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Floral, juicy, and spicy, it’s a unique rosé to explore and enjoy all year long.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Episode Transcript\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"106\" data-end=\"701\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"106\" data-end=\"125\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> American soul food in San Francisco…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"106\" data-end=\"701\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"167\" data-end=\"196\">Leslie Griffin Robertson:\u003c/strong> They call you, and you just have to come.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"106\" data-end=\"701\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"241\" data-end=\"260\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> …Bohemian brunch with a view in Tiburon.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"106\" data-end=\"701\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"306\" data-end=\"325\">George Andrews:\u003c/strong> You feel like you’ve left the spa and you’re on vacation.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"383\" data-end=\"386\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"386\" data-end=\"405\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> …and farm-to-table fare in Oakland.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"443\" data-end=\"446\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"446\" data-end=\"459\">Sarah Oh:\u003c/strong> It is truly seasonal.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"481\" data-end=\"484\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"484\" data-end=\"503\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Just ahead on \u003cem data-start=\"518\" data-end=\"544\">Check, Please! Bay Area.\u003c/em> Seems to me like you should be eating that with your hands.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"604\" data-end=\"607\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"607\" data-end=\"626\">George Andrews:\u003c/strong> I haven’t tried yet.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"647\" data-end=\"650\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"650\" data-end=\"669\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> [Laughs] No, no, no. [Laughs]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"703\" data-end=\"990\">Hi, I’m Leslie Sbrocco. Welcome to \u003cem data-start=\"738\" data-end=\"764\">Check, Please! Bay Area,\u003c/em> the show where Bay Area residents review and talk about their favorite restaurants. Now, we have three guests, and each one recommends one of their favorite spots, and the other two go check them out to see what they think.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"992\" data-end=\"1576\">Joining me at the \u003cem data-start=\"1010\" data-end=\"1026\">Check, Please!\u003c/em> table today are program manager \u003cstrong data-start=\"1059\" data-end=\"1071\">Sarah Oh\u003c/strong>, business communications advisor \u003cstrong data-start=\"1105\" data-end=\"1133\">Leslie Griffin Robertson\u003c/strong>, and marketing strategist \u003cstrong data-start=\"1160\" data-end=\"1178\">George Andrews\u003c/strong>. Welcome, everyone. Are you excited to be here?\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"1226\" data-end=\"1229\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"1229\" data-end=\"1248\">George Andrews:\u003c/strong> So happy to be here.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"1269\" data-end=\"1272\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"1272\" data-end=\"1301\">Leslie Griffin Robertson:\u003c/strong> You bet. Yeah. Very excited.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"1330\" data-end=\"1333\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"1333\" data-end=\"1352\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Leslie is letting the good times roll with her pick. It’s a soul food spot featuring a rotating menu of Southern-style gumbo with a California twist. Located in San Francisco’s Bayview neighborhood, it’s \u003cstrong data-start=\"1557\" data-end=\"1573\">Gumbo Social\u003c/strong>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1578\" data-end=\"1595\">[music playing]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1597\" data-end=\"1760\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1597\" data-end=\"1605\">Man:\u003c/strong> I don’t think I’ve ever had gumbo like this before.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"1657\" data-end=\"1660\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"1660\" data-end=\"1670\">Woman:\u003c/strong> It is so good. My eyes are rolling to the back of my head. Oh!\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"1733\" data-end=\"1736\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"1736\" data-end=\"1749\">Woman #2:\u003c/strong> So good.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1762\" data-end=\"1779\">[music playing]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1781\" data-end=\"2122\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1781\" data-end=\"1798\">Dontaye Ball:\u003c/strong> I firmly believe that gumbo should be America’s national dish. It is a dish that really encompasses multiple cultures. You have the African, you have the Cajun and Creole. There’s a lot of French influence, a touch of Spanish as well. So you have multiple cultures kind of binding together to create this incredible dish.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2124\" data-end=\"2456\">We’re here at 5176 3rd Street out in Bayview. I wanted to use Gumbo Social as an opportunity to bring folks to this neighborhood, to see a different part of San Francisco that they normally don’t see. It’s a place where I’m from. It’s a place that I think deserves to have light shined on it in regards from a culinary standpoint.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2458\" data-end=\"3187\">I’m heavily opinionated when it comes to gumbo. There’s some dos and don’ts. I firmly believe that a gumbo should always have okra in it.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2595\" data-end=\"2598\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"2598\" data-end=\"2611\">Woman #3:\u003c/strong> Got the chicken in there, the okra. Like, the long pieces, not the chunks.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2686\" data-end=\"2689\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"2689\" data-end=\"2706\">Dontaye Ball:\u003c/strong> Sausage in there for sure.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2733\" data-end=\"2736\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"2736\" data-end=\"2749\">Woman #4:\u003c/strong> This is amazing.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2766\" data-end=\"2769\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"2769\" data-end=\"2786\">Dontaye Ball:\u003c/strong> We like to try to hit it middle of the road from the spice standpoint. We want to be able to tickle the palate a little bit but not be too spicy.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2932\" data-end=\"2935\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"2935\" data-end=\"2948\">Woman #5:\u003c/strong> Out of 10, what do you score it? 10 out of 10?\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2995\" data-end=\"2998\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"2998\" data-end=\"3015\">Dontaye Ball:\u003c/strong> If you don’t want Mr. Gumbo to come to your house, please don’t put corn in your gumbo. It is against the law. Penal code 779825. I’ll come arrest you. Citizen’s arrest.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3189\" data-end=\"3575\">One of the things we love to do at Gumbo Social is host a great party. And so we are bringing in folks to do a gumbo tasting.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3314\" data-end=\"3317\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"3317\" data-end=\"3330\">Woman #6:\u003c/strong> I’m here to eat.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3347\" data-end=\"3350\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"3350\" data-end=\"3363\">Woman #7:\u003c/strong> We have a pork gumbo with fried chicharrón on top.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3414\" data-end=\"3417\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"3417\" data-end=\"3434\">Dontaye Ball:\u003c/strong> The new one, the gumbo z’herbes.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3467\" data-end=\"3470\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"3470\" data-end=\"3478\">Man:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3484\" data-end=\"3487\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"3487\" data-end=\"3504\">Dontaye Ball:\u003c/strong> And then folks actually get to vote on what their favorite gumbo is.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3577\" data-end=\"4069\">My mom, she’s the person that really taught me how to cook. She’s always kind of coming through, spot-checking the gumbo, making sure that the seasonings are on par.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3742\" data-end=\"3745\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"3745\" data-end=\"3758\">Woman #3:\u003c/strong> Now, this is gumbo.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3778\" data-end=\"3781\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"3781\" data-end=\"3798\">Dontaye Ball:\u003c/strong> And then just helping me push the boundaries of the food. One of the things that we focus on is being really versatile. So we do events, catering. Farmers markets are like a really great home base for us.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"4003\" data-end=\"4006\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"4006\" data-end=\"4017\">Man #2:\u003c/strong> Oh, yeah, so much.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"4036\" data-end=\"4039\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"4039\" data-end=\"4056\">Dontaye Ball:\u003c/strong> Thank you.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4071\" data-end=\"4189\">One of my favorite pieces is people who haven’t had gumbo in a long time, taste it, and then it’s kind of that look.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4191\" data-end=\"4208\">[music playing]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4210\" data-end=\"4493\">And then when they go back in… And usually the pinkie’s out when they’re going in, and so then you know you got something.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"4334\" data-end=\"4337\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"4337\" data-end=\"4348\">Man #3:\u003c/strong> Mmm! Oh! Mm.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"4361\" data-end=\"4364\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"4364\" data-end=\"4381\">Dontaye Ball:\u003c/strong> My goal is to get a bowl of gumbo in every household in America. That’s my goal.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"4462\" data-end=\"4465\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"4465\" data-end=\"4478\">Woman #8:\u003c/strong> Get into it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4495\" data-end=\"6610\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4495\" data-end=\"4514\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> So, now, Leslie, gumbo is pretty specific. Are you a gumbo lover because of traveling? Or just that you love the flavor?\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"4635\" data-end=\"4638\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"4638\" data-end=\"4667\">Leslie Griffin Robertson:\u003c/strong> I love the flavors, I love spice, I love things that, at their very best, take a couple days to really come into themselves. I get the classic gumbo—chicken and sausage and the holy trinity, which is celery, onion, and bell pepper, that just makes it this incredibly dense, rich bed of flavor.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"4961\" data-end=\"4964\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"4964\" data-end=\"4983\">George Andrews:\u003c/strong> The gumbo was so fantastic. Savory and rich and herbaceous. A lot of thyme in there. Very generous on the chicken and the sliced sausage. The only thing I was missing was a little bit more okra, but I would have it any day of the week.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"5219\" data-end=\"5222\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"5222\" data-end=\"5241\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Now, are you an okra lover?\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"5269\" data-end=\"5272\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"5272\" data-end=\"5285\">Sarah Oh:\u003c/strong> I’m an okra lover. I didn’t have that thought though, when I had the gumbo. But I also loved it. It’s just spicy enough. And I loved the classic presentation of the rice. It was just, you know, like, very elegant, but no fuss. A mound of rice in the middle. I got the small and wished I had gotten a large.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"5592\" data-end=\"5595\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"5595\" data-end=\"5624\">Leslie Griffin Robertson:\u003c/strong> They sell it in a quart size, and you can take it home. And I will say it freezes beautifully as well. Like, if you can’t get to Gumbo Social for your gumbo, you can actually pack it up and have it later.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"5829\" data-end=\"5832\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"5832\" data-end=\"5851\">George Andrews:\u003c/strong> I wish it came in gallons.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"5878\" data-end=\"5881\" />[ Laughter ]\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"5893\" data-end=\"5896\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"5896\" data-end=\"5915\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> It was that good.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"5933\" data-end=\"5936\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"5936\" data-end=\"5955\">George Andrews:\u003c/strong> It really was.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"5970\" data-end=\"5973\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"5973\" data-end=\"6002\">Leslie Griffin Robertson:\u003c/strong> It really is. I usually get the shrimp po’boy on the side. That is just scrumptious. Very generous serving of shrimp. Delicious sauce. Comes on a nice soft roll. I’m a dunker, so kind of the perfect dunking situation with the gumbo. That may be heresy to some, I don’t know, but I think it’s delicious.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"6305\" data-end=\"6308\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"6308\" data-end=\"6321\">Sarah Oh:\u003c/strong> I had to get the hoecake…\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"6349\" data-end=\"6352\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"6352\" data-end=\"6371\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Oh, okay.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"6381\" data-end=\"6384\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"6384\" data-end=\"6397\">Sarah Oh:\u003c/strong> …which was delicious to eat with the gumbo. I love anything that’s corn-based. It was a nice texture contrast. Usually I get a side like that and think I’ll just have a bite of it. I finished the whole thing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"60\" data-end=\"414\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"60\" data-end=\"79\">George Andrews:\u003c/strong> I had the vegan greens, which are both vegan and gluten-free, and it’s a really beautiful braise of kale, pinto beans and chickpeas, kidney beans, so you get a lot of different textures, as well as a lot of the spices that they have in the gumbo. But I wish it came in as large of a bowl as the gumbo. I could eat that all the time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"416\" data-end=\"3253\">So every once in a while I get an email from Gumbo Social. And this one was the “siren song of the dirty fries,” which is something that’s, I gather, not always on the menu. And, oh, my goodness, you guys, they’re really good fries smothered in a cheese situation that is more than just cheese. I think maybe the configuration of it is a little bit secret. And despite having consumed a bowl of gumbo, an entire shrimp po’boy, then out come the dirty fries, and my husband and I went at those too.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"913\" data-end=\"916\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"916\" data-end=\"935\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> You didn’t happen to be there for that hat trick, did you?\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"994\" data-end=\"997\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"997\" data-end=\"1016\">George Andrews:\u003c/strong> No, no. I missed that.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"1039\" data-end=\"1042\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"1042\" data-end=\"1055\">Sarah Oh:\u003c/strong> What makes them siren fries? Is there something spicy?\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"1110\" data-end=\"1113\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"1113\" data-end=\"1142\">Leslie Griffin Robertson:\u003c/strong> Just that they call you and you just have to come.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"1193\" data-end=\"1196\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"1196\" data-end=\"1209\">Sarah Oh:\u003c/strong> Oh, I see.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"1220\" data-end=\"1223\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"1223\" data-end=\"1242\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> The siren song.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"1258\" data-end=\"1261\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"1261\" data-end=\"1290\">Leslie Griffin Robertson:\u003c/strong> The way they were described in the email was like, “Come to me…”\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"1357\" data-end=\"1360\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"1360\" data-end=\"1379\">George Andrews:\u003c/strong> Pull you down into the ocean.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"1409\" data-end=\"1412\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"1412\" data-end=\"1441\">Leslie Griffin Robertson:\u003c/strong> Yeah, exactly. And my husband and I agreed that they were worth the drive.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"1516\" data-end=\"1519\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"1519\" data-end=\"1538\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And did you have any dessert?\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"1568\" data-end=\"1571\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"1571\" data-end=\"1590\">George Andrews:\u003c/strong> I did take home a slice of lemon pound cake that was delicious.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"1654\" data-end=\"1657\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"1657\" data-end=\"1676\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Okay, you looked at me so funny. You looked at me like, “I did it. Yes, I did it.”\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"1759\" data-end=\"1762\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"1762\" data-end=\"1781\">George Andrews:\u003c/strong> I did. I did. And it had a really delicious, intense lemon flavor. You know, great icing, not too sweet, but beautifully soft pound cake.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"1919\" data-end=\"1922\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"1922\" data-end=\"1951\">Leslie Griffin Robertson:\u003c/strong> I have not ever had the pound cake, but I must put in a word on the untraditional dessert of the Brussels sprouts, which are crispy fried with some apple. Oh! These things are phenomenal. If you’re a Brussels sprouts for dessert kind of person, which I’m really not.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2218\" data-end=\"2221\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"2221\" data-end=\"2240\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> I can’t tell you that I know a lot of those people.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2292\" data-end=\"2295\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"2295\" data-end=\"2324\">Leslie Griffin Robertson:\u003c/strong> Yeah. Me neither, so… But they are highly recommended. Absolutely delicious.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2403\" data-end=\"2406\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"2406\" data-end=\"2425\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And this is a casual place, right?\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2460\" data-end=\"2463\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"2463\" data-end=\"2482\">George Andrews:\u003c/strong> Yeah, very casual, very comfortable. They had good music on.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2543\" data-end=\"2546\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"2546\" data-end=\"2559\">Sarah Oh:\u003c/strong> Great art on the walls too. There’s some really nice iconic pictures of jazz artists and historic figures.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2666\" data-end=\"2669\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"2669\" data-end=\"2688\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> So did you get good value out of this place?\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2733\" data-end=\"2736\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"2736\" data-end=\"2749\">Sarah Oh:\u003c/strong> Absolutely. Talk about a substantial, hearty, satisfying meal that is not going to impact your wallet.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2852\" data-end=\"2855\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"2855\" data-end=\"2874\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And you’re gonna go back, George, and bring home more?\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2929\" data-end=\"2932\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"2932\" data-end=\"2951\">George Andrews:\u003c/strong> I’m definitely going to hit up the farmers market. We’ll see, if I’m in the neighborhood again, though, I’m going to swing by.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3078\" data-end=\"3081\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"3081\" data-end=\"3100\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Well, if you would like to try \u003cstrong data-start=\"3132\" data-end=\"3148\">Gumbo Social\u003c/strong>, it’s located on 3rd Street in San Francisco. The average tab per person without drinks is around $30.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3255\" data-end=\"3521\">George’s favorite brunch spot is all about location, location, location. He spent many a Sunday there, sipping Pimm’s cups, lounging on the patio, and soaking up the stellar bay views. Commanding a prime spot on the docks of Tiburon, it’s \u003cstrong data-start=\"3494\" data-end=\"3518\">The Bungalow Kitchen\u003c/strong>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3523\" data-end=\"3540\">[music playing]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3542\" data-end=\"3770\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3542\" data-end=\"3562\">Daniela Vergara:\u003c/strong> \u003cem data-start=\"3563\" data-end=\"3585\">The Bungalow Kitchen\u003c/em> by Michael Mina. We want to feel like a clubhouse, you know. We want the community to come over, relax with us, indulge in our coastal Californian cuisine and wonderful sips as well.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3772\" data-end=\"3789\">[music playing]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3791\" data-end=\"4077\">Our brunch menu—it’s a two-course prix fixe. You have about 10 options for your appetizers and an equal amount for your entrées.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3919\" data-end=\"3922\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"3922\" data-end=\"3932\">Woman:\u003c/strong> Mmm!\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3937\" data-end=\"3940\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"3940\" data-end=\"3960\">Daniela Vergara:\u003c/strong> We have an open-fire grill. It’s oak wood that we feed throughout the night to provide that flavor for our steaks.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4079\" data-end=\"4096\">[music playing]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4098\" data-end=\"5057\">We have an array of seafood. We have tuna, sea bass, branzino. We fly in fish from Japan. Our sushi chef, \u003cstrong data-start=\"4204\" data-end=\"4217\">Chef Yama\u003c/strong>, will call up the market in Japan and see whatever he can get as fresh as possible and arrive here overnight.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"4327\" data-end=\"4330\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"4330\" data-end=\"4344\">Chef Yama:\u003c/strong> This rice I buy from Japan.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"4372\" data-end=\"4375\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"4375\" data-end=\"4395\">Daniela Vergara:\u003c/strong> The lobster pot pie—it’s a Chef Mina classic dish. A domed puff pastry, and then we’ll crack it tableside, place it on the bottom, and then rebuild that lobster for you. We love to do that extra detail. We want to show the guests what we do in the kitchen, to say this is what we have and why and the story. And it’s just beautiful. I would say like a symphony just all working together, you know.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"4793\" data-end=\"4796\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"4796\" data-end=\"4809\">Woman #2:\u003c/strong> Thank you so much.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"4828\" data-end=\"4831\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"4831\" data-end=\"4851\">Daniela Vergara:\u003c/strong> We want to create an atmosphere where it’s relaxing. You get to just take a quick ferry ride over. You get the breeze. You get the warmth. As foggy as it may be in the city, it’s always sunny in Tiburon.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5059\" data-end=\"5076\">[music playing]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5078\" data-end=\"7015\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5078\" data-end=\"5097\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Now, George, you live in the city, right?\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"5139\" data-end=\"5142\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"5142\" data-end=\"5161\">George Andrews:\u003c/strong> I do.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"5167\" data-end=\"5170\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"5170\" data-end=\"5189\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> So you get foggy sometimes. And is that why you’re so drawn to sunny Tiburon?\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"5267\" data-end=\"5270\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"5270\" data-end=\"5289\">George Andrews:\u003c/strong> It is. It’s like a mini vacation. And that’s why it’s so perfect to go for brunch. You get into your nice big easy chair on the patio. Everything’s kind of these muted coral and sage-green tones, and you just feel like you’ve left the spa and you’re on vacation and you’re ready to have a cocktail. So the first thing that I get is the Pimm’s cup. I love something that’s herby, I love something that’s gin-based, a little fizzy. But, you know, it’s not too potent, so you can have a few and you’re just relaxing. It’s like time has stopped.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"5831\" data-end=\"5834\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"5834\" data-end=\"5853\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> All right, you got Pimm’s cup in hand. What is the first thing you order?\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"5927\" data-end=\"5930\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"5930\" data-end=\"5949\">George Andrews:\u003c/strong> The first thing that I like to order is the butter lettuce and hearts of palm salad. And it comes out on this big long tray, and you think that they’re bringing it to someone else because there’s no way this whole salad could be just for me. It’s velvety soft butter lettuce cups with Brokaw avocado and the sliced hearts of palm, segmented grapefruit. And it’s just a wonderfully refreshing way to start the meal.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"6364\" data-end=\"6367\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"6367\" data-end=\"6380\">Sarah Oh:\u003c/strong> The theme for me at \u003cem data-start=\"6401\" data-end=\"6419\">Bungalow Kitchen\u003c/em> was, like, tableside appeal. Everything kind of has this big tableside presence.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"6500\" data-end=\"6503\" data-is-only-node=\"\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"6503\" data-end=\"6511\">Man:\u003c/strong> So we have the sashimi-grade ahi tuna. There’s a quail egg on top with Maldon sea salt.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"6599\" data-end=\"6602\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"6602\" data-end=\"6615\">Sarah Oh:\u003c/strong> I had the tuna tartare to start, which is visually so lovely. You have the Asian pear, the mint. There’s some sesame oil on there, chilies, all kind of chopped in these cute little piles, and someone tosses it tableside for you.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"6844\" data-end=\"6847\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"6847\" data-end=\"6866\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> It’s breakfast and a show.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"6893\" data-end=\"6896\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"6896\" data-end=\"6909\">Sarah Oh:\u003c/strong> Breakfast and a show.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"6931\" data-end=\"6934\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"6934\" data-end=\"6942\">Man:\u003c/strong> And there we go. Michael Mina’s tuna tartare.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"6988\" data-end=\"6991\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"6991\" data-end=\"7002\">Man #2:\u003c/strong> Wonderful.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"60\" data-end=\"2403\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"60\" data-end=\"73\">Sarah Oh:\u003c/strong> We went for the lobster pot pie, which, talk about tableside appeal. It comes out in this beautiful copper pot with, you know, the flaky crust on top. The meat was succulent and tasty. The vegetables, what I really appreciated, tasted really fresh, like someone had just chopped them and threw them in. A slight acidity would have been nice to kind of cut through the cream, but the sauce was really rich, and it was delicious.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"501\" data-end=\"504\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"504\" data-end=\"523\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Right.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"530\" data-end=\"533\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"533\" data-end=\"562\">Leslie Griffin Robertson:\u003c/strong> I had regrets. I saw it. We had already ordered, and then I saw that roll by, and I was like, “Oh, I missed a bet there,” because it truly is stunningly beautiful. But we did order an assortment of appetizers, and our very favorite one was the jalapeño lobster toasts.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"831\" data-end=\"834\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"834\" data-end=\"853\">George Andrews:\u003c/strong> Yes!\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"858\" data-end=\"861\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"861\" data-end=\"890\">Leslie Griffin Robertson:\u003c/strong> They’re like a rolled-up kind of thing. It wasn’t—I was expecting something flat on a toast. And this was so much more than that and so much better than that. Delightful little bit of spice, but not too much. Just a really nice blend and balance.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"1137\" data-end=\"1140\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"1140\" data-end=\"1159\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And what other dishes did you have?\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"1195\" data-end=\"1198\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"1198\" data-end=\"1227\">Leslie Griffin Robertson:\u003c/strong> I had the eggs Benedict with smoked salmon. Also phenomenal. Standard Benedict in terms of English muffin and an egg and hollandaise sauce, but the addition of the smoked salmon was really nice, and it came with a side of crispy potatoes that was really, really good. I also had the steak frites, which is sort of a basic dish—it’s meat and potatoes—but this one was really special. It was a filet prepared absolutely perfectly, nice béarnaise sauce, good fries. We were super happy with it.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"1719\" data-end=\"1722\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"1722\" data-end=\"1741\" data-is-only-node=\"\">George Andrews:\u003c/strong> Where I’ve been going lately is to the oak-grilled branzino. And this one comes out in a beautiful stoneware bowl on a bed of orzo with little baby French lentils and a nice piquant tomato sauce. Beautiful piece of branzino with the skin still a little bit crisp. But the flesh is so tender, and it’s just a dream to eat.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2063\" data-end=\"2066\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"2066\" data-end=\"2079\">Sarah Oh:\u003c/strong> I think the tip is, at \u003cem data-start=\"2103\" data-end=\"2121\">Bungalow Kitchen\u003c/em>, you go and you see everything…\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2155\" data-end=\"2158\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"2158\" data-end=\"2187\">Leslie Griffin Robertson:\u003c/strong> Watch.