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Trump Expanding Third-Country Removals of Asylum Seekers in California

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People detained are seen behind fences at the Desert View Annex at the private prison company GEO Group Adelanto ICE Processing Center detention facility in Adelanto, California on July 10, 2025. (Patrick T. Fallon/AFP via Getty Images)

Airdate: Friday, September 19 at 10 AM

The current Trump administration has deported roughly 8,000 people to places most have never even visited, in a process known as third-country removal. Critics say this violates U.S. law, depriving people seeking asylum of their due process rights. We hear from a Russian whistleblower and asylum seeker who was en route to California when he was deported… to Costa Rica. Plus, we’ll hear from lawyers who are seeing the Trump administration expand third-country removals for asylum seekers within California.

German’s story is featured in a new episode of the Snap Judgment podcast, produced by John Fecile and José Cayasso. Listen here to the full episode, called “The Pencil Factory.”

Guests:

José "Caya" Cayasso, co-founder of the tech startup Slidebean; YouTuber and journalist who first reported German's story

German, Russian whistleblower who was deported to Costa Rica after attempting to seek asylum in the United States

Dr. Yael Schacher, immigration law historian and director for the Americas and Europe, Refugees International

Nicole Gorney, immigration attorney, Vidas Legal

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