When John Banvard, 100, met Gerard "Jerry" Nadeau, 72, in 1993, neither of them had been openly gay.
"When we met, we were sort of in the closet, and I'd never had a real relationship. Now, we've been together almost 25 years," Jerry tells John during a StoryCorps interview.
"What would it have been like if you didn't meet me?" Jerry asks John.
"I would have continued being lonely," John says. "I'd been absolutely lost."
Both are veterans, having served in World War II (John) and Vietnam (Jerry), and when they moved into the veterans home together in the Southern California city of Chula Vista in 2010, Jerry says people there wondered what their relationship was.