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2194\" data-end=\"2197\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"2197\" data-end=\"2210\">Sarah Oh:\u003c/strong> …and then you go back a second time.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2249\" data-end=\"2252\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"2252\" data-end=\"2281\">Leslie Griffin Robertson:\u003c/strong> Yep.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2286\" data-end=\"2289\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"2289\" data-end=\"2302\">Sarah Oh:\u003c/strong> We were tempted by the oyster shooters that were going by. Again, just, you know, couldn’t say no.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2405\" data-end=\"2419\">[ Laughter ]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2421\" data-end=\"3926\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2421\" data-end=\"2429\">Man:\u003c/strong> This is the way you do it.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2456\" data-end=\"2459\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"2459\" data-end=\"2469\">Woman:\u003c/strong> Here we go. Whoo-hoo!\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2491\" data-end=\"2494\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"2494\" data-end=\"2507\">Sarah Oh:\u003c/strong> And I also had a Bloody Mary, which had the same kind of tomato-based spicy mix that was part of the oyster shooter.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2624\" data-end=\"2627\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"2627\" data-end=\"2656\">Leslie Griffin Robertson:\u003c/strong> For dessert, I had the espresso martini, which I cannot recommend highly enough. Not groundbreaking in terms of, like, special adds or anything, but in terms of just being well prepared, it was perfection.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2862\" data-end=\"2865\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"2865\" data-end=\"2878\">Sarah Oh:\u003c/strong> We shared the crème brûlée French toast, which to me tasted like dessert. It had the sweet inside. I didn’t get too much of a crème brûlée taste, but it was still delicious and sweet and decadent.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3075\" data-end=\"3078\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"3078\" data-end=\"3097\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Absolutely. And how was the service?\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3134\" data-end=\"3137\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"3137\" data-end=\"3166\">Leslie Griffin Robertson:\u003c/strong> Oh, the service was spectacular. Like you said, there was so much tableside action, and they were very, very attentive. Overall, yeah, no complaints on service at all. It was really nicely done.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3361\" data-end=\"3364\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"3364\" data-end=\"3383\" data-is-only-node=\"\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And you feel like this is an every Sunday if you can.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3437\" data-end=\"3440\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"3440\" data-end=\"3459\">George Andrews:\u003c/strong> I don’t go every Sunday, although I wish that I could. But, yeah, it’s more of like a once-a-month place, you know, when the fog is getting me down. Just hop across the bridge and, you know, have—\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3656\" data-end=\"3659\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"3659\" data-end=\"3678\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And treat yourself.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3698\" data-end=\"3701\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"3701\" data-end=\"3720\">George Andrews:\u003c/strong> Yeah, exactly.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3735\" data-end=\"3738\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"3738\" data-end=\"3757\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> All right, well, if you would like to try \u003cem data-start=\"3800\" data-end=\"3822\">The Bungalow Kitchen\u003c/em>, it’s located on Main Street in Tiburon. And the average tab per person without drinks is around $85.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3928\" data-end=\"4182\">Sarah’s favorite restaurant offers the quintessential farm-to-table experience. The new California menu is driven by whatever’s in season at the owner’s orchards along with other family-owned farms. Located on Oakland’s Piedmont Avenue, it’s \u003cstrong data-start=\"4170\" data-end=\"4179\">Pomet\u003c/strong>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4184\" data-end=\"4201\">[music playing]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4203\" data-end=\"4642\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4203\" data-end=\"4221\">Aomboon Deasy:\u003c/strong> Ooh, now the best part, right? \u003cem data-start=\"4253\" data-end=\"4260\">Pomet\u003c/em> is the truest definition of “farm to table” when it comes to California cuisine. We have access to some of the best ingredients and some of the most unique flavors. A mustard-miso dressing, avocados. I chose the name \u003cem data-start=\"4478\" data-end=\"4485\">Pomet\u003c/em> because it means “orchard” in an old Roman language. It also stems from the word of “pomology,” which is the study and cultivation of fruit and nut trees.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4644\" data-end=\"4943\">\u003cem data-start=\"4644\" data-end=\"4651\">Pomet\u003c/em> wouldn’t be here without Kalayada and James, my parents, who started the farm \u003cstrong data-start=\"4730\" data-end=\"4748\">K & J Orchards\u003c/strong>. Nectarines, peaches, cherries, persimmons. We get to highlight what we grow, and the kitchen gets to make even look more beautiful and taste even better than it really is in its natural form.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4945\" data-end=\"4962\">[music playing]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4964\" data-end=\"5566\">The recipes are a culmination of the collaboration of the chef and the kitchen staff and also a little bit of input from me.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"5088\" data-end=\"5091\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"5091\" data-end=\"5099\">Man:\u003c/strong> That is really good.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"5120\" data-end=\"5123\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"5123\" data-end=\"5141\">Aomboon Deasy:\u003c/strong> They are dishes that we remember growing up and what our parents, our grandparents used to cook, and influence of many cultures. The wood that we use to cook our food here is mostly all fruit wood. It brings a little bit of that earthiness to each of the plates. In a way, the tree is the full circle of life. We harvest the fruit from it, but then we use the rest of it to cook the food that is presented here at \u003cem data-start=\"5556\" data-end=\"5563\">Pomet\u003c/em>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5568\" data-end=\"5965\">One of the things that \u003cem data-start=\"5591\" data-end=\"5598\">Pomet\u003c/em> does is, at the end of every meal, they get to have a piece of fruit for them to experience like they just walked out of the orchard, to really enjoy as their last bite as they say thank you, and we say thank you to them. Their faces when they try something and they’re just mesmerized by the taste and the freshness, brings me joy that we’ve done something right.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5967\" data-end=\"7197\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5967\" data-end=\"5986\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> All right, Sarah, you know the phrase “farm to table” is so overused sometimes. I mean, this really is about “orchard to table.” This is—this is the real deal, isn’t it?\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"6156\" data-end=\"6159\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"6159\" data-end=\"6172\">Sarah Oh:\u003c/strong> That’s the perfect way of putting it. When you look at the menu, what I love is they’ll feature the farms’ names. It’s something that it’s so subtle and small, but it makes a really big difference, I think, in understanding where the food comes from.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"6423\" data-end=\"6426\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"6426\" data-end=\"6445\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Right.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"6452\" data-end=\"6455\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"6455\" data-end=\"6468\">Sarah Oh:\u003c/strong> I always start with the seasonal salad. It is truly seasonal, so it will depend on what fruits are in season. I went recently and I got little gem lettuces with peaches and just a really light vinaigrette that doesn’t overpower the fruit or the lettuces. You can even taste the sweetness of the lettuce.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"6772\" data-end=\"6775\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"6775\" data-end=\"6794\">George Andrews:\u003c/strong> One of the best starters for me was the smashed cucumber salad. And the cucumbers are all sliced in different directions, so you kind of get some different textures, right? But they’re sitting in a soy milk and sesame broth, and it’s all topped with a little bit of chili oil. So I found myself trying to push away my tablemates.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"60\" data-end=\"5624\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"60\" data-end=\"79\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Right. You wanted all the cucumbers to yourself.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"128\" data-end=\"131\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"131\" data-end=\"150\">George Andrews:\u003c/strong> I wanted them all to myself.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"179\" data-end=\"182\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"182\" data-end=\"201\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> [Laughs] What about you, Leslie?\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"234\" data-end=\"237\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"237\" data-end=\"266\">Leslie Griffin Robertson:\u003c/strong> Every single dish had something jazzy going on, something creative. We had the crispy duck appetizer, and we also had the duck entrée. They were very different. The appetizer was kind of a little explosion of flavors. We’re kind of like knocking each other’s forks out of the way.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"547\" data-end=\"550\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"550\" data-end=\"569\">George Andrews:\u003c/strong> So we also had the duck appetizer, and it came with a crisp little apple slaw with it. And the sauce was kind of a pomegranate and gochujang glaze. Perfectly crisp. My tablemate, other than myself and my fiancé, we were a table of three, is vegetarian, so I only had to share with one person.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"862\" data-end=\"865\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"865\" data-end=\"884\" data-is-only-node=\"\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> [Laughs]\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"893\" data-end=\"896\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"896\" data-end=\"915\">George Andrews:\u003c/strong> I was also celebrating my birthday, so I got to—yeah, I got to kind of pull rank a little bit on whichever dishes that I wanted.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"1044\" data-end=\"1047\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"1047\" data-end=\"1060\">Sarah Oh:\u003c/strong> This is more of a side, but I love the rolls. They have these Hokkaido milk bread rolls. So fluffy. Nice chew when you bite into it, and they serve it with this incredible butter. One time I finished the rolls and there was leftover butter and I asked the waiter if I could take the butter home, it was that good. It’s very velvety and soft, and it’s great for sopping up those juices from the cucumber or other appetizers.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"1484\" data-end=\"1487\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"1487\" data-end=\"1506\">George Andrews:\u003c/strong> We did all starters, actually. So the graffiti eggplant dip was so fabulous. Perfectly smooth, rich, kind of like a mapo mushroom sauce over the top. A wonderful cool cream on the side, with semolina crackers, which were kind of like big, long shards—looked like broken glass but made of semolina. We were all fighting over that one as well.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"1848\" data-end=\"1851\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"1851\" data-end=\"1870\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> It was a battle, I’m guessing.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"1901\" data-end=\"1904\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"1904\" data-end=\"1933\">Leslie Griffin Robertson:\u003c/strong> It was perfection. Every single mouthful at that place, no matter what we ordered, was outstanding.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2033\" data-end=\"2036\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"2036\" data-end=\"2049\">Sarah Oh:\u003c/strong> I forget that it’s a starter. I always think of it as a main dish because it’s so substantial.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2144\" data-end=\"2147\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"2147\" data-end=\"2166\">George Andrews:\u003c/strong> Another star for us was the ugly mushroom pasta. A symphony of mushrooms, right?\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2247\" data-end=\"2250\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"2250\" data-end=\"2269\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And all ugly.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2283\" data-end=\"2286\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"2286\" data-end=\"2305\">George Andrews:\u003c/strong> Well, I would say beautiful.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2334\" data-end=\"2337\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"2337\" data-end=\"2366\">Leslie Griffin Robertson:\u003c/strong> I thought it was gorgeous.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2393\" data-end=\"2396\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"2396\" data-end=\"2409\">Sarah Oh:\u003c/strong> Spectacular, though.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2430\" data-end=\"2433\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"2433\" data-end=\"2452\">George Andrews:\u003c/strong> And then once you kind of get below that layer, you have these little boats of pasta filled with even more mushroom, luscious sauce underneath. It was a dream.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2612\" data-end=\"2615\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"2615\" data-end=\"2634\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And you’re agreeing.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2655\" data-end=\"2658\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"2658\" data-end=\"2687\">Leslie Griffin Robertson:\u003c/strong> Oh, that’s the dish that we will all really remember. Everything at this restaurant was special. We had the char siu pork, which was a pork belly. This was like silk in your mouth. Beautifully prepared, just the right amount of seasoning. And it came with this hot mustard, which was delicious.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2982\" data-end=\"2985\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"2985\" data-end=\"2998\">Sarah Oh:\u003c/strong> I had the salmon. The quality of the salmon is such that all they did was serve it with some stuffed peppers. Very fresh. And it was the perfect pairing of the sweetness from the peppers with the richness of the salmon. It’s super simple. Just a great fish.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3256\" data-end=\"3259\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"3259\" data-end=\"3278\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And did you have anything to drink with this?\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3324\" data-end=\"3327\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"3327\" data-end=\"3356\">Leslie Griffin Robertson:\u003c/strong> I did. I had the housemade rose geranium spritzer. I’m an herb gardener myself, so of course I had to try that, and it was perfect. Like, it did not beat you over the head with rose geranium. You had to get about halfway down the spritzer in order to get it, and then when it came, it was perfect.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3654\" data-end=\"3657\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"3657\" data-end=\"3676\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Oh, nice.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3686\" data-end=\"3689\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"3689\" data-end=\"3708\">George Andrews:\u003c/strong> Well, is it too early to talk about dessert?\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3753\" data-end=\"3756\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"3756\" data-end=\"3775\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> It never is. No.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3792\" data-end=\"3795\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"3795\" data-end=\"3814\">George Andrews:\u003c/strong> So if I could go back and just have this peach galette, I would, and it would be the only thing that I ate for the rest of my life. It was a beautiful mound of peaches sitting atop a very crisp puff pastry, beautifully pleated and studded with sanding sugar so it’s extra crisp. And then sitting above is the real star that makes it so amazing, which is the yogurt semifreddo. And as soon as it touches your tongue, it just dissipates completely. But it brought it all together.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"4293\" data-end=\"4296\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"4296\" data-end=\"4325\">Leslie Griffin Robertson:\u003c/strong> I got to put in a word for the chocolate cake. OMG, you guys. Texturally, it was almost like a cross between pudding and cake. Not too sweet. Perfectly balanced flavors and five people going at it with spoons.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"4535\" data-end=\"4538\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"4538\" data-end=\"4557\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> [Laughs]\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"4566\" data-end=\"4569\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"4569\" data-end=\"4598\">Leslie Griffin Robertson:\u003c/strong> It was—it was perfection.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"4624\" data-end=\"4627\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"4627\" data-end=\"4646\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And how was the service?\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"4671\" data-end=\"4674\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"4674\" data-end=\"4703\">Leslie Griffin Robertson:\u003c/strong> I can’t put enough emphasis on the service, too, because we were seated in the outside area. So there were heaters to make sure we were warm. And sometimes when you get seated outside, you get forgotten a little bit. Not at this place.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"4939\" data-end=\"4942\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"4942\" data-end=\"4961\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> You agree?\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"4972\" data-end=\"4975\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"4975\" data-end=\"4994\">George Andrews:\u003c/strong> I definitely agree. I will be going back next year for my birthday and probably a number of times in between.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"5104\" data-end=\"5107\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"5107\" data-end=\"5136\">Leslie Griffin Robertson:\u003c/strong> My husband has already asked for it for his birthday next year, so it’s gonna become a birthday destination.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"5245\" data-end=\"5248\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"5248\" data-end=\"5267\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> I would say that’s high praise.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"5299\" data-end=\"5302\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"5302\" data-end=\"5315\">Sarah Oh:\u003c/strong> That’s what I like. You know, you can go for your birthday, you can go for a Friday night meal. And it really does have this cozy, inviting feel.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"5461\" data-end=\"5464\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"5464\" data-end=\"5483\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> If you would like to try \u003cem data-start=\"5509\" data-end=\"5516\">Pomet\u003c/em>, it’s located on Piedmont Avenue in Oakland, and the average tab per person without drinks is around $80.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5626\" data-end=\"5744\">Looking for more Bay Area bites you’ve just got to try? Check out \u003cem data-start=\"5692\" data-end=\"5710\">Cecilia Tries It\u003c/em> online at kqed.org/checkplease.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5746\" data-end=\"6081\">I have to thank my incredibly articulate guests on this week’s show—Sarah Oh, who appreciates the farm-driven menu at \u003cem data-start=\"5864\" data-end=\"5871\">Pomet\u003c/em> in Oakland; Leslie Griffin Robertson, who always takes home an extra bowl from \u003cem data-start=\"5951\" data-end=\"5965\">Gumbo Social\u003c/em> in San Francisco; and George Andrews, who pairs his branzino with bay views at \u003cem data-start=\"6045\" data-end=\"6067\">The Bungalow Kitchen\u003c/em> in Tiburon.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"6083\" data-end=\"6427\">Join us next time when three more guests will recommend their favorite spots right here on \u003cem data-start=\"6174\" data-end=\"6200\">Check, Please! Bay Area.\u003c/em> I’m Leslie Sbrocco, and I’ll see you then. Cheers. And cheers to you.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"6270\" data-end=\"6273\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"6273\" data-end=\"6286\">Sarah Oh:\u003c/strong> Cheers.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"6294\" data-end=\"6297\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"6297\" data-end=\"6316\">George Andrews:\u003c/strong> Cheers.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"6324\" data-end=\"6327\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"6327\" data-end=\"6346\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Did you have fun?\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"6364\" data-end=\"6367\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"6367\" data-end=\"6386\">George Andrews:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"6392\" data-end=\"6395\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"6395\" data-end=\"6414\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Yes! 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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>\u003cem>Check, Please! Bay Area, \u003c/em>season 19, episode 16, airs Thursday, February 27, at 7:30 pm, on KQED 9. See other \u003ca href=\"http://www.kqed.org/tv/programs/index.jsp?pgmid=14084\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">television airtimes\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">First up, \u003cstrong>Gumbo Social\u003c/strong> in San Francisco’s Bayview neighborhood brings soulful comfort food to the table with a creative, ever-changing menu. Crowd favorites include dirty gumbo fries loaded with bold flavors, their hearty and satisfying gumbo ya-ya, and scrumptious shrimp po’boys served with tangy coleslaw. Next, \u003cstrong>The Bungalow Kitchen\u003c/strong> by Michael Mina in Tiburon pairs stunning waterfront views with a decadent menu including oak-grilled branzino, lobster pot pie, and crème brûlée French toast that seamlessly complements the restaurant’s charming ambiance. Finally, \u003cstrong>Pomet\u003c/strong>, located on Oakland’s Piedmont Avenue, offers a fresh take on farm-to-table dining with inventive, seasonal offerings. Diners are treated to Hokkaido milk bread rolls, “ugly” mushroom-filled pasta, and char siu short rib, each dish crafted with local ingredients and infused with global inspiration.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_23389\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-23389 size-medium\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/02/1916_Guests-800x533.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/02/1916_Guests-800x533.png 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/02/1916_Guests-1020x680.png 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/02/1916_Guests-160x107.png 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/02/1916_Guests-768x512.png 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/02/1916_Guests-1536x1024.png 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/02/1916_Guests.png 1620w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\" />\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Host Leslie Sbrocco joins guests Sarah Oh, George Andrews and Leslie Griffin Robertson from KQED in San Francisco.\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Get Restaurant Information:\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.gumbosocial.com/\">\u003cstrong>Gumbo Social\u003c/strong> (San Francisco)\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://bungalowkitchen.com/\">\u003cstrong>The Bungalow Kitchen\u003c/strong> (Tiburon)\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://pomet-oakland.com/\">\u003cstrong>Pomet\u003c/strong> (Oakland)\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_20123\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-20123\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2019/04/Leslie-Headshot-Smokey-copy-800x540.jpg\" alt=\"Host Leslie Sbrocco sipping wine\" width=\"800\" height=\"540\" />\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Host Leslie Sbrocco sipping wine \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Leslie Sbrocco)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>My name is Leslie Sbrocco, and I’m the \u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/checkplease/host-biography/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">host\u003c/a> of \u003cem>Check, Please! Bay Area\u003c/em>. Each week, I’ll share my tasting notes about the wine, beer and spirits the guests and I drank on set during the taping of the show.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-23390\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/02/1916_Wines-800x1067.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"1067\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/02/1916_Wines-800x1067.png 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/02/1916_Wines-1020x1360.png 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/02/1916_Wines-160x213.png 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/02/1916_Wines-768x1024.png 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/02/1916_Wines-1152x1536.png 1152w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/02/1916_Wines.png 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\" />\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://villamariawines.com/\">\u003cspan style=\"color: #339966;\">\u003cb>Villa Maria 2024 “Private Bin” Sauvignon Blanc\u003c/b>\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cbr />\n\u003cem>Marlborough, New Zealand $17\u003c/em>\u003cbr />\nCrack open a bottle of this youthfully fresh white and be transported to New Zealand. Sauvignon blanc — the famed grape of the island nation — expresses juicy citrus notes with a touch of herbal complexity in Villa Maria’s delicious “Private Bin” wine. Blending grapes from myriad vineyards stretching across the South Island’s Marlborough region, the “Private Bin” sauvignon blanc comes alive in the glass, overflowing with aromas of passionfruit and lemon-lime brightness. A vinous ray of sunshine.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://pasqua.it/wines/11-minutes/\">\u003cspan style=\"color: #339966;\">\u003cstrong>Pasqua 2023 “11 Minutes” Rosé\u003c/strong>\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cbr />\n\u003cem>Trevenezie IGT, Italy $20\u003cbr />\n\u003c/em>Pasqua Wines is a historic Veronese family producer founded in 1925. This beautiful bottle of pink looks modern and classic with packaging that will impress. Yet it’s the wine inside that is the real star. Made with grapes such as corvina, syrah, and carmenère, the name “11 Minutes” refers to the amount of time the skins of the red grapes have in contact with the pressed grape juice, which imbues a hint of pink color and red berry character. Floral, juicy, and spicy, it’s a unique rosé to explore and enjoy all year long.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Episode Transcript\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"106\" data-end=\"701\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"106\" data-end=\"125\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> American soul food in San Francisco…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"106\" data-end=\"701\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"167\" data-end=\"196\">Leslie Griffin Robertson:\u003c/strong> They call you, and you just have to come.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"106\" data-end=\"701\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"241\" data-end=\"260\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> …Bohemian brunch with a view in Tiburon.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"106\" data-end=\"701\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"306\" data-end=\"325\">George Andrews:\u003c/strong> You feel like you’ve left the spa and you’re on vacation.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"383\" data-end=\"386\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"386\" data-end=\"405\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> …and farm-to-table fare in Oakland.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"443\" data-end=\"446\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"446\" data-end=\"459\">Sarah Oh:\u003c/strong> It is truly seasonal.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"481\" data-end=\"484\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"484\" data-end=\"503\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Just ahead on \u003cem data-start=\"518\" data-end=\"544\">Check, Please! Bay Area.\u003c/em> Seems to me like you should be eating that with your hands.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"604\" data-end=\"607\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"607\" data-end=\"626\">George Andrews:\u003c/strong> I haven’t tried yet.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"647\" data-end=\"650\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"650\" data-end=\"669\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> [Laughs] No, no, no. [Laughs]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"703\" data-end=\"990\">Hi, I’m Leslie Sbrocco. Welcome to \u003cem data-start=\"738\" data-end=\"764\">Check, Please! Bay Area,\u003c/em> the show where Bay Area residents review and talk about their favorite restaurants. Now, we have three guests, and each one recommends one of their favorite spots, and the other two go check them out to see what they think.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"992\" data-end=\"1576\">Joining me at the \u003cem data-start=\"1010\" data-end=\"1026\">Check, Please!\u003c/em> table today are program manager \u003cstrong data-start=\"1059\" data-end=\"1071\">Sarah Oh\u003c/strong>, business communications advisor \u003cstrong data-start=\"1105\" data-end=\"1133\">Leslie Griffin Robertson\u003c/strong>, and marketing strategist \u003cstrong data-start=\"1160\" data-end=\"1178\">George Andrews\u003c/strong>. Welcome, everyone. Are you excited to be here?\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"1226\" data-end=\"1229\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"1229\" data-end=\"1248\">George Andrews:\u003c/strong> So happy to be here.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"1269\" data-end=\"1272\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"1272\" data-end=\"1301\">Leslie Griffin Robertson:\u003c/strong> You bet. Yeah. Very excited.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"1330\" data-end=\"1333\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"1333\" data-end=\"1352\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Leslie is letting the good times roll with her pick. It’s a soul food spot featuring a rotating menu of Southern-style gumbo with a California twist. Located in San Francisco’s Bayview neighborhood, it’s \u003cstrong data-start=\"1557\" data-end=\"1573\">Gumbo Social\u003c/strong>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1578\" data-end=\"1595\">[music playing]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1597\" data-end=\"1760\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1597\" data-end=\"1605\">Man:\u003c/strong> I don’t think I’ve ever had gumbo like this before.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"1657\" data-end=\"1660\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"1660\" data-end=\"1670\">Woman:\u003c/strong> It is so good. My eyes are rolling to the back of my head. Oh!