What’s Going on at the Department of Homeland Security?
We discuss how Homeland Security is responding to critics who say it's not tough enough on immigration.
U.S. Secretary of Homeland Security Markwayne Mullin speaks during a news conference in the Eisenhower Executive Office Building on July 17, 2026 in Washington, DC. Mullin held the news conference to discuss election security ahead of the midterms. (Anna Moneymaker/Getty Images)
Airdate: Wednesday, August 12, 2026 at 10 AM
The Trump administration’s push to execute the largest deportation campaign in U.S. history is unfolding in “a fog of fake numbers and statistical subterfuge.” That’s according to The Atlantic’s Nick Miroff, who covers immigration and the Department of Homeland Security. We talk to Miroff about the political pressures shaping the deportation push, the unintended consequences of blue state backlash to ICE detention facilities and how Homeland Security secretary Markwayne Mullin is responding to attacks from far-right critics who say he’s not aggressive enough on immigration.
Guests:
- Nick Miroff, staff writer covering immigration, the Department of Homeland Security and the U.S.-Mexico border, The Atlantic