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This year we asked her what were the really big stories she covered in 2018.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Here are some highlights from our talk, in Christina's own words. The following has been edited for length and clarity.\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Big Digital Health: It's a Thing\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It was a really big year in digital health, particularly where large tech companies are concerned: Apple, Amazon, Google, Microsoft, Samsung...\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"pullquote alignright\">'As [big] tech companies attempt to become trillion-dollar or greater businesses, they need something more than just their core competencies. And you can't ignore health care; it's just too big.'\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>John Doerr, the venture capitalist who is a big health investor, recounted at the Forbes Healthcare Summit how internet companies in the '90s aimed to disrupt the advertising space, which back then was based mostly on television advertising. Those companies thought they could do a better job because there was really no way at that time to measure and track the performance of ads in real time. So they took on this industry, which is now worth about $75 billion in the U.S.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>By comparison the health care opportunity is $3.5 trillion in America alone. As these tech companies attempt to become trillion-dollar or greater businesses, they need something more than just their core competencies. And you can't ignore health care; it's just too big.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Here Comes Amazon ...\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Amazon’s \u003ca href=\"https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/28/amazon-to-acquire-online-pharmacy-pillpack.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">acquisition\u003c/a> of online pharmacy PillPack in June was a very big story. The announcement really marked them as a player, and the market response -- billions of dollars were knocked off some of these pharmacy stocks -- showed how much of a threat Amazon could be. It's also a very good deal for PillPack and probably showed the digital health community that those sorts of exits are possible.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_437838\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 589px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-437838\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/futureofyou/wp-content/uploads/sites/13/2017/12/chrissyfarrphoto1.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"589\" height=\"428\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/13/2017/12/chrissyfarrphoto1.png 589w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/13/2017/12/chrissyfarrphoto1-160x116.png 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/13/2017/12/chrissyfarrphoto1-240x174.png 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/13/2017/12/chrissyfarrphoto1-375x272.png 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/13/2017/12/chrissyfarrphoto1-520x378.png 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 589px) 100vw, 589px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">CNBC's Chrissy Farr. \u003ccite>(CNBC)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Around the same time, Amazon also \u003ca href=\"https://www.cnbc.com/2018/12/14/amazon-explored-medical-diagnostics-was-in-talks-to-buy-confer-health.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">looked at Confer Health\u003c/a>, a company in the at-home medical diagnostic space. 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This year we asked her what were the really big stories she covered in 2018.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Here are some highlights from our talk, in Christina's own words. The following has been edited for length and clarity.\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Big Digital Health: It's a Thing\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It was a really big year in digital health, particularly where large tech companies are concerned: Apple, Amazon, Google, Microsoft, Samsung...\u003c/p>\n\u003caside class=\"pullquote alignright\">'As [big] tech companies attempt to become trillion-dollar or greater businesses, they need something more than just their core competencies. And you can't ignore health care; it's just too big.'\u003c/aside>\n\u003cp>John Doerr, the venture capitalist who is a big health investor, recounted at the Forbes Healthcare Summit how internet companies in the '90s aimed to disrupt the advertising space, which back then was based mostly on television advertising. Those companies thought they could do a better job because there was really no way at that time to measure and track the performance of ads in real time. So they took on this industry, which is now worth about $75 billion in the U.S.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>By comparison the health care opportunity is $3.5 trillion in America alone. As these tech companies attempt to become trillion-dollar or greater businesses, they need something more than just their core competencies. And you can't ignore health care; it's just too big.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Here Comes Amazon ...\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Amazon’s \u003ca href=\"https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/28/amazon-to-acquire-online-pharmacy-pillpack.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">acquisition\u003c/a> of online pharmacy PillPack in June was a very big story. 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