\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"1733\" data-end=\"1736\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"1736\" data-end=\"1749\">Woman #2:\u003c/strong> So good.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1762\" data-end=\"1779\">[music playing]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1781\" data-end=\"2122\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1781\" data-end=\"1798\">Dontaye Ball:\u003c/strong> I firmly believe that gumbo should be America’s national dish. It is a dish that really encompasses multiple cultures. You have the African, you have the Cajun and Creole. There’s a lot of French influence, a touch of Spanish as well. So you have multiple cultures kind of binding together to create this incredible dish.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2124\" data-end=\"2456\">We’re here at 5176 3rd Street out in Bayview. I wanted to use Gumbo Social as an opportunity to bring folks to this neighborhood, to see a different part of San Francisco that they normally don’t see. It’s a place where I’m from. It’s a place that I think deserves to have light shined on it in regards from a culinary standpoint.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2458\" data-end=\"3187\">I’m heavily opinionated when it comes to gumbo. There’s some dos and don’ts. I firmly believe that a gumbo should always have okra in it.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2595\" data-end=\"2598\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"2598\" data-end=\"2611\">Woman #3:\u003c/strong> Got the chicken in there, the okra. Like, the long pieces, not the chunks.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2686\" data-end=\"2689\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"2689\" data-end=\"2706\">Dontaye Ball:\u003c/strong> Sausage in there for sure.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2733\" data-end=\"2736\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"2736\" data-end=\"2749\">Woman #4:\u003c/strong> This is amazing.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2766\" data-end=\"2769\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"2769\" data-end=\"2786\">Dontaye Ball:\u003c/strong> We like to try to hit it middle of the road from the spice standpoint. We want to be able to tickle the palate a little bit but not be too spicy.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2932\" data-end=\"2935\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"2935\" data-end=\"2948\">Woman #5:\u003c/strong> Out of 10, what do you score it? 10 out of 10?\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2995\" data-end=\"2998\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"2998\" data-end=\"3015\">Dontaye Ball:\u003c/strong> If you don’t want Mr. Gumbo to come to your house, please don’t put corn in your gumbo. It is against the law. Penal code 779825. I’ll come arrest you. Citizen’s arrest.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3189\" data-end=\"3575\">One of the things we love to do at Gumbo Social is host a great party. And so we are bringing in folks to do a gumbo tasting.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3314\" data-end=\"3317\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"3317\" data-end=\"3330\">Woman #6:\u003c/strong> I’m here to eat.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3347\" data-end=\"3350\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"3350\" data-end=\"3363\">Woman #7:\u003c/strong> We have a pork gumbo with fried chicharrón on top.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3414\" data-end=\"3417\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"3417\" data-end=\"3434\">Dontaye Ball:\u003c/strong> The new one, the gumbo z’herbes.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3467\" data-end=\"3470\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"3470\" data-end=\"3478\">Man:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3484\" data-end=\"3487\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"3487\" data-end=\"3504\">Dontaye Ball:\u003c/strong> And then folks actually get to vote on what their favorite gumbo is.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3577\" data-end=\"4069\">My mom, she’s the person that really taught me how to cook. She’s always kind of coming through, spot-checking the gumbo, making sure that the seasonings are on par.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3742\" data-end=\"3745\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"3745\" data-end=\"3758\">Woman #3:\u003c/strong> Now, this is gumbo.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3778\" data-end=\"3781\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"3781\" data-end=\"3798\">Dontaye Ball:\u003c/strong> And then just helping me push the boundaries of the food. One of the things that we focus on is being really versatile. So we do events, catering. Farmers markets are like a really great home base for us.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"4003\" data-end=\"4006\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"4006\" data-end=\"4017\">Man #2:\u003c/strong> Oh, yeah, so much.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"4036\" data-end=\"4039\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"4039\" data-end=\"4056\">Dontaye Ball:\u003c/strong> Thank you.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4071\" data-end=\"4189\">One of my favorite pieces is people who haven’t had gumbo in a long time, taste it, and then it’s kind of that look.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4191\" data-end=\"4208\">[music playing]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4210\" data-end=\"4493\">And then when they go back in… And usually the pinkie’s out when they’re going in, and so then you know you got something.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"4334\" data-end=\"4337\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"4337\" data-end=\"4348\">Man #3:\u003c/strong> Mmm! Oh! Mm.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"4361\" data-end=\"4364\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"4364\" data-end=\"4381\">Dontaye Ball:\u003c/strong> My goal is to get a bowl of gumbo in every household in America. That’s my goal.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"4462\" data-end=\"4465\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"4465\" data-end=\"4478\">Woman #8:\u003c/strong> Get into it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4495\" data-end=\"6610\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4495\" data-end=\"4514\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> So, now, Leslie, gumbo is pretty specific. Are you a gumbo lover because of traveling? Or just that you love the flavor?\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"4635\" data-end=\"4638\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"4638\" data-end=\"4667\">Leslie Griffin Robertson:\u003c/strong> I love the flavors, I love spice, I love things that, at their very best, take a couple days to really come into themselves. I get the classic gumbo—chicken and sausage and the holy trinity, which is celery, onion, and bell pepper, that just makes it this incredibly dense, rich bed of flavor.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"4961\" data-end=\"4964\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"4964\" data-end=\"4983\">George Andrews:\u003c/strong> The gumbo was so fantastic. Savory and rich and herbaceous. A lot of thyme in there. Very generous on the chicken and the sliced sausage. The only thing I was missing was a little bit more okra, but I would have it any day of the week.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"5219\" data-end=\"5222\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"5222\" data-end=\"5241\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Now, are you an okra lover?\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"5269\" data-end=\"5272\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"5272\" data-end=\"5285\">Sarah Oh:\u003c/strong> I’m an okra lover. I didn’t have that thought though, when I had the gumbo. But I also loved it. It’s just spicy enough. And I loved the classic presentation of the rice. It was just, you know, like, very elegant, but no fuss. A mound of rice in the middle. I got the small and wished I had gotten a large.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"5592\" data-end=\"5595\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"5595\" data-end=\"5624\">Leslie Griffin Robertson:\u003c/strong> They sell it in a quart size, and you can take it home. And I will say it freezes beautifully as well. Like, if you can’t get to Gumbo Social for your gumbo, you can actually pack it up and have it later.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"5829\" data-end=\"5832\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"5832\" data-end=\"5851\">George Andrews:\u003c/strong> I wish it came in gallons.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"5878\" data-end=\"5881\" />[ Laughter ]\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"5893\" data-end=\"5896\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"5896\" data-end=\"5915\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> It was that good.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"5933\" data-end=\"5936\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"5936\" data-end=\"5955\">George Andrews:\u003c/strong> It really was.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"5970\" data-end=\"5973\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"5973\" data-end=\"6002\">Leslie Griffin Robertson:\u003c/strong> It really is. I usually get the shrimp po’boy on the side. That is just scrumptious. Very generous serving of shrimp. Delicious sauce. Comes on a nice soft roll. I’m a dunker, so kind of the perfect dunking situation with the gumbo. That may be heresy to some, I don’t know, but I think it’s delicious.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"6305\" data-end=\"6308\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"6308\" data-end=\"6321\">Sarah Oh:\u003c/strong> I had to get the hoecake…\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"6349\" data-end=\"6352\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"6352\" data-end=\"6371\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Oh, okay.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"6381\" data-end=\"6384\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"6384\" data-end=\"6397\">Sarah Oh:\u003c/strong> …which was delicious to eat with the gumbo. I love anything that’s corn-based. It was a nice texture contrast. Usually I get a side like that and think I’ll just have a bite of it. I finished the whole thing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"60\" data-end=\"414\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"60\" data-end=\"79\">George Andrews:\u003c/strong> I had the vegan greens, which are both vegan and gluten-free, and it’s a really beautiful braise of kale, pinto beans and chickpeas, kidney beans, so you get a lot of different textures, as well as a lot of the spices that they have in the gumbo. But I wish it came in as large of a bowl as the gumbo. I could eat that all the time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"416\" data-end=\"3253\">So every once in a while I get an email from Gumbo Social. And this one was the “siren song of the dirty fries,” which is something that’s, I gather, not always on the menu. And, oh, my goodness, you guys, they’re really good fries smothered in a cheese situation that is more than just cheese. I think maybe the configuration of it is a little bit secret. And despite having consumed a bowl of gumbo, an entire shrimp po’boy, then out come the dirty fries, and my husband and I went at those too.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"913\" data-end=\"916\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"916\" data-end=\"935\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> You didn’t happen to be there for that hat trick, did you?\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"994\" data-end=\"997\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"997\" data-end=\"1016\">George Andrews:\u003c/strong> No, no. I missed that.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"1039\" data-end=\"1042\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"1042\" data-end=\"1055\">Sarah Oh:\u003c/strong> What makes them siren fries? Is there something spicy?\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"1110\" data-end=\"1113\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"1113\" data-end=\"1142\">Leslie Griffin Robertson:\u003c/strong> Just that they call you and you just have to come.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"1193\" data-end=\"1196\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"1196\" data-end=\"1209\">Sarah Oh:\u003c/strong> Oh, I see.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"1220\" data-end=\"1223\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"1223\" data-end=\"1242\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> The siren song.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"1258\" data-end=\"1261\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"1261\" data-end=\"1290\">Leslie Griffin Robertson:\u003c/strong> The way they were described in the email was like, “Come to me…”\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"1357\" data-end=\"1360\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"1360\" data-end=\"1379\">George Andrews:\u003c/strong> Pull you down into the ocean.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"1409\" data-end=\"1412\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"1412\" data-end=\"1441\">Leslie Griffin Robertson:\u003c/strong> Yeah, exactly. And my husband and I agreed that they were worth the drive.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"1516\" data-end=\"1519\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"1519\" data-end=\"1538\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And did you have any dessert?\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"1568\" data-end=\"1571\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"1571\" data-end=\"1590\">George Andrews:\u003c/strong> I did take home a slice of lemon pound cake that was delicious.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"1654\" data-end=\"1657\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"1657\" data-end=\"1676\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Okay, you looked at me so funny. You looked at me like, “I did it. Yes, I did it.”\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"1759\" data-end=\"1762\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"1762\" data-end=\"1781\">George Andrews:\u003c/strong> I did. I did. And it had a really delicious, intense lemon flavor. You know, great icing, not too sweet, but beautifully soft pound cake.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"1919\" data-end=\"1922\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"1922\" data-end=\"1951\">Leslie Griffin Robertson:\u003c/strong> I have not ever had the pound cake, but I must put in a word on the untraditional dessert of the Brussels sprouts, which are crispy fried with some apple. Oh! These things are phenomenal. If you’re a Brussels sprouts for dessert kind of person, which I’m really not.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2218\" data-end=\"2221\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"2221\" data-end=\"2240\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> I can’t tell you that I know a lot of those people.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2292\" data-end=\"2295\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"2295\" data-end=\"2324\">Leslie Griffin Robertson:\u003c/strong> Yeah. Me neither, so… But they are highly recommended. Absolutely delicious.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2403\" data-end=\"2406\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"2406\" data-end=\"2425\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And this is a casual place, right?\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2460\" data-end=\"2463\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"2463\" data-end=\"2482\">George Andrews:\u003c/strong> Yeah, very casual, very comfortable. They had good music on.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2543\" data-end=\"2546\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"2546\" data-end=\"2559\">Sarah Oh:\u003c/strong> Great art on the walls too. There’s some really nice iconic pictures of jazz artists and historic figures.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2666\" data-end=\"2669\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"2669\" data-end=\"2688\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> So did you get good value out of this place?\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2733\" data-end=\"2736\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"2736\" data-end=\"2749\">Sarah Oh:\u003c/strong> Absolutely. Talk about a substantial, hearty, satisfying meal that is not going to impact your wallet.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2852\" data-end=\"2855\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"2855\" data-end=\"2874\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And you’re gonna go back, George, and bring home more?\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2929\" data-end=\"2932\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"2932\" data-end=\"2951\">George Andrews:\u003c/strong> I’m definitely going to hit up the farmers market. We’ll see, if I’m in the neighborhood again, though, I’m going to swing by.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3078\" data-end=\"3081\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"3081\" data-end=\"3100\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Well, if you would like to try \u003cstrong data-start=\"3132\" data-end=\"3148\">Gumbo Social\u003c/strong>, it’s located on 3rd Street in San Francisco. The average tab per person without drinks is around $30.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3255\" data-end=\"3521\">George’s favorite brunch spot is all about location, location, location. He spent many a Sunday there, sipping Pimm’s cups, lounging on the patio, and soaking up the stellar bay views. Commanding a prime spot on the docks of Tiburon, it’s \u003cstrong data-start=\"3494\" data-end=\"3518\">The Bungalow Kitchen\u003c/strong>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3523\" data-end=\"3540\">[music playing]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3542\" data-end=\"3770\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3542\" data-end=\"3562\">Daniela Vergara:\u003c/strong> \u003cem data-start=\"3563\" data-end=\"3585\">The Bungalow Kitchen\u003c/em> by Michael Mina. We want to feel like a clubhouse, you know. We want the community to come over, relax with us, indulge in our coastal Californian cuisine and wonderful sips as well.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3772\" data-end=\"3789\">[music playing]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3791\" data-end=\"4077\">Our brunch menu—it’s a two-course prix fixe. You have about 10 options for your appetizers and an equal amount for your entrées.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3919\" data-end=\"3922\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"3922\" data-end=\"3932\">Woman:\u003c/strong> Mmm!\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3937\" data-end=\"3940\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"3940\" data-end=\"3960\">Daniela Vergara:\u003c/strong> We have an open-fire grill. It’s oak wood that we feed throughout the night to provide that flavor for our steaks.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4079\" data-end=\"4096\">[music playing]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4098\" data-end=\"5057\">We have an array of seafood. We have tuna, sea bass, branzino. We fly in fish from Japan. Our sushi chef, \u003cstrong data-start=\"4204\" data-end=\"4217\">Chef Yama\u003c/strong>, will call up the market in Japan and see whatever he can get as fresh as possible and arrive here overnight.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"4327\" data-end=\"4330\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"4330\" data-end=\"4344\">Chef Yama:\u003c/strong> This rice I buy from Japan.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"4372\" data-end=\"4375\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"4375\" data-end=\"4395\">Daniela Vergara:\u003c/strong> The lobster pot pie—it’s a Chef Mina classic dish. A domed puff pastry, and then we’ll crack it tableside, place it on the bottom, and then rebuild that lobster for you. We love to do that extra detail. We want to show the guests what we do in the kitchen, to say this is what we have and why and the story. And it’s just beautiful. I would say like a symphony just all working together, you know.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"4793\" data-end=\"4796\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"4796\" data-end=\"4809\">Woman #2:\u003c/strong> Thank you so much.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"4828\" data-end=\"4831\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"4831\" data-end=\"4851\">Daniela Vergara:\u003c/strong> We want to create an atmosphere where it’s relaxing. You get to just take a quick ferry ride over. You get the breeze. You get the warmth. As foggy as it may be in the city, it’s always sunny in Tiburon.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5059\" data-end=\"5076\">[music playing]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5078\" data-end=\"7015\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5078\" data-end=\"5097\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Now, George, you live in the city, right?\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"5139\" data-end=\"5142\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"5142\" data-end=\"5161\">George Andrews:\u003c/strong> I do.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"5167\" data-end=\"5170\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"5170\" data-end=\"5189\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> So you get foggy sometimes. And is that why you’re so drawn to sunny Tiburon?\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"5267\" data-end=\"5270\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"5270\" data-end=\"5289\">George Andrews:\u003c/strong> It is. It’s like a mini vacation. And that’s why it’s so perfect to go for brunch. You get into your nice big easy chair on the patio. Everything’s kind of these muted coral and sage-green tones, and you just feel like you’ve left the spa and you’re on vacation and you’re ready to have a cocktail. So the first thing that I get is the Pimm’s cup. I love something that’s herby, I love something that’s gin-based, a little fizzy. But, you know, it’s not too potent, so you can have a few and you’re just relaxing. It’s like time has stopped.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"5831\" data-end=\"5834\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"5834\" data-end=\"5853\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> All right, you got Pimm’s cup in hand. What is the first thing you order?\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"5927\" data-end=\"5930\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"5930\" data-end=\"5949\">George Andrews:\u003c/strong> The first thing that I like to order is the butter lettuce and hearts of palm salad. And it comes out on this big long tray, and you think that they’re bringing it to someone else because there’s no way this whole salad could be just for me. It’s velvety soft butter lettuce cups with Brokaw avocado and the sliced hearts of palm, segmented grapefruit. And it’s just a wonderfully refreshing way to start the meal.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"6364\" data-end=\"6367\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"6367\" data-end=\"6380\">Sarah Oh:\u003c/strong> The theme for me at \u003cem data-start=\"6401\" data-end=\"6419\">Bungalow Kitchen\u003c/em> was, like, tableside appeal. Everything kind of has this big tableside presence.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"6500\" data-end=\"6503\" data-is-only-node=\"\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"6503\" data-end=\"6511\">Man:\u003c/strong> So we have the sashimi-grade ahi tuna. There’s a quail egg on top with Maldon sea salt.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"6599\" data-end=\"6602\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"6602\" data-end=\"6615\">Sarah Oh:\u003c/strong> I had the tuna tartare to start, which is visually so lovely. You have the Asian pear, the mint. There’s some sesame oil on there, chilies, all kind of chopped in these cute little piles, and someone tosses it tableside for you.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"6844\" data-end=\"6847\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"6847\" data-end=\"6866\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> It’s breakfast and a show.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"6893\" data-end=\"6896\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"6896\" data-end=\"6909\">Sarah Oh:\u003c/strong> Breakfast and a show.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"6931\" data-end=\"6934\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"6934\" data-end=\"6942\">Man:\u003c/strong> And there we go. Michael Mina’s tuna tartare.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"6988\" data-end=\"6991\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"6991\" data-end=\"7002\">Man #2:\u003c/strong> Wonderful.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"60\" data-end=\"2403\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"60\" data-end=\"73\">Sarah Oh:\u003c/strong> We went for the lobster pot pie, which, talk about tableside appeal. It comes out in this beautiful copper pot with, you know, the flaky crust on top. The meat was succulent and tasty. The vegetables, what I really appreciated, tasted really fresh, like someone had just chopped them and threw them in. A slight acidity would have been nice to kind of cut through the cream, but the sauce was really rich, and it was delicious.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"501\" data-end=\"504\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"504\" data-end=\"523\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Right.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"530\" data-end=\"533\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"533\" data-end=\"562\">Leslie Griffin Robertson:\u003c/strong> I had regrets. I saw it. We had already ordered, and then I saw that roll by, and I was like, “Oh, I missed a bet there,” because it truly is stunningly beautiful. But we did order an assortment of appetizers, and our very favorite one was the jalapeño lobster toasts.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"831\" data-end=\"834\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"834\" data-end=\"853\">George Andrews:\u003c/strong> Yes!\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"858\" data-end=\"861\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"861\" data-end=\"890\">Leslie Griffin Robertson:\u003c/strong> They’re like a rolled-up kind of thing. It wasn’t—I was expecting something flat on a toast. And this was so much more than that and so much better than that. Delightful little bit of spice, but not too much. Just a really nice blend and balance.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"1137\" data-end=\"1140\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"1140\" data-end=\"1159\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And what other dishes did you have?\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"1195\" data-end=\"1198\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"1198\" data-end=\"1227\">Leslie Griffin Robertson:\u003c/strong> I had the eggs Benedict with smoked salmon. Also phenomenal. Standard Benedict in terms of English muffin and an egg and hollandaise sauce, but the addition of the smoked salmon was really nice, and it came with a side of crispy potatoes that was really, really good. I also had the steak frites, which is sort of a basic dish—it’s meat and potatoes—but this one was really special. It was a filet prepared absolutely perfectly, nice béarnaise sauce, good fries. We were super happy with it.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"1719\" data-end=\"1722\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"1722\" data-end=\"1741\" data-is-only-node=\"\">George Andrews:\u003c/strong> Where I’ve been going lately is to the oak-grilled branzino. And this one comes out in a beautiful stoneware bowl on a bed of orzo with little baby French lentils and a nice piquant tomato sauce. Beautiful piece of branzino with the skin still a little bit crisp. But the flesh is so tender, and it’s just a dream to eat.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2063\" data-end=\"2066\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"2066\" data-end=\"2079\">Sarah Oh:\u003c/strong> I think the tip is, at \u003cem data-start=\"2103\" data-end=\"2121\">Bungalow Kitchen\u003c/em>, you go and you see everything…\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2155\" data-end=\"2158\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"2158\" data-end=\"2187\">Leslie Griffin Robertson:\u003c/strong> Watch.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2194\" data-end=\"2197\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"2197\" data-end=\"2210\">Sarah Oh:\u003c/strong> …and then you go back a second time.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2249\" data-end=\"2252\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"2252\" data-end=\"2281\">Leslie Griffin Robertson:\u003c/strong> Yep.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2286\" data-end=\"2289\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"2289\" data-end=\"2302\">Sarah Oh:\u003c/strong> We were tempted by the oyster shooters that were going by. Again, just, you know, couldn’t say no.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2405\" data-end=\"2419\">[ Laughter ]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2421\" data-end=\"3926\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2421\" data-end=\"2429\">Man:\u003c/strong> This is the way you do it.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2456\" data-end=\"2459\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"2459\" data-end=\"2469\">Woman:\u003c/strong> Here we go. Whoo-hoo!\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2491\" data-end=\"2494\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"2494\" data-end=\"2507\">Sarah Oh:\u003c/strong> And I also had a Bloody Mary, which had the same kind of tomato-based spicy mix that was part of the oyster shooter.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2624\" data-end=\"2627\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"2627\" data-end=\"2656\">Leslie Griffin Robertson:\u003c/strong> For dessert, I had the espresso martini, which I cannot recommend highly enough. Not groundbreaking in terms of, like, special adds or anything, but in terms of just being well prepared, it was perfection.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2862\" data-end=\"2865\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"2865\" data-end=\"2878\">Sarah Oh:\u003c/strong> We shared the crème brûlée French toast, which to me tasted like dessert. It had the sweet inside. I didn’t get too much of a crème brûlée taste, but it was still delicious and sweet and decadent.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3075\" data-end=\"3078\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"3078\" data-end=\"3097\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Absolutely. And how was the service?\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3134\" data-end=\"3137\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"3137\" data-end=\"3166\">Leslie Griffin Robertson:\u003c/strong> Oh, the service was spectacular. Like you said, there was so much tableside action, and they were very, very attentive. Overall, yeah, no complaints on service at all. It was really nicely done.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3361\" data-end=\"3364\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"3364\" data-end=\"3383\" data-is-only-node=\"\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And you feel like this is an every Sunday if you can.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3437\" data-end=\"3440\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"3440\" data-end=\"3459\">George Andrews:\u003c/strong> I don’t go every Sunday, although I wish that I could. But, yeah, it’s more of like a once-a-month place, you know, when the fog is getting me down. Just hop across the bridge and, you know, have—\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3656\" data-end=\"3659\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"3659\" data-end=\"3678\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And treat yourself.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3698\" data-end=\"3701\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"3701\" data-end=\"3720\">George Andrews:\u003c/strong> Yeah, exactly.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"3735\" data-end=\"3738\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"3738\" data-end=\"3757\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> All right, well, if you would like to try \u003cem data-start=\"3800\" data-end=\"3822\">The Bungalow Kitchen\u003c/em>, it’s located on Main Street in Tiburon. And the average tab per person without drinks is around $85.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3928\" data-end=\"4182\">Sarah’s favorite restaurant offers the quintessential farm-to-table experience. The new California menu is driven by whatever’s in season at the owner’s orchards along with other family-owned farms. 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It also stems from the word of “pomology,” which is the study and cultivation of fruit and nut trees.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4644\" data-end=\"4943\">\u003cem data-start=\"4644\" data-end=\"4651\">Pomet\u003c/em> wouldn’t be here without Kalayada and James, my parents, who started the farm \u003cstrong data-start=\"4730\" data-end=\"4748\">K & J Orchards\u003c/strong>. Nectarines, peaches, cherries, persimmons. We get to highlight what we grow, and the kitchen gets to make even look more beautiful and taste even better than it really is in its natural form.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4945\" data-end=\"4962\">[music playing]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4964\" data-end=\"5566\">The recipes are a culmination of the collaboration of the chef and the kitchen staff and also a little bit of input from me.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"5088\" data-end=\"5091\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"5091\" data-end=\"5099\">Man:\u003c/strong> That is really good.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"5120\" data-end=\"5123\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"5123\" data-end=\"5141\">Aomboon Deasy:\u003c/strong> They are dishes that we remember growing up and what our parents, our grandparents used to cook, and influence of many cultures. The wood that we use to cook our food here is mostly all fruit wood. It brings a little bit of that earthiness to each of the plates. In a way, the tree is the full circle of life. We harvest the fruit from it, but then we use the rest of it to cook the food that is presented here at \u003cem data-start=\"5556\" data-end=\"5563\">Pomet\u003c/em>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5568\" data-end=\"5965\">One of the things that \u003cem data-start=\"5591\" data-end=\"5598\">Pomet\u003c/em> does is, at the end of every meal, they get to have a piece of fruit for them to experience like they just walked out of the orchard, to really enjoy as their last bite as they say thank you, and we say thank you to them. Their faces when they try something and they’re just mesmerized by the taste and the freshness, brings me joy that we’ve done something right.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5967\" data-end=\"7197\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5967\" data-end=\"5986\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> All right, Sarah, you know the phrase “farm to table” is so overused sometimes. I mean, this really is about “orchard to table.” This is—this is the real deal, isn’t it?\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"6156\" data-end=\"6159\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"6159\" data-end=\"6172\">Sarah Oh:\u003c/strong> That’s the perfect way of putting it. When you look at the menu, what I love is they’ll feature the farms’ names. It’s something that it’s so subtle and small, but it makes a really big difference, I think, in understanding where the food comes from.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"6423\" data-end=\"6426\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"6426\" data-end=\"6445\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Right.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"6452\" data-end=\"6455\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"6455\" data-end=\"6468\">Sarah Oh:\u003c/strong> I always start with the seasonal salad. It is truly seasonal, so it will depend on what fruits are in season. I went recently and I got little gem lettuces with peaches and just a really light vinaigrette that doesn’t overpower the fruit or the lettuces. You can even taste the sweetness of the lettuce.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"6772\" data-end=\"6775\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"6775\" data-end=\"6794\">George Andrews:\u003c/strong> One of the best starters for me was the smashed cucumber salad. And the cucumbers are all sliced in different directions, so you kind of get some different textures, right? But they’re sitting in a soy milk and sesame broth, and it’s all topped with a little bit of chili oil. So I found myself trying to push away my tablemates.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"60\" data-end=\"5624\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"60\" data-end=\"79\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Right. 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My tablemate, other than myself and my fiancé, we were a table of three, is vegetarian, so I only had to share with one person.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"862\" data-end=\"865\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"865\" data-end=\"884\" data-is-only-node=\"\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> [Laughs]\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"893\" data-end=\"896\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"896\" data-end=\"915\">George Andrews:\u003c/strong> I was also celebrating my birthday, so I got to—yeah, I got to kind of pull rank a little bit on whichever dishes that I wanted.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"1044\" data-end=\"1047\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"1047\" data-end=\"1060\">Sarah Oh:\u003c/strong> This is more of a side, but I love the rolls. They have these Hokkaido milk bread rolls. So fluffy. Nice chew when you bite into it, and they serve it with this incredible butter. One time I finished the rolls and there was leftover butter and I asked the waiter if I could take the butter home, it was that good. It’s very velvety and soft, and it’s great for sopping up those juices from the cucumber or other appetizers.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"1484\" data-end=\"1487\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"1487\" data-end=\"1506\">George Andrews:\u003c/strong> We did all starters, actually. So the graffiti eggplant dip was so fabulous. Perfectly smooth, rich, kind of like a mapo mushroom sauce over the top. A wonderful cool cream on the side, with semolina crackers, which were kind of like big, long shards—looked like broken glass but made of semolina. 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A symphony of mushrooms, right?\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2247\" data-end=\"2250\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"2250\" data-end=\"2269\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And all ugly.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2283\" data-end=\"2286\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"2286\" data-end=\"2305\">George Andrews:\u003c/strong> Well, I would say beautiful.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2334\" data-end=\"2337\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"2337\" data-end=\"2366\">Leslie Griffin Robertson:\u003c/strong> I thought it was gorgeous.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2393\" data-end=\"2396\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"2396\" data-end=\"2409\">Sarah Oh:\u003c/strong> Spectacular, though.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2430\" data-end=\"2433\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"2433\" data-end=\"2452\">George Andrews:\u003c/strong> And then once you kind of get below that layer, you have these little boats of pasta filled with even more mushroom, luscious sauce underneath. It was a dream.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2612\" data-end=\"2615\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"2615\" data-end=\"2634\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And you’re agreeing.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2655\" data-end=\"2658\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"2658\" data-end=\"2687\">Leslie Griffin Robertson:\u003c/strong> Oh, that’s the dish that we will all really remember. Everything at this restaurant was special. We had the char siu pork, which was a pork belly. This was like silk in your mouth. Beautifully prepared, just the right amount of seasoning. And it came with this hot mustard, which was delicious.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"2982\" data-end=\"2985\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"2985\" data-end=\"2998\">Sarah Oh:\u003c/strong> I had the salmon. The quality of the salmon is such that all they did was serve it with some stuffed peppers. Very fresh. And it was the perfect pairing of the sweetness from the peppers with the richness of the salmon. 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It was a beautiful mound of peaches sitting atop a very crisp puff pastry, beautifully pleated and studded with sanding sugar so it’s extra crisp. And then sitting above is the real star that makes it so amazing, which is the yogurt semifreddo. And as soon as it touches your tongue, it just dissipates completely. But it brought it all together.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"4293\" data-end=\"4296\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"4296\" data-end=\"4325\">Leslie Griffin Robertson:\u003c/strong> I got to put in a word for the chocolate cake. OMG, you guys. Texturally, it was almost like a cross between pudding and cake. Not too sweet. 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I will be going back next year for my birthday and probably a number of times in between.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"5104\" data-end=\"5107\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"5107\" data-end=\"5136\">Leslie Griffin Robertson:\u003c/strong> My husband has already asked for it for his birthday next year, so it’s gonna become a birthday destination.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"5245\" data-end=\"5248\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"5248\" data-end=\"5267\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> I would say that’s high praise.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"5299\" data-end=\"5302\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"5302\" data-end=\"5315\">Sarah Oh:\u003c/strong> That’s what I like. You know, you can go for your birthday, you can go for a Friday night meal. And it really does have this cozy, inviting feel.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"5461\" data-end=\"5464\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"5464\" data-end=\"5483\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> If you would like to try \u003cem data-start=\"5509\" data-end=\"5516\">Pomet\u003c/em>, it’s located on Piedmont Avenue in Oakland, and the average tab per person without drinks is around $80.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5626\" data-end=\"5744\">Looking for more Bay Area bites you’ve just got to try? Check out \u003cem data-start=\"5692\" data-end=\"5710\">Cecilia Tries It\u003c/em> online at kqed.org/checkplease.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5746\" data-end=\"6081\">I have to thank my incredibly articulate guests on this week’s show—Sarah Oh, who appreciates the farm-driven menu at \u003cem data-start=\"5864\" data-end=\"5871\">Pomet\u003c/em> in Oakland; Leslie Griffin Robertson, who always takes home an extra bowl from \u003cem data-start=\"5951\" data-end=\"5965\">Gumbo Social\u003c/em> in San Francisco; and George Andrews, who pairs his branzino with bay views at \u003cem data-start=\"6045\" data-end=\"6067\">The Bungalow Kitchen\u003c/em> in Tiburon.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"6083\" data-end=\"6427\">Join us next time when three more guests will recommend their favorite spots right here on \u003cem data-start=\"6174\" data-end=\"6200\">Check, Please! Bay Area.\u003c/em> I’m Leslie Sbrocco, and I’ll see you then. Cheers. And cheers to you.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"6270\" data-end=\"6273\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"6273\" data-end=\"6286\">Sarah Oh:\u003c/strong> Cheers.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"6294\" data-end=\"6297\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"6297\" data-end=\"6316\">George Andrews:\u003c/strong> Cheers.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"6324\" data-end=\"6327\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"6327\" data-end=\"6346\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Did you have fun?\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"6364\" data-end=\"6367\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"6367\" data-end=\"6386\">George Andrews:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003cbr />\n\u003cbr data-start=\"6392\" data-end=\"6395\" />\u003cstrong data-start=\"6395\" data-end=\"6414\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Yes! 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"content": "\u003cp>\u003cem>Check, Please! Bay Area, \u003c/em>season 19, episode 15, airs Thursday, February 20, at 7:30 pm, on KQED 9. See other \u003ca href=\"http://www.kqed.org/tv/programs/index.jsp?pgmid=14084\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">television airtimes\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">This week’s culinary adventure begins at \u003cstrong>Bhan Mae Vane\u003c/strong> in Alameda, a vibrant eatery specializing in bold, aromatic Laotian cuisine. Highlights include tangy, refreshing papaya salad, spicy and savory pad kee mao noodles, and perfectly crisped pork belly. Next, \u003cstrong>Emmy’s Spaghetti Shack\u003c/strong> in San Francisco’s Mission District combines a quirky, eclectic vibe with satisfying Italian-American comfort food. Guests enjoy their hearty five-layer Cadillac lasagna, spaghetti and meatballs, and their juicy, flavorful steak dinners served with red peppercorn jus and pesto spaghetti. Lastly, \u003cstrong>District\u003c/strong> in downtown Oakland brings an elegant yet approachable dining experience, offering expertly crafted shareable plates designed to pair with an artfully curated selection of wines and cocktails. From classic Margherita pizza and crispy arancini romano to tender lamb meatballs and elote topped with roasted chili crema and cotija cheese, District’s menu thrills both wine enthusiasts and food lovers alike.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_23378\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-23378\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/02/1915_Guests_03-800x533.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/02/1915_Guests_03-800x533.png 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/02/1915_Guests_03-1020x680.png 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/02/1915_Guests_03-160x107.png 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/02/1915_Guests_03-768x512.png 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/02/1915_Guests_03-1536x1024.png 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/02/1915_Guests_03.png 1620w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\" />\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Host Leslie Sbrocco joins guests Richard Hsu, Tonya Thomas and Jeff Hunt from KQED in San Francisco.\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Get Restaurant Information:\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.bhanmaevane.com/\">\u003cstrong>Bhan Mae Vane\u003c/strong> (Alameda)\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://sfspaghettishack.com/\">\u003cstrong>Emmy’s Spaghetti Shack\u003c/strong> (San Francisco)\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://districtoak.com/\">\u003cstrong>District\u003c/strong> (Oakland)\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_20123\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-20123\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2019/04/Leslie-Headshot-Smokey-copy-800x540.jpg\" alt=\"Host Leslie Sbrocco sipping wine\" width=\"800\" height=\"540\" />\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Host Leslie Sbrocco sipping wine \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Leslie Sbrocco)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>My name is Leslie Sbrocco, and I’m the \u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/checkplease/host-biography/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">host\u003c/a> of \u003cem>Check, Please! Bay Area\u003c/em>. Each week, I’ll share my tasting notes about the wine, beer and spirits the guests and I drank on set during the taping of the show.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-23379\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/02/1915_Wines-800x1067.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"1067\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/02/1915_Wines-800x1067.png 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/02/1915_Wines-1020x1360.png 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/02/1915_Wines-160x213.png 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/02/1915_Wines-768x1024.png 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/02/1915_Wines-1152x1536.png 1152w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/02/1915_Wines-1536x2048.png 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/02/1915_Wines-1920x2560.png 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\" />\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://www.cuvaison.com/wines/release/2023-estate-sauvignon-blanc-2023\">\u003cspan style=\"color: #339966;\">\u003cb>Cuvaison 2022 Sauvignon Blanc\u003c/b>\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cbr />\n\u003cem>Napa Valley, Los Carneros, California $28\u003c/em>\u003cbr />\nAs one of Napa Valley’s classic family producers, Cuvaison was founded in 1969 and has become not only a wine country destination but also a creator of benchmark wines. They are well known for elegant pinot noir and chardonnay. My pick for their superstar sipper, however, is sauvignon blanc. Made in a crisp, zesty style overflowing with lip-smacking citrus notes, this white has aromatic complexity from a touch of the grape semillon blended with the sauvignon blanc. A perfect complement to grilled fish dishes, feta-topped chicken and quinoa, and brunch casseroles. Stock up for year-round enjoyment.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://www.vineyardbrands.com/wine.aspx?pid=159&cid=49446&wid=1625\">\u003cspan style=\"color: #339966;\">\u003cstrong>Serena 2023 “MODE 0,0” Sauvignon Blanc\u003c/strong>\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cbr />\n\u003cem>Chile $15\u003c/em>\u003cbr />\nIf you’re looking for a nonalcoholic white that still captures the freshness and character of sauvignon blanc, look no further than this impressive bottling from Miguel Torres in Chile. Finding delicious wine without alcohol can be a challenge. This is one of the first examples I heartily recommend. Light lemon-lime aromas are followed by a bright mouthful of flavor. Enjoy with chips and salsa on a sunny day.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Episode Transcript\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp data-start=\"321\" data-end=\"386\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"321\" data-end=\"340\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Bold Laotian and Thai flavors in Alameda…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"388\" data-end=\"439\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"388\" data-end=\"402\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Hands on. I like to touch my food.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"441\" data-end=\"485\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"441\" data-end=\"459\">Michael Irish:\u003c/strong> Cheers, cheers, cheers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"487\" data-end=\"553\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"487\" data-end=\"506\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> …a quirky Italian spot in San Francisco…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"555\" data-end=\"623\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"555\" data-end=\"572\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> I’m kind of wishing that I had the Caesar salad.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"625\" data-end=\"697\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"625\" data-end=\"644\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> …and a hip wine and whiskey lounge in Oakland…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"699\" data-end=\"756\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"699\" data-end=\"715\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Trust me, that dish did not last long.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"758\" data-end=\"823\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"758\" data-end=\"777\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> …just ahead on \u003cem>Check, Please! Bay Area\u003c/em>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"825\" data-end=\"847\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"825\" data-end=\"841\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Oh.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"849\" data-end=\"879\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"849\" data-end=\"868\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Tell us.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"881\" data-end=\"898\">[music playing]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"900\" data-end=\"1426\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"900\" data-end=\"919\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Hi, I’m Leslie Sbrocco. Welcome to \u003cem>Check, Please! Bay Area\u003c/em>, the show where Bay Area residents review and talk about their favorite restaurants. Now, we have three guests, and each one recommends one of their favorite spots, and the other two go check them out to see what they think. Joining me at the \u003cem>Check, Please!\u003c/em> table today are retired lawyer and podcaster \u003cstrong data-start=\"1286\" data-end=\"1301\">Richard Hsu\u003c/strong>, podcaster and editor \u003cstrong data-start=\"1324\" data-end=\"1337\">Jeff Hunt\u003c/strong>, and senior analyst \u003cstrong data-start=\"1358\" data-end=\"1374\">Tonya Thomas\u003c/strong>. Well, welcome, everyone. Are you ready to party?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1428\" data-end=\"1443\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1428\" data-end=\"1436\">All:\u003c/strong> Yes!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1445\" data-end=\"1699\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1445\" data-end=\"1464\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Richard’s up first with his favorite date-night spot. It’s a casual little eatery founded by two sisters, bringing their own modern twist to traditional Thai and Laotian dishes. Nestled in the heart of Alameda, it’s Bhan Mae Vane.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1701\" data-end=\"1732\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1701\" data-end=\"1715\">Thip Tran:\u003c/strong> Welcome, guys.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1734\" data-end=\"1841\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1734\" data-end=\"1748\">Bebe Lach:\u003c/strong> Bhan Mae Vane is a Lao and Thai restaurant in the heart of Alameda, family-run business.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1843\" data-end=\"1986\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1843\" data-end=\"1857\">Thip Tran:\u003c/strong> When we created this business, we created it in honor of our mom. My family came from Vientiane, which is the capital of Laos.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1988\" data-end=\"2327\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1988\" data-end=\"2002\">Bebe Lach:\u003c/strong> Growing up, my mom ran a family restaurant. But back in those days, it was Thai food. It wasn’t Laotian food. My mom was afraid to really bring that out because nobody knew anything about Laos. Lao food, some ingredients are pungent, like anchovy sauce and shrimp paste sauce, so it adds a little bit more depth of flavor.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2329\" data-end=\"3041\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2329\" data-end=\"2343\">Bebe Lach:\u003c/strong> Nam Khao is our crispy rice ball salad that is a traditional Laotian dish, but it’s my mom’s twist to things—like add a little bit of this to give it more flavor here—because people don’t do that. So we’ve learned those little tips and tricks from her. My favorite item on the menu is the sakoo. Sakoo is savory tapioca balls. It’s ground pork with fresh shallots, onions, garlic, peanuts, wrapped with tapioca dough. Back in the day before we opened our restaurant, you’d get lucky if you’d get it from a little old lady selling it at the temple. It’s just a dish that you just can’t find anywhere. You wrap it all up in a bite-size and just pop it in, and it’s like, the best thing ever.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3043\" data-end=\"3146\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3043\" data-end=\"3057\">Thip Tran:\u003c/strong> People are actually coming in and ordering the Thai food and exploring the Lao food…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3148\" data-end=\"3170\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3148\" data-end=\"3162\">Bebe Lach:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3172\" data-end=\"3211\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3172\" data-end=\"3186\">Thip Tran:\u003c/strong> …and also loving it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3213\" data-end=\"3578\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3213\" data-end=\"3227\">Bebe Lach:\u003c/strong> If my mom was here and she could see what we’ve done with this restaurant in honor of her, I think she would be proud. My mom did get a chance to try my food, and one of the last things that she asked for before she passed away was, um… [voice breaking] my Pad Thai. She loved my food. And if she were to be looking down, she’d be very proud.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3580\" data-end=\"3607\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3580\" data-end=\"3588\">All:\u003c/strong> Bhan Mae Vane!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3609\" data-end=\"3621\">[cheering]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3623\" data-end=\"3742\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3623\" data-end=\"3642\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> All right, Richard, you live in San Francisco, but you make that trek to Alameda. Is it worth it?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3744\" data-end=\"4016\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3744\" data-end=\"3760\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> It’s totally worth it for Bhan Mae Vane. My girlfriend grew up in Alameda. She discovered this restaurant. It’s very family-friendly. You can have large groups of people there. It’s bright and airy, it’s modern. It’s really a fun place to have dinner.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4018\" data-end=\"4067\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4018\" data-end=\"4037\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And what do you start with?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4069\" data-end=\"4444\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4069\" data-end=\"4085\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> So we always start with the sakoo, which is this amazing dish that’s served in a bamboo platter. And actually, eating it is kind of like a project. You take the tapioca ball, you put the mint leaf on top, you wrap it in lettuce, and then you eat it like a little burrito, maybe. And then you just get this wonderful sensation of chewiness and crispiness.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4446\" data-end=\"4538\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4446\" data-end=\"4465\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> It’s one of those dishes we call “you can play with your food,” right?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4540\" data-end=\"4567\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4540\" data-end=\"4556\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Totally.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4569\" data-end=\"4614\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4569\" data-end=\"4588\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Did you have that dish?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4616\" data-end=\"4765\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4616\" data-end=\"4630\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> I did. Hands on. I like to touch my food. And there’s no manual, so you’re just kind of making it up as you go. It was just perfect.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4767\" data-end=\"5177\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4767\" data-end=\"4784\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> I ended up getting the pineapple khao pad. It was a beautiful dish. It had raisins. It had pineapple. Oh, and I can’t forget the cashews. That was just delicious and made everything come together very, very well. Then we ordered the garlic noodles. The noodles were buttery, which was absolutely delicious. It wasn’t overly garlicky. Very creamy. They came out hot. It was just perfect.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5179\" data-end=\"5221\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5179\" data-end=\"5195\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> It’s good to hear that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5223\" data-end=\"5277\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5223\" data-end=\"5242\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> All right. What about you, Jeff?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5279\" data-end=\"5524\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5279\" data-end=\"5293\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Fried tofu. Yum! With the Thai-style peanut sauce. I will never kick fried anything—especially tofu—out of bed. And it was delicious. I don’t know if it had to do with the way they cut it in triangles, but the fry was perfect.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5526\" data-end=\"5592\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5526\" data-end=\"5545\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Because triangles maybe give more fry sides?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5594\" data-end=\"5680\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5594\" data-end=\"5608\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> On the outsides. And the inside stayed soft and delicious and creamy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5682\" data-end=\"5753\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5682\" data-end=\"5698\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Did you notice how generous the portions were there?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5755\" data-end=\"5783\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5755\" data-end=\"5769\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Yes, I did.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5785\" data-end=\"5904\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5785\" data-end=\"5801\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> That’s one thing—you really get good bang for your buck at this restaurant. There’s often leftovers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5906\" data-end=\"5932\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5906\" data-end=\"5920\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Oh, yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5934\" data-end=\"5965\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5934\" data-end=\"5951\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> Absolutely.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5967\" data-end=\"6620\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5967\" data-end=\"5983\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> The main dish that we like that’s really excellent is their papaya salad, which is hand-shredded papaya. They make two styles. There’s a Thai style and a Laotian style. Now, the Thai style a lot of people have had—that’s just with standard fish sauce. But the Laotian style has a shrimp paste, so it makes it a little bit more seafoody. And Laotian food can be extremely spicy, so you have to specify which level of spiciness you want. It’s served with crunchy pork rinds, some soft noodles, as well as some cabbage, so it’s just an interesting experience. I’ve never been to Thailand or Laos, but it just makes me want to go there.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"6622\" data-end=\"6837\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"6622\" data-end=\"6641\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Well, they’re right next to each other, right? So the cuisines are very, very similar. But as you said, just those minor differences make quite a difference in what you’re getting on the plate.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"6839\" data-end=\"6866\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"6839\" data-end=\"6855\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Totally.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"6868\" data-end=\"6901\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"6868\" data-end=\"6887\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Absolutely.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"75\" data-end=\"286\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"75\" data-end=\"89\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> I actually visited Laos, and one of the things I loved the most was the food. And larb, in Thai, is one of my favorite Thai dishes. At this place, I believe it’s the same thing, called laab.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"288\" data-end=\"334\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"288\" data-end=\"299\">Server:\u003c/strong> I have Laab Seen for you guys.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"336\" data-end=\"504\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"336\" data-end=\"350\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> And I was asked about the spice, and I said medium. I’m adventurous. And it was a little more than what I would call medium. I’ll just put it that way.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"506\" data-end=\"550\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"506\" data-end=\"522\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> It was probably a killer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"552\" data-end=\"738\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"552\" data-end=\"566\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> [laughs] Yeah, right, right. But it was delicious all the same. It’s minced chicken meat and then herbs and peppers, and it’s so flavorful and just a really good dish.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"740\" data-end=\"792\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"740\" data-end=\"759\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Any other dishes that you had?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"794\" data-end=\"1126\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"794\" data-end=\"811\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> I did. I tried the red curry, and the protein that we used was the chicken. It came in this beautiful dish. It had lots of vegetables—bell peppers, radish. It had a whole lot of different vegetables in there that just merged very nicely together. The only thing, I just wish they had a little bit more chicken.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1128\" data-end=\"1158\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1128\" data-end=\"1144\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Okay, okay.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1160\" data-end=\"1257\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1160\" data-end=\"1177\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> And the sauce was a little spicy, but the dish itself was delicious, so yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1259\" data-end=\"1286\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1259\" data-end=\"1278\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Okay.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1288\" data-end=\"1393\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1288\" data-end=\"1302\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> I don’t want to leave this restaurant discussion without talking about the pork belly.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1395\" data-end=\"1417\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1395\" data-end=\"1411\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Oh.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1419\" data-end=\"1487\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1419\" data-end=\"1438\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Tell us. Tell us. ‘Cause I’m a pork belly fan.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1489\" data-end=\"1662\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1489\" data-end=\"1503\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Good morning, good afternoon, and good night. I mean, I also won’t kick any pork belly out of bed, but what I really loved is that the crispiness was crisp.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1664\" data-end=\"1688\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1664\" data-end=\"1680\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1690\" data-end=\"1812\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1690\" data-end=\"1704\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> And the belly was soft. So you had that texture experience in your mouth, and the flavors—oh my goodness.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1814\" data-end=\"1837\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1814\" data-end=\"1830\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Wow.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1839\" data-end=\"1882\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1839\" data-end=\"1853\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> It’s just so, so, so good.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1884\" data-end=\"2001\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1884\" data-end=\"1900\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> So one of the drinks that I don’t know if you guys got to try is called the Thai iced green tea.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2003\" data-end=\"2032\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2003\" data-end=\"2017\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Oh, wow. No.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2034\" data-end=\"2297\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2034\" data-end=\"2050\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Which is not like a regular Thai iced tea. This is actually a green-colored drink with maybe a little bit of matcha in it. And it was layered so that the milk was on top and the green part was on the bottom, but it was very floral and fragrant.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2299\" data-end=\"2349\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2299\" data-end=\"2318\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And did you get any dessert?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2351\" data-end=\"2404\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2351\" data-end=\"2367\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> They only have two desserts there.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2406\" data-end=\"2423\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2406\" data-end=\"2416\">Woman:\u003c/strong> Wow.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2425\" data-end=\"2478\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2425\" data-end=\"2441\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> One is a sticky rice mango dish.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2480\" data-end=\"2505\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2480\" data-end=\"2494\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Oh, yum.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2507\" data-end=\"2971\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2507\" data-end=\"2523\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> And one is an egg custard purple rice dish. And they’re both served with this coconut creamy sauce, which makes it kind of a little savory and kind of a little bit sweet, and in both cases, you have the contrast of the rice, which is warm, and then you’ve got the cold mango, and then you have the warm purple rice with kind of a cold egg custard. So it just makes a beautiful kind of a soft dessert. But it really kind of rounds out the meal.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2973\" data-end=\"3033\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2973\" data-end=\"2992\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Definitely cleanses your palate after.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3035\" data-end=\"3111\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3035\" data-end=\"3051\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> It cleanses your palate. It’s just kind of perfect, nice.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3113\" data-end=\"3175\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3113\" data-end=\"3127\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> It’s like a goodbye kiss from the restaurant.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3177\" data-end=\"3232\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3177\" data-end=\"3193\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Yeah, that’s exactly what it’s like.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3234\" data-end=\"3293\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3234\" data-end=\"3253\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> I love that. Would you stop by again?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3295\" data-end=\"3631\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3295\" data-end=\"3312\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> Oh, absolutely. The service was good. We got there about lunchtime, and it wasn’t that many folks. We got seated pretty quickly. But I kid you not, within about 15 minutes, it started getting very full, to the point where they needed a wait list. So it just kind of attests to it being a very popular place to go to.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3633\" data-end=\"3714\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3633\" data-end=\"3652\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And it sounded like you’ll go back just for those desserts.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3716\" data-end=\"3825\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3716\" data-end=\"3730\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Especially after this conversation, I’m going back, yeah. I’ll find a way to get to Alameda.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3827\" data-end=\"3892\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3827\" data-end=\"3846\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> You need that little kiss of dessert there.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3894\" data-end=\"3919\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3894\" data-end=\"3908\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Correct.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3921\" data-end=\"4099\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3921\" data-end=\"3940\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> All right. If you would like to try Bhan Mae Vane, it’s located on Webster Street in Alameda, and the average tab per person without drinks is around $30.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"49\" data-end=\"357\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"49\" data-end=\"68\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> As a podcaster, Jeff has a passion for telling stories of the unique people and places you can only find in the city by the Bay. Case in point—the eclectic spot that’s become his go-to for Italian comfort food. Located in San Francisco’s Mission District, it’s Emmy’s Spaghetti Shack.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"359\" data-end=\"503\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"359\" data-end=\"377\">Michael Irish:\u003c/strong> The vibe of Emmy’s is super laid back, a little quirky. And I think it’s really, really hard to not have fun in this place.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"505\" data-end=\"521\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"505\" data-end=\"519\">[Cheering]\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"523\" data-end=\"823\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"523\" data-end=\"539\">Emmy Kaplan:\u003c/strong> I founded the restaurant in 2001. I was a server at the time in some pretty fancy places. We wanted somewhere to eat after work at 10:00, 11:00. We wanted music, we wanted good food, and a place where we could all feel like we belonged and we didn’t have to dress up and get fancy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"825\" data-end=\"1096\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"825\" data-end=\"843\">Michael Irish:\u003c/strong> We don’t shy away from the portions here at Emmy’s. Italian-American comfort food, top to bottom. It’s big spaghetti and meatballs. It’s a big lasagna. You can share it with your friends. You can eat it yourself. No judgment, whatever you want to do.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1098\" data-end=\"1422\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1098\" data-end=\"1114\">Emmy Kaplan:\u003c/strong> The thing I’m most proud of on the menu is the Cadillac Lasagna—vodka sauce, ricotta, sunflower seed pesto. We do a pork and beef ragu. You don’t get a lot of al dente lasagna. It’s not easy to do it. You should never be baking your lasagna. You’re baking your lasagna, you’re going the wrong direction.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1424\" data-end=\"1653\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1424\" data-end=\"1442\">Michael Irish:\u003c/strong> The clientele at Emmy’s is all over the place, and I love that. It’s young, old. The servers—they’re always really nice people. They’re gonna be smiling. We’ll tell jokes. We’ll do shots if that’s your thing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1655\" data-end=\"1704\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1655\" data-end=\"1665\">Irish:\u003c/strong> Cheers, cheers, cheers, prost, yeah!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1706\" data-end=\"1873\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1706\" data-end=\"1724\">Michael Irish:\u003c/strong> It’s really a community place. And that’s the thing that Emmy did, and I’m gonna keep going with. It’s one of my favorite things about this place.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1875\" data-end=\"1985\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1875\" data-end=\"1894\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> You know, to use the word unique about Emmy’s Spaghetti Shack, why do you think that is?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1987\" data-end=\"2127\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1987\" data-end=\"2001\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> I think of the place as part art gallery, part little kids’ playground, and part delicious, warm, comforting, hugging food.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2129\" data-end=\"2157\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2129\" data-end=\"2148\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Right.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2159\" data-end=\"2181\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2159\" data-end=\"2173\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2183\" data-end=\"2216\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2183\" data-end=\"2202\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> In a shack.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2218\" data-end=\"2341\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2218\" data-end=\"2232\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> In a shack, yeah. I mean, yeah, and also the alliteration. Spaghetti Shack—who doesn’t want to go there?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2343\" data-end=\"2425\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2343\" data-end=\"2362\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> That’s right. Okay, you walk in the door. What do you order?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2427\" data-end=\"2805\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2427\" data-end=\"2441\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> The first thing I usually order is their Caesar salad, which I think of as kind of a deconstructed Caesar. They’ve got the long strips of romaine covered with toasted Parmesan, and I don’t know what they do to their croutons, but they stay crunchy through the dressing, which is an anchovy dressing. And, hello, hello, hello, hello. Get in my mouth, you know?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2807\" data-end=\"2862\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2807\" data-end=\"2826\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Right. It checks all those boxes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2864\" data-end=\"2898\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2864\" data-end=\"2878\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> All of the boxes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2900\" data-end=\"2973\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2900\" data-end=\"2919\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And what about you, Tonya? What did you start with?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2975\" data-end=\"3267\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2975\" data-end=\"2992\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> So I started with the butter lettuce salad. I’m a little disappointed now that I didn’t get the Caesar salad. The butter lettuce salad was basic. It had some radishes on it, and it had a citrusy dressing. It was good, but I’m kind of wishing that I had the Caesar salad.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3269\" data-end=\"3326\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3269\" data-end=\"3283\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> You gotta be a little naughty at Emmy’s.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3328\" data-end=\"3365\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3328\" data-end=\"3345\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> Exactly, exactly.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3367\" data-end=\"3428\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3367\" data-end=\"3386\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Okay. What did you start with, Richard?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3430\" data-end=\"3537\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3430\" data-end=\"3446\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Well, I started with their spaghetti and meatballs. That’s what—they’re famous for it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3539\" data-end=\"3574\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3539\" data-end=\"3556\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> Skip the salad.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3576\" data-end=\"3942\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3576\" data-end=\"3592\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Yeah, exactly. The spaghetti and meatballs. And I have to say, like, you know, I’m not a really big spaghetti person, but this spaghetti was just—it tasted like homemade. The meatballs were gigantic. This made me remember, like, how my mom might have made it. Or maybe my grandma made it. And I think that’s why people really love this restaurant.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3944\" data-end=\"4022\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3944\" data-end=\"3963\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Jeff, did you get the spaghetti and meatballs this time?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4024\" data-end=\"4150\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4024\" data-end=\"4038\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Because the spaghetti and meatballs is one of my best friends in the city, I chose not to get that this time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4152\" data-end=\"4243\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4152\" data-end=\"4171\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> But do you agree, when you have gotten it, with Richard’s assessment?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4245\" data-end=\"4523\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4245\" data-end=\"4259\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> It’s one of my good friends. I like to hang out with him. Him and her. No, because in general, I love lasagna. It’s one of my best comfort foods. And I had never had their lasagna. But it’s a different sauce than the spaghetti. It’s a light red vodka sauce.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4525\" data-end=\"4565\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4525\" data-end=\"4541\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Yes, I remember that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4567\" data-end=\"4780\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4567\" data-end=\"4581\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Also delicious. And then they do a little dollop of pesto and a little dollop of ricotta. So it’s got that Margherita, tricolore kind of Italian thing going on, and it was out of this world.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4782\" data-end=\"5029\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4782\" data-end=\"4799\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> I had the lasagna as well, and I wholeheartedly agree. It was delicious. What I also enjoyed, too, was that the noodle itself was al dente, because sometimes people make it a little mushy. It was perfect, and you get a lot.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5031\" data-end=\"5118\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5031\" data-end=\"5047\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Did either of you get the garlic bread on the side, by any chance?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5120\" data-end=\"5208\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5120\" data-end=\"5134\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> I didn’t on this last trip, but I know exactly that of which you speak.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5210\" data-end=\"5560\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5210\" data-end=\"5226\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> It was so funny, because we ordered that kind of accidentally at the very end. And when that came out, we went with a group of friends, and they just wolfed that thing down. [laughs] I mean, this might be the best dish here. So I didn’t know. I just thought, “Maybe we should have a little garlic bread with spaghetti, you know?”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5562\" data-end=\"5592\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5562\" data-end=\"5576\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> To sop it up.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5594\" data-end=\"5643\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5594\" data-end=\"5608\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> And it was—people just loved it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5645\" data-end=\"5691\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5645\" data-end=\"5664\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> No garlic bread for you?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5693\" data-end=\"5907\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5693\" data-end=\"5710\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> No garlic bread. I had the focaccia bread that came with my dish. So that piece of bread came in handy. Was able to sop it up and finish it all. I literally—there was nothing left on my plate.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5909\" data-end=\"5934\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5909\" data-end=\"5923\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Perfect.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"49\" data-end=\"419\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"49\" data-end=\"65\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Well, we had the lasagna also, but the dish that we also had on top of that—we had a lot of people—was the peppercorn steak and the pesto spaghetti that goes on the side. And what’s amazing about the steak—it’s very tender and grilled and everything—is they put peppercorns in the steak, which I think tenderizes it. I’d never had that before.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"421\" data-end=\"470\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"421\" data-end=\"435\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> It’s also a peppercorn au jus.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"472\" data-end=\"514\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"472\" data-end=\"488\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Oh, is that what it is?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"516\" data-end=\"538\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"516\" data-end=\"530\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"540\" data-end=\"707\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"540\" data-end=\"556\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Got it, got it. And I wasn’t expecting that at a Spaghetti Shack, but it was really a nice dish. And we were really thrilled that we ordered that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"709\" data-end=\"767\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"709\" data-end=\"728\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And did you have anything to sip on?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"769\" data-end=\"979\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"769\" data-end=\"785\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> I had this really interesting drink called Lupe Under the Sun, and it was served with a little orange, and it had an umbrella in it, and it was a spicy mango tequila. Really hit the spot.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"981\" data-end=\"1002\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"981\" data-end=\"995\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Wow.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1004\" data-end=\"1077\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1004\" data-end=\"1023\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> You would definitely be on the beach under the sun.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1079\" data-end=\"1117\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1079\" data-end=\"1095\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> For sure, for sure.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1119\" data-end=\"1153\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1119\" data-end=\"1138\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And dessert?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1155\" data-end=\"1637\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1155\" data-end=\"1171\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> They have two off-the-menu desserts. There are actually no desserts on the menu, but we saw two desserts go by us as we were sitting there. So we, you know, pulled off the waiter and said, “Hey, what are those?” And then they told us it’s this decadent, decadent brownie with two scoops of ice cream, and they have a peanut butter bar with two scoops of ice cream. So when he said, “Look, these are the only two desserts,” we said, “We’ll take them both.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1639\" data-end=\"1661\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1639\" data-end=\"1653\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Yeah!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1663\" data-end=\"1721\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1663\" data-end=\"1682\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> I’m gonna call you my dessert guy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1723\" data-end=\"1804\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1723\" data-end=\"1739\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> I know. I’m your dessert guy. We went all out on the desserts.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1806\" data-end=\"1874\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1806\" data-end=\"1825\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Mm-hmm. And you did not have dessert, did you?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1876\" data-end=\"1910\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1876\" data-end=\"1893\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> No, I did not.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1912\" data-end=\"1975\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1912\" data-end=\"1931\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Okay. You did not see the desserts go by?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1977\" data-end=\"2000\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1977\" data-end=\"1994\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> No.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2002\" data-end=\"2044\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2002\" data-end=\"2018\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> They’re off-menu, so…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2046\" data-end=\"2111\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2046\" data-end=\"2065\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Think of the calories you saved yourself.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2113\" data-end=\"2591\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2113\" data-end=\"2130\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> Oh, lots. Although I think I made up with it with the wine because I absolutely had wine with my dinner. And I actually made it for happy hour, which was nice. I went on a Tuesday. So what I didn’t realize was that on Tuesdays, kids eat free. And I just kept seeing all these little kids coming. I’m like, “Oh, they’re cute.” I’m all, “Oh, there’s a lot of them.” And then I go, “Oh, it’s…” you know, they said, “Yes, it’s Kids Eat Free night.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2593\" data-end=\"2730\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2593\" data-end=\"2612\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> That’s a beautiful thing to have in that neighborhood, especially with the cost of food and taking your family out.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2732\" data-end=\"2763\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2732\" data-end=\"2749\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> Absolutely.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2765\" data-end=\"2787\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2765\" data-end=\"2779\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2789\" data-end=\"2881\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2789\" data-end=\"2808\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And you go back repeatedly, so you obviously feel the prices are fair?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2883\" data-end=\"3053\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2883\" data-end=\"2897\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> I do, and I don’t always finish my meal. So sometimes it’s two meals, so even more bang for your buck. It’s a comforting food and a comforting place.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3055\" data-end=\"3263\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3055\" data-end=\"3074\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> All right, if you would like to try Emmy’s Spaghetti Shack, it’s located on Mission Street in San Francisco, and the average dinner tab per person without drinks is around \u003cstrong data-start=\"3253\" data-end=\"3260\">$50\u003c/strong>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3265\" data-end=\"3522\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3265\" data-end=\"3284\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Tonya’s a girl after my own heart. Give her a glass of Pinot paired with some globally inspired small plates, and she’s all set for the perfect night out. She’s found her happy place in the heart of Old Oakland at District.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3524\" data-end=\"3545\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3524\" data-end=\"3543\">[music playing]\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3547\" data-end=\"3714\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3547\" data-end=\"3562\">Josn Marsh:\u003c/strong> When you walk into District, it’s so fun, energetic, good food, good conversation. It’s a wonderful place to hang out and enjoy downtown Oakland.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3716\" data-end=\"3751\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3716\" data-end=\"3725\">Host:\u003c/strong> We need a spot for two?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3753\" data-end=\"3807\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3753\" data-end=\"3768\">Josn Marsh:\u003c/strong> All right. Let’s see what we can do.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3809\" data-end=\"4136\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3809\" data-end=\"3824\">Josn Marsh:\u003c/strong> Our original location in San Francisco was solely a wine bar. When we opened up the Oakland location, our concept expanded into a wine and whiskey bar. We do flights of whiskey as well as single portions, and we have a large amount of allocated whiskeys you really can’t find almost anywhere else.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4138\" data-end=\"4172\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4138\" data-end=\"4148\">Guest:\u003c/strong> Cheers to District.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4174\" data-end=\"4201\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4174\" data-end=\"4187\">Guest #2:\u003c/strong> Absolutely.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4203\" data-end=\"4522\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4203\" data-end=\"4218\">Josn Marsh:\u003c/strong> Here at District, we do love our strong flavors. Our executive chef, Bob Cina, has a globally inspired menu of small plates—flavors from Mediterranean, Asian, and Peruvian influences. And it’s also seasonally done to create a different experience every time you walk into District.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4524\" data-end=\"4556\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4524\" data-end=\"4533\">Host:\u003c/strong> Welcome. Come on in.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4558\" data-end=\"4779\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4558\" data-end=\"4573\">Josn Marsh:\u003c/strong> My favorite thing on the menu—charcuterie and cheese. I think it’s a beautiful offering. It pairs so well with both whiskey and wine. It’s a delicious place to start your evening at District.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4781\" data-end=\"5039\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4781\" data-end=\"4796\">Josn Marsh:\u003c/strong> Old Oakland, hence the name, is the oldest part of downtown Oakland. Beautiful architecture, tree-lined streets. It’s a wonderful community down here. We have so many regulars who support us. People enjoy coming here after work.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5041\" data-end=\"5065\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5041\" data-end=\"5054\">Guest #3:\u003c/strong> So good.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5067\" data-end=\"5091\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5067\" data-end=\"5080\">Guest #4:\u003c/strong> So good.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5093\" data-end=\"5373\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5093\" data-end=\"5108\">Josn Marsh:\u003c/strong> And then in the evening time, we turn into a more vibrant lounge with exciting music and just a lot of fun entertainment. Walk in on any Friday night, I know half the people at the bar, and they know each other. It’s really a wonderful place to be.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5375\" data-end=\"5423\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5375\" data-end=\"5388\">Guest #5:\u003c/strong> That’s the town biz, baby. Uh!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"49\" data-end=\"184\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"49\" data-end=\"68\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Now, Tonya, this place looks like a good spot to watch a game, right, or sit at the bar. What brings you there?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"186\" data-end=\"515\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"186\" data-end=\"203\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> So not only can you watch the game. There might be a birthday party going on, an anniversary. There’s a lot of different things that go on at District. People think, “Oh, it’s a bar.” But when you look at the menu, you’re like, “Okay, these aren’t typical things that you could see at a bar per se.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"517\" data-end=\"903\">I always start with the Arancini Romano. It has a nice breadcrumb crust on the outside, and inside, nice cheesy risotto and spinach. Really delicious. It also is plated very nicely. It has this little garnish that comes on top. And then there’s this delicious smoked tomato sauce. Oh, my goodness. You have to get that and put it on there. It’s absolutely delicious.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"905\" data-end=\"980\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"905\" data-end=\"924\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Okay, Jeff, what was your experience at District?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"982\" data-end=\"1025\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"982\" data-end=\"996\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Big fan of deviled eggs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1027\" data-end=\"1084\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1027\" data-end=\"1043\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Oh, they have the deviled eggs, yes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1086\" data-end=\"1259\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1086\" data-end=\"1100\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Fermented chili and pickled radish is what’s inside. And it just filled my mouth with experience, flavor, and happiness. Yeah, wonderful way to start.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1261\" data-end=\"1296\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1261\" data-end=\"1280\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Happy eggs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1298\" data-end=\"1320\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1298\" data-end=\"1312\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1322\" data-end=\"1680\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1322\" data-end=\"1338\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> We had the lamb meatballs with the garlic bread. I don’t know if you’ve tried that, but they were really delicious. You know, lamb can be gamey sometimes, but what they do is they put mint leaves into the lamb. So it really makes it a nice flavor. And then the garlic bread to go with it—it was just the perfect contrast.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1682\" data-end=\"1718\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1682\" data-end=\"1699\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> Yes. Absolutely.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1720\" data-end=\"1747\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1720\" data-end=\"1739\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1749\" data-end=\"2044\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1749\" data-end=\"1766\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> Because I go there often, I got the dinner for two. The dinner for two is actually a great value. It comes with a starter, entrée, and it also comes with a salad. So it’s a perfect thing to get when you go there and you don’t want to spend a whole lot of money.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2046\" data-end=\"2295\">The organic greens—oh, my goodness. It’s probably one of the best salads that I’ve had any place. They have the avocados, the spicy sunflower seeds, the citrus, the watermelon radish. It’s just a beautiful salad and absolutely delicious.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2297\" data-end=\"2402\">And then recently, I ordered their pizza. I’m not sure if you guys got a chance to try their pizza.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2404\" data-end=\"2431\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2404\" data-end=\"2420\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Oh, yes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2433\" data-end=\"2666\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2433\" data-end=\"2450\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> It’s a very simple pizza. It’s on a thin crust. Very cheesy. I love the Margherita and the basil on there, so it’s really good. But you can definitely order all kinds of different varieties on there.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2668\" data-end=\"2758\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2668\" data-end=\"2684\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> We did have that pizza, and we actually added prosciutto to that…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2760\" data-end=\"2784\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2760\" data-end=\"2777\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> Yes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2786\" data-end=\"2862\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2786\" data-end=\"2802\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> …which they said was one of the most common things…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2864\" data-end=\"2910\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2864\" data-end=\"2881\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> Good choice. Yes, it is.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2912\" data-end=\"3030\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2912\" data-end=\"2928\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Our waiter said, “This is one of the most popular dishes.” So, yes, that was really terrific.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3032\" data-end=\"3056\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3032\" data-end=\"3049\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> Yes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3058\" data-end=\"3544\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3058\" data-end=\"3072\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> I’m also a big fan of a Spanish dish called gambas al ajillo. And it’s prawns and garlic—that’s kind of the base of it. The way that District did it was very special. It’s served on a lemon risotto, so full of flavor and so bright and beautiful yellow, which contrasts with the redness of the prawns. They were grilled perfectly, and there were fried capers that were kind of dotted all around it. I didn’t know that existed, and now I do.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3546\" data-end=\"3609\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3546\" data-end=\"3565\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> They add a nice little pop of herbal…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3611\" data-end=\"3750\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3611\" data-end=\"3625\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> A pop, and that beautiful—yes. So good. My companion that day is vegan, so the Brussels sprouts that we ordered…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3752\" data-end=\"3783\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3752\" data-end=\"3769\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> Oh, gosh.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3785\" data-end=\"3881\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3785\" data-end=\"3799\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> …we had to get them without the pork, and he also has a pine nut allergy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3883\" data-end=\"3908\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3883\" data-end=\"3900\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3910\" data-end=\"3943\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3910\" data-end=\"3924\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Still amazing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3945\" data-end=\"3970\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3945\" data-end=\"3962\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> Okay.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3972\" data-end=\"4087\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3972\" data-end=\"3986\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> I think Brussels sprouts aren’t easy, I’m gonna say. But they did them absolutely perfectly.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4089\" data-end=\"4114\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4089\" data-end=\"4106\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4116\" data-end=\"4202\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4116\" data-end=\"4130\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> And I felt like all the food was on a level above. Really good.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4204\" data-end=\"4275\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4204\" data-end=\"4220\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Well, and since I’m the dessert guy, apparently…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4277\" data-end=\"4371\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4277\" data-end=\"4296\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> I know. I was waiting to get to dessert. Richard, what did you have?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4373\" data-end=\"4434\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4373\" data-end=\"4389\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> They had a pear and black currant crisp.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4436\" data-end=\"4459\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4436\" data-end=\"4450\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Yum!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4461\" data-end=\"4624\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4461\" data-end=\"4477\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Okay? It had that oat crisp, served hot with, of course, cold ice cream on top, which melted over the edges. Anyway, it was fantastic.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4626\" data-end=\"4698\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4626\" data-end=\"4645\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Now, how many spoons were ordered with that one?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4700\" data-end=\"4832\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4700\" data-end=\"4716\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> We had four spoons. And trust me, that dish did not last long. The ice cream didn’t even have time to melt.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4834\" data-end=\"4982\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4834\" data-end=\"4853\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> That’s good! And with all that food, did you feel like, hey, this is affordable? This is a place I could come back to?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4984\" data-end=\"5254\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4984\" data-end=\"5000\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Definitely. I mean, definitely. I’m not sure about bringing, like, a family, because it’s kind of more of an adult place, but definitely for coworkers to come after work and kind of decompress after a long week, I think it’s perfect.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5256\" data-end=\"5289\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5256\" data-end=\"5273\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> Absolutely.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5291\" data-end=\"5400\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5291\" data-end=\"5305\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Yeah. I’m a city kid, but I love Oakland. And I especially—you know, it’s BART-able.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5402\" data-end=\"5428\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5402\" data-end=\"5419\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> Yes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5430\" data-end=\"5590\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5430\" data-end=\"5444\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Short walk from BART. I love that little part of Oakland. Old Oakland is a really cool section, so I will definitely be going back.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5592\" data-end=\"5618\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5592\" data-end=\"5609\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> Yes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5620\" data-end=\"5658\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5620\" data-end=\"5636\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Fantastic choice.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5660\" data-end=\"5837\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5660\" data-end=\"5679\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> If you would like to try District, it’s located on Washington Street in Old Oakland, and the average tab per person without drinks is around \u003cstrong data-start=\"5827\" data-end=\"5834\">$45\u003c/strong>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"49\" data-end=\"198\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"49\" data-end=\"68\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Looking for more Bay Area bites you’ve just got to try? Check out “Cecilia Tries It”, online at \u003cstrong data-start=\"171\" data-end=\"195\">kqed.org/checkplease\u003c/strong>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"200\" data-end=\"523\">I have to thank my fabulous guests on this week’s show—\u003cstrong data-start=\"257\" data-end=\"272\">Richard Hsu\u003c/strong>, who savors the sakoo at Bhan Mae Vane in Alameda, \u003cstrong data-start=\"330\" data-end=\"343\">Jeff Hunt\u003c/strong>, who slurps down the spaghetti and meatballs at Emmy’s Spaghetti Shack in San Francisco, and \u003cstrong data-start=\"443\" data-end=\"459\">Tonya Thomas\u003c/strong>, who adores the Arancini Romano at District in Oakland.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"525\" data-end=\"699\">Join us next time when three more guests will recommend their favorite spots right here on “\u003cem>Check, Please! Bay Area\u003c/em>.” I’m \u003cstrong data-start=\"653\" data-end=\"671\">Leslie Sbrocco\u003c/strong>, and I’ll see you then.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"701\" data-end=\"733\">Cheers, and \u003cstrong data-start=\"713\" data-end=\"731\">cheers to you!\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"735\" data-end=\"763\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"735\" data-end=\"751\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Cheers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"765\" data-end=\"821\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"765\" data-end=\"784\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Great job, great job, great job.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"823\" data-end=\"854\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"823\" data-end=\"852\">[Indistinct conversation]\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"907\" data-end=\"1212\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"907\" data-end=\"925\">Michael Irish:\u003c/strong> The space has been here about 24 years now. When I first walked in three years ago, I thought this place was so awesome. 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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>\u003cem>Check, Please! Bay Area, \u003c/em>season 19, episode 15, airs Thursday, February 20, at 7:30 pm, on KQED 9. See other \u003ca href=\"http://www.kqed.org/tv/programs/index.jsp?pgmid=14084\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">television airtimes\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400;\">This week’s culinary adventure begins at \u003cstrong>Bhan Mae Vane\u003c/strong> in Alameda, a vibrant eatery specializing in bold, aromatic Laotian cuisine. Highlights include tangy, refreshing papaya salad, spicy and savory pad kee mao noodles, and perfectly crisped pork belly. Next, \u003cstrong>Emmy’s Spaghetti Shack\u003c/strong> in San Francisco’s Mission District combines a quirky, eclectic vibe with satisfying Italian-American comfort food. Guests enjoy their hearty five-layer Cadillac lasagna, spaghetti and meatballs, and their juicy, flavorful steak dinners served with red peppercorn jus and pesto spaghetti. Lastly, \u003cstrong>District\u003c/strong> in downtown Oakland brings an elegant yet approachable dining experience, offering expertly crafted shareable plates designed to pair with an artfully curated selection of wines and cocktails. From classic Margherita pizza and crispy arancini romano to tender lamb meatballs and elote topped with roasted chili crema and cotija cheese, District’s menu thrills both wine enthusiasts and food lovers alike.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_23378\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-23378\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/02/1915_Guests_03-800x533.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/02/1915_Guests_03-800x533.png 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/02/1915_Guests_03-1020x680.png 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/02/1915_Guests_03-160x107.png 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/02/1915_Guests_03-768x512.png 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/02/1915_Guests_03-1536x1024.png 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/02/1915_Guests_03.png 1620w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\" />\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Host Leslie Sbrocco joins guests Richard Hsu, Tonya Thomas and Jeff Hunt from KQED in San Francisco.\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Get Restaurant Information:\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.bhanmaevane.com/\">\u003cstrong>Bhan Mae Vane\u003c/strong> (Alameda)\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://sfspaghettishack.com/\">\u003cstrong>Emmy’s Spaghetti Shack\u003c/strong> (San Francisco)\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://districtoak.com/\">\u003cstrong>District\u003c/strong> (Oakland)\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_20123\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-20123\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2019/04/Leslie-Headshot-Smokey-copy-800x540.jpg\" alt=\"Host Leslie Sbrocco sipping wine\" width=\"800\" height=\"540\" />\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Host Leslie Sbrocco sipping wine \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Leslie Sbrocco)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>My name is Leslie Sbrocco, and I’m the \u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/checkplease/host-biography/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">host\u003c/a> of \u003cem>Check, Please! Bay Area\u003c/em>. Each week, I’ll share my tasting notes about the wine, beer and spirits the guests and I drank on set during the taping of the show.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-23379\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/02/1915_Wines-800x1067.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"1067\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/02/1915_Wines-800x1067.png 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/02/1915_Wines-1020x1360.png 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/02/1915_Wines-160x213.png 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/02/1915_Wines-768x1024.png 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/02/1915_Wines-1152x1536.png 1152w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/02/1915_Wines-1536x2048.png 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2025/02/1915_Wines-1920x2560.png 1920w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\" />\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://www.cuvaison.com/wines/release/2023-estate-sauvignon-blanc-2023\">\u003cspan style=\"color: #339966;\">\u003cb>Cuvaison 2022 Sauvignon Blanc\u003c/b>\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cbr />\n\u003cem>Napa Valley, Los Carneros, California $28\u003c/em>\u003cbr />\nAs one of Napa Valley’s classic family producers, Cuvaison was founded in 1969 and has become not only a wine country destination but also a creator of benchmark wines. They are well known for elegant pinot noir and chardonnay. My pick for their superstar sipper, however, is sauvignon blanc. Made in a crisp, zesty style overflowing with lip-smacking citrus notes, this white has aromatic complexity from a touch of the grape semillon blended with the sauvignon blanc. A perfect complement to grilled fish dishes, feta-topped chicken and quinoa, and brunch casseroles. Stock up for year-round enjoyment.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://www.vineyardbrands.com/wine.aspx?pid=159&cid=49446&wid=1625\">\u003cspan style=\"color: #339966;\">\u003cstrong>Serena 2023 “MODE 0,0” Sauvignon Blanc\u003c/strong>\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cbr />\n\u003cem>Chile $15\u003c/em>\u003cbr />\nIf you’re looking for a nonalcoholic white that still captures the freshness and character of sauvignon blanc, look no further than this impressive bottling from Miguel Torres in Chile. Finding delicious wine without alcohol can be a challenge. This is one of the first examples I heartily recommend. Light lemon-lime aromas are followed by a bright mouthful of flavor. Enjoy with chips and salsa on a sunny day.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Episode Transcript\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp data-start=\"321\" data-end=\"386\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"321\" data-end=\"340\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Bold Laotian and Thai flavors in Alameda…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"388\" data-end=\"439\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"388\" data-end=\"402\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Hands on. I like to touch my food.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"441\" data-end=\"485\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"441\" data-end=\"459\">Michael Irish:\u003c/strong> Cheers, cheers, cheers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"487\" data-end=\"553\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"487\" data-end=\"506\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> …a quirky Italian spot in San Francisco…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"555\" data-end=\"623\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"555\" data-end=\"572\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> I’m kind of wishing that I had the Caesar salad.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"625\" data-end=\"697\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"625\" data-end=\"644\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> …and a hip wine and whiskey lounge in Oakland…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"699\" data-end=\"756\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"699\" data-end=\"715\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Trust me, that dish did not last long.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"758\" data-end=\"823\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"758\" data-end=\"777\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> …just ahead on \u003cem>Check, Please! Bay Area\u003c/em>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"825\" data-end=\"847\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"825\" data-end=\"841\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Oh.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"849\" data-end=\"879\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"849\" data-end=\"868\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Tell us.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"881\" data-end=\"898\">[music playing]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"900\" data-end=\"1426\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"900\" data-end=\"919\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Hi, I’m Leslie Sbrocco. Welcome to \u003cem>Check, Please! Bay Area\u003c/em>, the show where Bay Area residents review and talk about their favorite restaurants. Now, we have three guests, and each one recommends one of their favorite spots, and the other two go check them out to see what they think. Joining me at the \u003cem>Check, Please!\u003c/em> table today are retired lawyer and podcaster \u003cstrong data-start=\"1286\" data-end=\"1301\">Richard Hsu\u003c/strong>, podcaster and editor \u003cstrong data-start=\"1324\" data-end=\"1337\">Jeff Hunt\u003c/strong>, and senior analyst \u003cstrong data-start=\"1358\" data-end=\"1374\">Tonya Thomas\u003c/strong>. Well, welcome, everyone. Are you ready to party?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1428\" data-end=\"1443\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1428\" data-end=\"1436\">All:\u003c/strong> Yes!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1445\" data-end=\"1699\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1445\" data-end=\"1464\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Richard’s up first with his favorite date-night spot. It’s a casual little eatery founded by two sisters, bringing their own modern twist to traditional Thai and Laotian dishes. Nestled in the heart of Alameda, it’s Bhan Mae Vane.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1701\" data-end=\"1732\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1701\" data-end=\"1715\">Thip Tran:\u003c/strong> Welcome, guys.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1734\" data-end=\"1841\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1734\" data-end=\"1748\">Bebe Lach:\u003c/strong> Bhan Mae Vane is a Lao and Thai restaurant in the heart of Alameda, family-run business.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1843\" data-end=\"1986\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1843\" data-end=\"1857\">Thip Tran:\u003c/strong> When we created this business, we created it in honor of our mom. My family came from Vientiane, which is the capital of Laos.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1988\" data-end=\"2327\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1988\" data-end=\"2002\">Bebe Lach:\u003c/strong> Growing up, my mom ran a family restaurant. But back in those days, it was Thai food. It wasn’t Laotian food. My mom was afraid to really bring that out because nobody knew anything about Laos. Lao food, some ingredients are pungent, like anchovy sauce and shrimp paste sauce, so it adds a little bit more depth of flavor.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2329\" data-end=\"3041\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2329\" data-end=\"2343\">Bebe Lach:\u003c/strong> Nam Khao is our crispy rice ball salad that is a traditional Laotian dish, but it’s my mom’s twist to things—like add a little bit of this to give it more flavor here—because people don’t do that. So we’ve learned those little tips and tricks from her. My favorite item on the menu is the sakoo. Sakoo is savory tapioca balls. It’s ground pork with fresh shallots, onions, garlic, peanuts, wrapped with tapioca dough. Back in the day before we opened our restaurant, you’d get lucky if you’d get it from a little old lady selling it at the temple. It’s just a dish that you just can’t find anywhere. You wrap it all up in a bite-size and just pop it in, and it’s like, the best thing ever.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3043\" data-end=\"3146\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3043\" data-end=\"3057\">Thip Tran:\u003c/strong> People are actually coming in and ordering the Thai food and exploring the Lao food…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3148\" data-end=\"3170\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3148\" data-end=\"3162\">Bebe Lach:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3172\" data-end=\"3211\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3172\" data-end=\"3186\">Thip Tran:\u003c/strong> …and also loving it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3213\" data-end=\"3578\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3213\" data-end=\"3227\">Bebe Lach:\u003c/strong> If my mom was here and she could see what we’ve done with this restaurant in honor of her, I think she would be proud. My mom did get a chance to try my food, and one of the last things that she asked for before she passed away was, um… [voice breaking] my Pad Thai. She loved my food. And if she were to be looking down, she’d be very proud.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3580\" data-end=\"3607\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3580\" data-end=\"3588\">All:\u003c/strong> Bhan Mae Vane!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3609\" data-end=\"3621\">[cheering]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3623\" data-end=\"3742\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3623\" data-end=\"3642\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> All right, Richard, you live in San Francisco, but you make that trek to Alameda. Is it worth it?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3744\" data-end=\"4016\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3744\" data-end=\"3760\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> It’s totally worth it for Bhan Mae Vane. My girlfriend grew up in Alameda. She discovered this restaurant. It’s very family-friendly. You can have large groups of people there. It’s bright and airy, it’s modern. It’s really a fun place to have dinner.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4018\" data-end=\"4067\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4018\" data-end=\"4037\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And what do you start with?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4069\" data-end=\"4444\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4069\" data-end=\"4085\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> So we always start with the sakoo, which is this amazing dish that’s served in a bamboo platter. And actually, eating it is kind of like a project. You take the tapioca ball, you put the mint leaf on top, you wrap it in lettuce, and then you eat it like a little burrito, maybe. And then you just get this wonderful sensation of chewiness and crispiness.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4446\" data-end=\"4538\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4446\" data-end=\"4465\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> It’s one of those dishes we call “you can play with your food,” right?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4540\" data-end=\"4567\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4540\" data-end=\"4556\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Totally.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4569\" data-end=\"4614\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4569\" data-end=\"4588\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Did you have that dish?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4616\" data-end=\"4765\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4616\" data-end=\"4630\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> I did. Hands on. I like to touch my food. And there’s no manual, so you’re just kind of making it up as you go. It was just perfect.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4767\" data-end=\"5177\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4767\" data-end=\"4784\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> I ended up getting the pineapple khao pad. It was a beautiful dish. It had raisins. It had pineapple. Oh, and I can’t forget the cashews. That was just delicious and made everything come together very, very well. Then we ordered the garlic noodles. The noodles were buttery, which was absolutely delicious. It wasn’t overly garlicky. Very creamy. They came out hot. It was just perfect.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5179\" data-end=\"5221\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5179\" data-end=\"5195\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> It’s good to hear that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5223\" data-end=\"5277\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5223\" data-end=\"5242\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> All right. What about you, Jeff?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5279\" data-end=\"5524\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5279\" data-end=\"5293\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Fried tofu. Yum! With the Thai-style peanut sauce. I will never kick fried anything—especially tofu—out of bed. And it was delicious. I don’t know if it had to do with the way they cut it in triangles, but the fry was perfect.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5526\" data-end=\"5592\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5526\" data-end=\"5545\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Because triangles maybe give more fry sides?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5594\" data-end=\"5680\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5594\" data-end=\"5608\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> On the outsides. And the inside stayed soft and delicious and creamy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5682\" data-end=\"5753\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5682\" data-end=\"5698\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Did you notice how generous the portions were there?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5755\" data-end=\"5783\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5755\" data-end=\"5769\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Yes, I did.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5785\" data-end=\"5904\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5785\" data-end=\"5801\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> That’s one thing—you really get good bang for your buck at this restaurant. There’s often leftovers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5906\" data-end=\"5932\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5906\" data-end=\"5920\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Oh, yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5934\" data-end=\"5965\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5934\" data-end=\"5951\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> Absolutely.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5967\" data-end=\"6620\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5967\" data-end=\"5983\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> The main dish that we like that’s really excellent is their papaya salad, which is hand-shredded papaya. They make two styles. There’s a Thai style and a Laotian style. Now, the Thai style a lot of people have had—that’s just with standard fish sauce. But the Laotian style has a shrimp paste, so it makes it a little bit more seafoody. And Laotian food can be extremely spicy, so you have to specify which level of spiciness you want. It’s served with crunchy pork rinds, some soft noodles, as well as some cabbage, so it’s just an interesting experience. I’ve never been to Thailand or Laos, but it just makes me want to go there.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"6622\" data-end=\"6837\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"6622\" data-end=\"6641\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Well, they’re right next to each other, right? So the cuisines are very, very similar. But as you said, just those minor differences make quite a difference in what you’re getting on the plate.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"6839\" data-end=\"6866\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"6839\" data-end=\"6855\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Totally.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"6868\" data-end=\"6901\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"6868\" data-end=\"6887\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Absolutely.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"75\" data-end=\"286\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"75\" data-end=\"89\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> I actually visited Laos, and one of the things I loved the most was the food. And larb, in Thai, is one of my favorite Thai dishes. At this place, I believe it’s the same thing, called laab.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"288\" data-end=\"334\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"288\" data-end=\"299\">Server:\u003c/strong> I have Laab Seen for you guys.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"336\" data-end=\"504\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"336\" data-end=\"350\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> And I was asked about the spice, and I said medium. I’m adventurous. And it was a little more than what I would call medium. I’ll just put it that way.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"506\" data-end=\"550\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"506\" data-end=\"522\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> It was probably a killer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"552\" data-end=\"738\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"552\" data-end=\"566\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> [laughs] Yeah, right, right. But it was delicious all the same. It’s minced chicken meat and then herbs and peppers, and it’s so flavorful and just a really good dish.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"740\" data-end=\"792\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"740\" data-end=\"759\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Any other dishes that you had?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"794\" data-end=\"1126\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"794\" data-end=\"811\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> I did. I tried the red curry, and the protein that we used was the chicken. It came in this beautiful dish. It had lots of vegetables—bell peppers, radish. It had a whole lot of different vegetables in there that just merged very nicely together. The only thing, I just wish they had a little bit more chicken.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1128\" data-end=\"1158\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1128\" data-end=\"1144\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Okay, okay.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1160\" data-end=\"1257\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1160\" data-end=\"1177\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> And the sauce was a little spicy, but the dish itself was delicious, so yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1259\" data-end=\"1286\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1259\" data-end=\"1278\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Okay.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1288\" data-end=\"1393\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1288\" data-end=\"1302\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> I don’t want to leave this restaurant discussion without talking about the pork belly.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1395\" data-end=\"1417\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1395\" data-end=\"1411\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Oh.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1419\" data-end=\"1487\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1419\" data-end=\"1438\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Tell us. Tell us. ‘Cause I’m a pork belly fan.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1489\" data-end=\"1662\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1489\" data-end=\"1503\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Good morning, good afternoon, and good night. I mean, I also won’t kick any pork belly out of bed, but what I really loved is that the crispiness was crisp.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1664\" data-end=\"1688\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1664\" data-end=\"1680\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1690\" data-end=\"1812\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1690\" data-end=\"1704\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> And the belly was soft. So you had that texture experience in your mouth, and the flavors—oh my goodness.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1814\" data-end=\"1837\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1814\" data-end=\"1830\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Wow.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1839\" data-end=\"1882\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1839\" data-end=\"1853\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> It’s just so, so, so good.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1884\" data-end=\"2001\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1884\" data-end=\"1900\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> So one of the drinks that I don’t know if you guys got to try is called the Thai iced green tea.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2003\" data-end=\"2032\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2003\" data-end=\"2017\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Oh, wow. No.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2034\" data-end=\"2297\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2034\" data-end=\"2050\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Which is not like a regular Thai iced tea. This is actually a green-colored drink with maybe a little bit of matcha in it. And it was layered so that the milk was on top and the green part was on the bottom, but it was very floral and fragrant.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2299\" data-end=\"2349\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2299\" data-end=\"2318\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And did you get any dessert?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2351\" data-end=\"2404\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2351\" data-end=\"2367\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> They only have two desserts there.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2406\" data-end=\"2423\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2406\" data-end=\"2416\">Woman:\u003c/strong> Wow.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2425\" data-end=\"2478\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2425\" data-end=\"2441\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> One is a sticky rice mango dish.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2480\" data-end=\"2505\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2480\" data-end=\"2494\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Oh, yum.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2507\" data-end=\"2971\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2507\" data-end=\"2523\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> And one is an egg custard purple rice dish. And they’re both served with this coconut creamy sauce, which makes it kind of a little savory and kind of a little bit sweet, and in both cases, you have the contrast of the rice, which is warm, and then you’ve got the cold mango, and then you have the warm purple rice with kind of a cold egg custard. So it just makes a beautiful kind of a soft dessert. But it really kind of rounds out the meal.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2973\" data-end=\"3033\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2973\" data-end=\"2992\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Definitely cleanses your palate after.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3035\" data-end=\"3111\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3035\" data-end=\"3051\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> It cleanses your palate. It’s just kind of perfect, nice.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3113\" data-end=\"3175\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3113\" data-end=\"3127\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> It’s like a goodbye kiss from the restaurant.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3177\" data-end=\"3232\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3177\" data-end=\"3193\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Yeah, that’s exactly what it’s like.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3234\" data-end=\"3293\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3234\" data-end=\"3253\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> I love that. Would you stop by again?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3295\" data-end=\"3631\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3295\" data-end=\"3312\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> Oh, absolutely. The service was good. We got there about lunchtime, and it wasn’t that many folks. We got seated pretty quickly. But I kid you not, within about 15 minutes, it started getting very full, to the point where they needed a wait list. So it just kind of attests to it being a very popular place to go to.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3633\" data-end=\"3714\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3633\" data-end=\"3652\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And it sounded like you’ll go back just for those desserts.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3716\" data-end=\"3825\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3716\" data-end=\"3730\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Especially after this conversation, I’m going back, yeah. I’ll find a way to get to Alameda.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3827\" data-end=\"3892\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3827\" data-end=\"3846\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> You need that little kiss of dessert there.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3894\" data-end=\"3919\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3894\" data-end=\"3908\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Correct.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3921\" data-end=\"4099\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3921\" data-end=\"3940\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> All right. If you would like to try Bhan Mae Vane, it’s located on Webster Street in Alameda, and the average tab per person without drinks is around $30.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"49\" data-end=\"357\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"49\" data-end=\"68\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> As a podcaster, Jeff has a passion for telling stories of the unique people and places you can only find in the city by the Bay. Case in point—the eclectic spot that’s become his go-to for Italian comfort food. Located in San Francisco’s Mission District, it’s Emmy’s Spaghetti Shack.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"359\" data-end=\"503\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"359\" data-end=\"377\">Michael Irish:\u003c/strong> The vibe of Emmy’s is super laid back, a little quirky. And I think it’s really, really hard to not have fun in this place.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"505\" data-end=\"521\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"505\" data-end=\"519\">[Cheering]\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"523\" data-end=\"823\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"523\" data-end=\"539\">Emmy Kaplan:\u003c/strong> I founded the restaurant in 2001. I was a server at the time in some pretty fancy places. We wanted somewhere to eat after work at 10:00, 11:00. We wanted music, we wanted good food, and a place where we could all feel like we belonged and we didn’t have to dress up and get fancy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"825\" data-end=\"1096\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"825\" data-end=\"843\">Michael Irish:\u003c/strong> We don’t shy away from the portions here at Emmy’s. Italian-American comfort food, top to bottom. It’s big spaghetti and meatballs. It’s a big lasagna. You can share it with your friends. You can eat it yourself. No judgment, whatever you want to do.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1098\" data-end=\"1422\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1098\" data-end=\"1114\">Emmy Kaplan:\u003c/strong> The thing I’m most proud of on the menu is the Cadillac Lasagna—vodka sauce, ricotta, sunflower seed pesto. We do a pork and beef ragu. You don’t get a lot of al dente lasagna. It’s not easy to do it. You should never be baking your lasagna. You’re baking your lasagna, you’re going the wrong direction.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1424\" data-end=\"1653\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1424\" data-end=\"1442\">Michael Irish:\u003c/strong> The clientele at Emmy’s is all over the place, and I love that. It’s young, old. The servers—they’re always really nice people. They’re gonna be smiling. We’ll tell jokes. We’ll do shots if that’s your thing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1655\" data-end=\"1704\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1655\" data-end=\"1665\">Irish:\u003c/strong> Cheers, cheers, cheers, prost, yeah!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1706\" data-end=\"1873\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1706\" data-end=\"1724\">Michael Irish:\u003c/strong> It’s really a community place. And that’s the thing that Emmy did, and I’m gonna keep going with. It’s one of my favorite things about this place.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1875\" data-end=\"1985\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1875\" data-end=\"1894\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> You know, to use the word unique about Emmy’s Spaghetti Shack, why do you think that is?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1987\" data-end=\"2127\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1987\" data-end=\"2001\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> I think of the place as part art gallery, part little kids’ playground, and part delicious, warm, comforting, hugging food.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2129\" data-end=\"2157\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2129\" data-end=\"2148\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Right.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2159\" data-end=\"2181\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2159\" data-end=\"2173\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2183\" data-end=\"2216\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2183\" data-end=\"2202\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> In a shack.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2218\" data-end=\"2341\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2218\" data-end=\"2232\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> In a shack, yeah. I mean, yeah, and also the alliteration. Spaghetti Shack—who doesn’t want to go there?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2343\" data-end=\"2425\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2343\" data-end=\"2362\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> That’s right. Okay, you walk in the door. What do you order?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2427\" data-end=\"2805\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2427\" data-end=\"2441\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> The first thing I usually order is their Caesar salad, which I think of as kind of a deconstructed Caesar. They’ve got the long strips of romaine covered with toasted Parmesan, and I don’t know what they do to their croutons, but they stay crunchy through the dressing, which is an anchovy dressing. And, hello, hello, hello, hello. Get in my mouth, you know?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2807\" data-end=\"2862\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2807\" data-end=\"2826\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Right. It checks all those boxes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2864\" data-end=\"2898\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2864\" data-end=\"2878\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> All of the boxes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2900\" data-end=\"2973\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2900\" data-end=\"2919\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And what about you, Tonya? What did you start with?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2975\" data-end=\"3267\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2975\" data-end=\"2992\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> So I started with the butter lettuce salad. I’m a little disappointed now that I didn’t get the Caesar salad. The butter lettuce salad was basic. It had some radishes on it, and it had a citrusy dressing. It was good, but I’m kind of wishing that I had the Caesar salad.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3269\" data-end=\"3326\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3269\" data-end=\"3283\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> You gotta be a little naughty at Emmy’s.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3328\" data-end=\"3365\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3328\" data-end=\"3345\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> Exactly, exactly.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3367\" data-end=\"3428\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3367\" data-end=\"3386\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Okay. What did you start with, Richard?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3430\" data-end=\"3537\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3430\" data-end=\"3446\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Well, I started with their spaghetti and meatballs. That’s what—they’re famous for it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3539\" data-end=\"3574\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3539\" data-end=\"3556\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> Skip the salad.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3576\" data-end=\"3942\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3576\" data-end=\"3592\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Yeah, exactly. The spaghetti and meatballs. And I have to say, like, you know, I’m not a really big spaghetti person, but this spaghetti was just—it tasted like homemade. The meatballs were gigantic. This made me remember, like, how my mom might have made it. Or maybe my grandma made it. And I think that’s why people really love this restaurant.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3944\" data-end=\"4022\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3944\" data-end=\"3963\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Jeff, did you get the spaghetti and meatballs this time?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4024\" data-end=\"4150\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4024\" data-end=\"4038\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Because the spaghetti and meatballs is one of my best friends in the city, I chose not to get that this time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4152\" data-end=\"4243\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4152\" data-end=\"4171\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> But do you agree, when you have gotten it, with Richard’s assessment?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4245\" data-end=\"4523\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4245\" data-end=\"4259\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> It’s one of my good friends. I like to hang out with him. Him and her. No, because in general, I love lasagna. It’s one of my best comfort foods. And I had never had their lasagna. But it’s a different sauce than the spaghetti. It’s a light red vodka sauce.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4525\" data-end=\"4565\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4525\" data-end=\"4541\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Yes, I remember that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4567\" data-end=\"4780\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4567\" data-end=\"4581\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Also delicious. And then they do a little dollop of pesto and a little dollop of ricotta. So it’s got that Margherita, tricolore kind of Italian thing going on, and it was out of this world.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4782\" data-end=\"5029\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4782\" data-end=\"4799\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> I had the lasagna as well, and I wholeheartedly agree. It was delicious. What I also enjoyed, too, was that the noodle itself was al dente, because sometimes people make it a little mushy. It was perfect, and you get a lot.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5031\" data-end=\"5118\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5031\" data-end=\"5047\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Did either of you get the garlic bread on the side, by any chance?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5120\" data-end=\"5208\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5120\" data-end=\"5134\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> I didn’t on this last trip, but I know exactly that of which you speak.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5210\" data-end=\"5560\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5210\" data-end=\"5226\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> It was so funny, because we ordered that kind of accidentally at the very end. And when that came out, we went with a group of friends, and they just wolfed that thing down. [laughs] I mean, this might be the best dish here. So I didn’t know. I just thought, “Maybe we should have a little garlic bread with spaghetti, you know?”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5562\" data-end=\"5592\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5562\" data-end=\"5576\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> To sop it up.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5594\" data-end=\"5643\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5594\" data-end=\"5608\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> And it was—people just loved it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5645\" data-end=\"5691\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5645\" data-end=\"5664\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> No garlic bread for you?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5693\" data-end=\"5907\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5693\" data-end=\"5710\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> No garlic bread. I had the focaccia bread that came with my dish. So that piece of bread came in handy. Was able to sop it up and finish it all. I literally—there was nothing left on my plate.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5909\" data-end=\"5934\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5909\" data-end=\"5923\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Perfect.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"49\" data-end=\"419\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"49\" data-end=\"65\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Well, we had the lasagna also, but the dish that we also had on top of that—we had a lot of people—was the peppercorn steak and the pesto spaghetti that goes on the side. And what’s amazing about the steak—it’s very tender and grilled and everything—is they put peppercorns in the steak, which I think tenderizes it. I’d never had that before.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"421\" data-end=\"470\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"421\" data-end=\"435\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> It’s also a peppercorn au jus.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"472\" data-end=\"514\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"472\" data-end=\"488\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Oh, is that what it is?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"516\" data-end=\"538\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"516\" data-end=\"530\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"540\" data-end=\"707\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"540\" data-end=\"556\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Got it, got it. And I wasn’t expecting that at a Spaghetti Shack, but it was really a nice dish. And we were really thrilled that we ordered that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"709\" data-end=\"767\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"709\" data-end=\"728\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And did you have anything to sip on?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"769\" data-end=\"979\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"769\" data-end=\"785\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> I had this really interesting drink called Lupe Under the Sun, and it was served with a little orange, and it had an umbrella in it, and it was a spicy mango tequila. Really hit the spot.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"981\" data-end=\"1002\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"981\" data-end=\"995\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Wow.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1004\" data-end=\"1077\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1004\" data-end=\"1023\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> You would definitely be on the beach under the sun.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1079\" data-end=\"1117\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1079\" data-end=\"1095\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> For sure, for sure.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1119\" data-end=\"1153\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1119\" data-end=\"1138\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And dessert?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1155\" data-end=\"1637\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1155\" data-end=\"1171\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> They have two off-the-menu desserts. There are actually no desserts on the menu, but we saw two desserts go by us as we were sitting there. So we, you know, pulled off the waiter and said, “Hey, what are those?” And then they told us it’s this decadent, decadent brownie with two scoops of ice cream, and they have a peanut butter bar with two scoops of ice cream. So when he said, “Look, these are the only two desserts,” we said, “We’ll take them both.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1639\" data-end=\"1661\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1639\" data-end=\"1653\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Yeah!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1663\" data-end=\"1721\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1663\" data-end=\"1682\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> I’m gonna call you my dessert guy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1723\" data-end=\"1804\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1723\" data-end=\"1739\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> I know. I’m your dessert guy. We went all out on the desserts.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1806\" data-end=\"1874\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1806\" data-end=\"1825\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Mm-hmm. And you did not have dessert, did you?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1876\" data-end=\"1910\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1876\" data-end=\"1893\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> No, I did not.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1912\" data-end=\"1975\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1912\" data-end=\"1931\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Okay. You did not see the desserts go by?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1977\" data-end=\"2000\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1977\" data-end=\"1994\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> No.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2002\" data-end=\"2044\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2002\" data-end=\"2018\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> They’re off-menu, so…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2046\" data-end=\"2111\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2046\" data-end=\"2065\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Think of the calories you saved yourself.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2113\" data-end=\"2591\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2113\" data-end=\"2130\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> Oh, lots. Although I think I made up with it with the wine because I absolutely had wine with my dinner. And I actually made it for happy hour, which was nice. I went on a Tuesday. So what I didn’t realize was that on Tuesdays, kids eat free. And I just kept seeing all these little kids coming. I’m like, “Oh, they’re cute.” I’m all, “Oh, there’s a lot of them.” And then I go, “Oh, it’s…” you know, they said, “Yes, it’s Kids Eat Free night.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2593\" data-end=\"2730\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2593\" data-end=\"2612\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> That’s a beautiful thing to have in that neighborhood, especially with the cost of food and taking your family out.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2732\" data-end=\"2763\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2732\" data-end=\"2749\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> Absolutely.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2765\" data-end=\"2787\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2765\" data-end=\"2779\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2789\" data-end=\"2881\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2789\" data-end=\"2808\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> And you go back repeatedly, so you obviously feel the prices are fair?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2883\" data-end=\"3053\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2883\" data-end=\"2897\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> I do, and I don’t always finish my meal. So sometimes it’s two meals, so even more bang for your buck. It’s a comforting food and a comforting place.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3055\" data-end=\"3263\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3055\" data-end=\"3074\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> All right, if you would like to try Emmy’s Spaghetti Shack, it’s located on Mission Street in San Francisco, and the average dinner tab per person without drinks is around \u003cstrong data-start=\"3253\" data-end=\"3260\">$50\u003c/strong>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3265\" data-end=\"3522\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3265\" data-end=\"3284\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Tonya’s a girl after my own heart. Give her a glass of Pinot paired with some globally inspired small plates, and she’s all set for the perfect night out. She’s found her happy place in the heart of Old Oakland at District.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3524\" data-end=\"3545\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3524\" data-end=\"3543\">[music playing]\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3547\" data-end=\"3714\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3547\" data-end=\"3562\">Josn Marsh:\u003c/strong> When you walk into District, it’s so fun, energetic, good food, good conversation. It’s a wonderful place to hang out and enjoy downtown Oakland.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3716\" data-end=\"3751\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3716\" data-end=\"3725\">Host:\u003c/strong> We need a spot for two?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3753\" data-end=\"3807\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3753\" data-end=\"3768\">Josn Marsh:\u003c/strong> All right. Let’s see what we can do.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3809\" data-end=\"4136\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3809\" data-end=\"3824\">Josn Marsh:\u003c/strong> Our original location in San Francisco was solely a wine bar. When we opened up the Oakland location, our concept expanded into a wine and whiskey bar. We do flights of whiskey as well as single portions, and we have a large amount of allocated whiskeys you really can’t find almost anywhere else.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4138\" data-end=\"4172\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4138\" data-end=\"4148\">Guest:\u003c/strong> Cheers to District.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4174\" data-end=\"4201\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4174\" data-end=\"4187\">Guest #2:\u003c/strong> Absolutely.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"4203\" data-end=\"4522\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"4203\" data-end=\"4218\">Josn Marsh:\u003c/strong> Here at District, we do love our strong flavors. 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We have so many regulars who support us. People enjoy coming here after work.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5041\" data-end=\"5065\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5041\" data-end=\"5054\">Guest #3:\u003c/strong> So good.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5067\" data-end=\"5091\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5067\" data-end=\"5080\">Guest #4:\u003c/strong> So good.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5093\" data-end=\"5373\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5093\" data-end=\"5108\">Josn Marsh:\u003c/strong> And then in the evening time, we turn into a more vibrant lounge with exciting music and just a lot of fun entertainment. Walk in on any Friday night, I know half the people at the bar, and they know each other. It’s really a wonderful place to be.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"5375\" data-end=\"5423\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"5375\" data-end=\"5388\">Guest #5:\u003c/strong> That’s the town biz, baby. 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And then there’s this delicious smoked tomato sauce. Oh, my goodness. You have to get that and put it on there. It’s absolutely delicious.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"905\" data-end=\"980\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"905\" data-end=\"924\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Okay, Jeff, what was your experience at District?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"982\" data-end=\"1025\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"982\" data-end=\"996\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Big fan of deviled eggs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1027\" data-end=\"1084\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1027\" data-end=\"1043\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Oh, they have the deviled eggs, yes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1086\" data-end=\"1259\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1086\" data-end=\"1100\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Fermented chili and pickled radish is what’s inside. And it just filled my mouth with experience, flavor, and happiness. Yeah, wonderful way to start.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1261\" data-end=\"1296\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1261\" data-end=\"1280\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> Happy eggs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1298\" data-end=\"1320\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1298\" data-end=\"1312\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1322\" data-end=\"1680\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1322\" data-end=\"1338\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> We had the lamb meatballs with the garlic bread. I don’t know if you’ve tried that, but they were really delicious. You know, lamb can be gamey sometimes, but what they do is they put mint leaves into the lamb. So it really makes it a nice flavor. And then the garlic bread to go with it—it was just the perfect contrast.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"1682\" data-end=\"1718\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"1682\" data-end=\"1699\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> Yes. 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I’m not sure if you guys got a chance to try their pizza.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2404\" data-end=\"2431\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2404\" data-end=\"2420\">Richard Hsu:\u003c/strong> Oh, yes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"2433\" data-end=\"2666\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"2433\" data-end=\"2450\">Tonya Thomas:\u003c/strong> It’s a very simple pizza. It’s on a thin crust. Very cheesy. I love the Margherita and the basil on there, so it’s really good. 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I didn’t know that existed, and now I do.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3546\" data-end=\"3609\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3546\" data-end=\"3565\">Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/strong> They add a nice little pop of herbal…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp data-start=\"3611\" data-end=\"3750\">\u003cstrong data-start=\"3611\" data-end=\"3625\">Jeff Hunt:\u003c/strong> A pop, and that beautiful—yes. So good. 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Bay Area\u003c/em>. Each week, I’ll share my tasting notes about the wine, beer and spirits the guests and I drank on set during the taping of the show.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-23312\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2024/11/1909_Wines-800x1008.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"1008\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2024/11/1909_Wines-800x1008.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2024/11/1909_Wines-1020x1285.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2024/11/1909_Wines-160x202.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2024/11/1909_Wines-768x968.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2024/11/1909_Wines-1219x1536.jpg 1219w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2024/11/1909_Wines-1625x2048.jpg 1625w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2024/11/1909_Wines-1920x2419.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2024/11/1909_Wines-scaled.jpg 2032w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\" />\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://www.adamiprosecco.it/en/\">\u003cspan style=\"color: #339966;\">\u003cstrong>Adami 2022 “Vigneto Giardino” Prosecco Superiore DOCG, Rive di Colbertaldo\u003c/strong>\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cbr />\n\u003cem>Valdobbiadene, Veneto, Italy $30\u003cbr />\n\u003c/em>A stunning sparkler from the highest-quality tier of Prosecco Superiore. Adami has been producing noted Prosecco in northern Italy for more than 90 years. This is the winery’s historic flagship bottling due to its lineage. It hails from a single-vineyard cru from vines nearly a century old. The wine is stylish and crisp, with inviting citrus aromas and nutty intensity. With a price tag of only $30, it is a wine worth twice the price and one to seek out when looking for the best in bubbly.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://dollywines.com/\">\u003cspan style=\"color: #339966;\">\u003cstrong>Dolly 2023 Chardonnay\u003c/strong>\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cbr />\n\u003cem>California $15\u003c/em>\u003cbr />\nVivacious singer Dolly Parton is in the wine game now, bringing her joyful personality to bottlings from still to sparkling. The brand’s goal is to bring friends and family together with well-priced, easy-drinking wines. The deliciously fruit-forward Dolly Chardonnay is a white with a kiss of oaky spiciness and a touch of vibrancy. On the website, they describe the hue of the white as “reminiscent of a morning sun in the Smoky Mountains.” Sounds like a song to me.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://farniente.com/wineries/post-and-beam\">\u003cspan style=\"color: #339966;\">\u003cstrong>Post & Beam 2022 Cabernet Sauvignon\u003c/strong>\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cbr />\n\u003cem>Napa Valley, California $55\u003c/em>\u003cbr />\nAs part of the Far Niente family of wines, Post & Beam takes its inspiration from the historic barns at Nickel & Nickel Winery in Napa Valley. This luscious Cabernet Sauvignon includes a touch of Merlot, Petit Verdot, and Cabernet Franc, adding complexity and depth. Dark fruit notes and a hint of cocoa come through on the nose, with a mouthfeel that is rich and elegant. If you want a classically styled Napa Cabernet Sauvignon without a huge price tag, this beauty is the answer.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Episode Transcript\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/b> A honey of a fried chicken in Lafayette…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Francis Penrose:\u003c/b> And I thought, “Bingo, right there.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/b> …mouthwatering Mexican birria in San Jose…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Piña Bleep:\u003c/b> Bring it on. \u003ci>[Laughs]\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/b> …and a build-your-own hot-pot spot in Oakland.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sonya Holcombe:\u003c/b> I have not stopped thinking about it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/b> Just ahead on “Check, Please! Bay Area.” It’s all about the salsa!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Piña Bleep:\u003c/b> It’s all about the salsa! \u003cem>[Laughter]\u003c/em> \u003cem>[music playing]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/b> Yeah. \u003ci>[Laughs]\u003c/i> Hi, I’m Leslie Sbrocco. Welcome to “Check, Please! Bay Area,” the show where Bay Area residents review and talk about their favorite restaurants. We have three guests, and each one recommends one of their favorite spots, and the other two go check them out to see what they think. Joining me at the “Check, Please!” table today — VP of sales Francis Penrose, tattoo artist and karaoke host Piña Bleep, and communications professional Sonya Holcombe. Welcome, everyone. Are you ready for a show?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Piña Bleep:\u003c/b> Yes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sonya Holcombe:\u003c/b> So happy to be here.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/b> Whenever Sonya gets asked, “Let’s do lunch” by her friends, she knows exactly where to meet up. For more than a decade, she’s found the perfect midday retreat at a warm and welcoming hometown hangout. Located in Lafayette, it’s The Hideout Kitchen and Café.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>JB Balingit\u003c/strong>: What you drinking? \u003cem>[music playing]\u003c/em> The Hideout Kitchen is a place that feels familiar. It’s comfortable when you walk in, whether it be the first time or your 100th time, you’ll find some familiarity with the people the hospitality and the food,\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Woman #1:\u003c/strong> The texture, the pesto.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Woman #2:\u003c/strong> So good. \u003cem>[music playing]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>JB Balingit:\u003c/strong> Our menu is a reflection of my culinary upbringing. There’s a lot of influence of my childhood. Spanish Filipino-style cooking. Lots of stewing, lots of braising, lots of grilling. And a lot of seafood. But it’s also a reflection of my career in the Bay Area as a chef for the last 15 years. I found my lane. And I would call it California comfort food. When we first opened, I really needed a signature dish, which was our waffle sandwich. Two waffles with a country-fried steak, some cheese, an over-easy egg, country gravy… Wish I could tell you what is in all this, but I won’t. …and some powdered sugar and a nugget of butter. All right, brother, And we ask you to eat it with a little bit of syrup and Tabasco.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Woman:\u003c/strong> It’s good.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>JB Balingit:\u003c/strong> I’m having fun with some of our seasonal items, like our pork chop is delicious right now. The tuna melt panini you can’t go wrong with, Our porchetta on polenta is one of my favorites. You know, people talk about the vibe a lot when they come into our restaurants, and I love music, it’s my first love. And I love a lot of independent artists, I love a lot of mainstream R&B. And so the energy in the music plays a big part of the overall vibe. Thank you, brother. I hope that when you dine here, you feel the sense of community, because California comfort food encompasses so many different cultures. And no matter what culture you belong to or what ethnicity you belong to, you’ll find something that feels like home to you here.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/b> So you’ve been going to this place, Sonya, for over a decade.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sonya Holcombe:\u003c/b> Yes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/b> And the reason why is…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sonya Holcombe:\u003c/b> So one of the things that originally brought me into the restaurant was that I heard that the owner was from the Philippines, and although not a Filipino restaurant, my mom’s from the Philippines, so I was intrigued by that. And then the mixture of that with the ambiance, the atmosphere of it being just this elevated comfort-food vibe, it was just a home run for me.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/b> All right, so what do you start with?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sonya Holcombe:\u003c/b> My favorite starter is the kale and pancetta salad. When it comes out, it has this fluffy, billowy pile of parmesan on top, crispy chickpeas, and it has apples and apricots that give it that sweet balance. And fresh kale, broccoli.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/b> Is it a big salad or is it small?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sonya Holcombe:\u003c/b> it’s very big, so you can definitely share it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Piña Bleep:\u003c/b> I loved the mascarpone toast, and the French bread was toasted really nicely, so it was a nice texture of crunchy bread and buttery mascarpone with some almonds and the truffle honey. Just so many flavors that were really nice. And textures. I’m a big textures person. I love my textures. So having that balance of both, absolutely delicious.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Francis Penrose:\u003c/b> I’m the type of guy that goes straight for the entrée. So I didn’t even go for an appetizer. So I went straight to the honey fried chicken. And in fact the plating was very nice. That kale, I was a little hesitant because I’m not a kale person, right? I always think it’s going to be bitter or something like that, but it was braised. I could have eaten a whole plate of it. Seriously, I could have eaten a whole plate of that side.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/b> You are a kale believer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Francis Penrose:\u003c/b> I am. Absolutely.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Piña Bleep:\u003c/b> “Kale” yeah!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Francis Penrose:\u003c/b> Smashed potatoes were cold. I was just a little surprised at that. Right? But then I cut into that chicken, just hearing the crisp, it was like, okay, here comes the test. I took a bite. The umami flavor of the truffle honey was really good.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sonya Holcombe:\u003c/b> I agree with everything you just said, other than the fact that the smashed potatoes were cold. That’s too bad, but they’re amazing. But the chicken, it’s just that, like, salty, but with the sweet, totally moist. I’ve had it dozens of times and it’s never been a disappointment. It’s always delicious.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/b> Anything else?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sonya Holcombe:\u003c/b> The sweet potato fries are home run. I am not a big sweet potato fry person. I prefer the traditional potatoes. And we actually got both. The crunch on those sweet potato fries were just so perfect. And then inside it’s like this creamy potato. They’re really, really delicious.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Piña Bleep:\u003c/b> I had the baked rigatoni and cheese, which I love cheese. Yeah, it was really good. It was definitely a very homey mac and cheese. And then that crispy breadcrumb on top was just a nice touch.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sonya Holcombe:\u003c/b> And they say “Spanish spices” in the menu. And it’s like adult mac and cheese.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/b> And what about something to drink alongside your meal?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sonya Holcombe:\u003c/b> I usually have a glass of wine. They have a really nice wine list.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Francis Penrose:\u003c/b> I had an Arnold Palmer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/b> Oh, nice.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Francis Penrose:\u003c/b> I take a sip of it and immediately I said, “Why is this Arnold Palmer so good?” \u003cem>[Laughter]\u003c/em> Then he laughed. He says, “Because we make our own lemonade.” And I thought, “Bingo, right there.” So I took a second sip, and of course I finished it on the second sip.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/b> Did you have anything else?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Francis Penrose:\u003c/b> You know, I did, Leslie. I ordered the dessert. And when he mentioned to me that there was a pear tart, I was in the mood for fruit. So I thought, “This will be perfect.” So when they brought it out, I was surprised ’cause it was a few pears on a puff pastry with a few black figs on there. I’m not a fig person, okay?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/b> Ah. Okay.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Francis Penrose:\u003c/b> But it had ice cream on there, it was warm, and it was good. Actually, I want to mention that I went back the following week, and I will go back again because I love their menu, and it makes me want to try more of the stuff, especially the rigatoni that you talked about.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/b> Well, did you feel like you got good value?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Piña Bleep:\u003c/b> I think that the prices were quite fair. I loved all the staff there because when I asked for my check, I went like this, and my partner was like, “That might not be very appropriate.” And so I was like, “Is that appropriate?” I asked.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sonya Holcombe:\u003c/b> Yeah, that’s cute.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Piña Bleep:\u003c/b> And then we were all laughing about it. I did feel like it was more upscale, so I wouldn’t necessarily, personally, go for lunch. But if I’m balling on a budget, I will. And if I’m in Lafayette, maybe so.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/b> Well, go with Francis and he’ll pay.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Francis Penrose:\u003c/b> I’ll take care of you.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Piña Bleep:\u003c/b> Okay, let’s go. \u003cem>[Laughter]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sonya Holcombe:\u003c/b> I’m so happy you guys liked it and enjoyed it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/b> That’s great. Well, if you would like to try The Hideout Kitchen and Café, it’s located on Lafayette Circle in Lafayette, and the average lunch tab per person without drinks is around $45. Francis’s job takes him south of the border nearly every other week. On all those travels, he’s developed an appreciation for the regional cuisine of Tijuana and Guadalajara. In between trips, when he’s hoping to satisfy those cravings, there’s just one spot he thinks is up to the task. Located in San Jose’s Midtown, it’s Tostadas. \u003cem>[music playing]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Woman:\u003c/strong> Grab it, grab it. \u003cem>[music playing]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Victor Garcia:\u003c/strong> Tostadas is always a party.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Carla Garcia:\u003c/strong> Everybody says it’s a vibe because people come and enjoy the moment they walk in.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Victor Garcia:\u003c/strong> \u003cem>[Speaking Spanish]\u003c/em> We started our restaurant in 2019, me and Alex, the two brothers. They call us the Tostadas Brothers. And Carla is amazing. She helps us with our Midtown location.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Carla Garcia:\u003c/strong> So we’re family here. We want you to feel like a family.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Victor Garcia:\u003c/strong> There we go. We decided that you could do a lot with tostadas, from breakfast and lunch to dinner. We do different colors, from a blue corn to a red tostada that’s made out of tomato. We always do double tostada to get the nice crunch. One reason Tostadas got known for is we break the rules toward traditional Mexican food. We try to innovate with our flavors, like our bacon birria burger. You must try it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Woman #1:\u003c/strong> Is that a pizza?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Woman #2:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Carla Garcia:\u003c/strong> We do have our birria pizzadilla. It’s a quesadilla, but it has birria and it’s formed like a pizza, so it’s really, really good. \u003cem>[music playing]\u003c/em> My mom’s name is Maria. She comes by sometimes and makes sure everything’s tasting the same. We know that we’re doing the right thing when she comes and enjoys everything.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Victor Garcia:\u003c/strong> Every cocktail that we created, it’s only created at Tostadas. \u003cem>[music playing]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Carla Garcia:\u003c/strong> We have a drink called mega cantaro, which is more for big parties. They have a whole bottle of tequila. People enjoy seeing the big bottles going into the cantaro.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Victor Garcia:\u003c/strong> Shot on the house.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Woman:\u003c/strong> Holy moly.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Victor Garcia:\u003c/strong> We always say each guest is a family for us.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Child:\u003c/strong> It looks good already, but it’s hot.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Carla Garcia:\u003c/strong> I just want everybody to leave happy from here and just make everybody feel welcome.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/b> So, Francis, you spend a lot of time in Mexico. What is it about Tostadas that makes it so similar to your experiences in Mexico?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Francis Penrose:\u003c/b> The way the food looks, the presentation. And they have such a wide menu. I mean, I’ve had friends order the octopus. It’s beautiful when it comes out. To me, that reminds me clearly of when I go to Guadalajara\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/b> There’s such beautiful food around Guadalajara.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Francis Penrose:\u003c/b> Oh, Guadalajara is wonderful.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/b> Unbelievable.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Francis Penrose:\u003c/b> So I did not know what birria tacos were when I first got in there. So it was a beautiful plate. Three tacos. I could see the beef just oozing out and the cheese, the way they sprinkled the onions and the cilantro on it. And then there’s this birria sauce. And I thought, “Okay, this is kind of like a French dip.” And I bit into it and I was like, “What the heck?” \u003ci>[Laughs]\u003c/i> This thing was just so good.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sonya Holcombe:\u003c/b> I’ve always loved a beef au jus, and it’s just that juicy dipping sauce, and it’s amazing. But I started with the guacamole. Absolutely delicious. It came in like, you know, pestle and mortar. It had four giant homemade chips that were just delicious. So you break them up and you eat the guacamole with them. It had cotija cheese on top with sprouts, radishes. They like radishes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Francis Penrose:\u003c/b> They do.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sonya Holcombe:\u003c/b> And I love radishes, so that was fun for me. It’s a little spice in there and then limes for you to add yourself.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Piña Bleep:\u003c/b> I got these esquites, which is a childhood favorite of mine, which is corn, mayonnaise, cheese, chile. And it was good. It was a nice portion. It was served in the molcajete, which I was like, “Oh! Just like my childhood.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sonya Holcombe:\u003c/b> Is that what it’s called? The molcajete?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Piña Bleep:\u003c/b> Yeah. And I loved that. It really did take me back ’cause that’s where I’m from. I’m from Mexico. So it was really nice to walk into this place and see all these icons like Selena and luchadores with me enjoying dinner. And what I loved was that right when I sat down, they gave me chips and salsa, which, oh, my gosh, I asked for some to take home because it was so delicious. And every time that the waiter came by, I was like, “Another one, please, another.” \u003ci>[Laughs]\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Francis Penrose:\u003c/b> I really like the Pacific catch tostada. It’s just so refreshing. It has the shrimp, it has the crab, the pickled onions. They put it on two tostada shells. I’m the guy that will eat it with just one, and when the stuff falls off, it’s like, okay, I can make a second tostada. But then they have the birria tostadas. It’s that beef. I just love the taste of the beef, and it’s a great tostada.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sonya Holcombe:\u003c/b> Another thing that I ordered was the carne con su jugo, which was this unique, delicious dish which had pieces of beef, pinto beans on the side, and then it had the radishes, the limes, and there was bacon, and it gave you three cheese enchiladas on the side, which you sort of scooped up. Oh!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/b> That’s a big plate.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sonya Holcombe:\u003c/b> It was a big plate, and it was so unusual and delicious.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Piña Bleep:\u003c/b> I started off with the veggie poblano tacos, which had poblano, corn, mushrooms on two corn tortillas, and I wanted more flavor from them. As a vegetarian, sometimes you just want that flavor that a meat plate would have as well. But I did love the presentation and the rest of the food was definitely true to my culture.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/b> What else did you try?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Piña Bleep:\u003c/b> I had the taquitos de papa, and those came with about four taquitos. And that was delicious. Again, the duality of the crispiness of the tortilla with the mashed potatoes inside was really nice. With the salsa. The salsa. \u003cem>[Laughter]\u003c/em> Talk about the salsa.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/b> It’s all about the salsa!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Piña Bleep:\u003c/b> It’s all about the salsa.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Francis Penrose:\u003c/b> The drink menu is amazing. There are so many different drinks. They had a non-alcoholic michelada. It has all that spicy shrimp on there. It has the tamarind stick. That drink was a meal in itself.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sonya Holcombe:\u003c/b> I started with the mango margarita, and there was a tajin rim on it that had a flower. It was just beautiful. Very beautiful presentation. I didn’t feel like I was having lunch. I felt like I was having dinner or a cocktail at a nightclub.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/b> Taking a little virtual vacation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sonya Holcombe:\u003c/b> Exactly.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Piña Bleep:\u003c/b> I had the aguas frescas which are longtime favorite of mine because they blend lots of flavors. I had the pineapple mango, which, Piña — I love piña.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/b> Do you ever get dessert?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Francis Penrose:\u003c/b> I’ll tell you, for the first time I ordered the churros. They came out with ice cream on it and some chocolate drizzle on there. Usually I’m too full to order dessert, but I did this because I had my niece and my nephew there. It was very good. I mean, they killed it. They killed it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/b> You got one bite.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Francis Penrose:\u003c/b> I got one bite out of it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Victor Garcia:\u003c/strong> \u003cem>[Speaking Spanish]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Piña Bleep:\u003c/b> The staff was amazing. Everybody there was just so kind and so nice. And I’m a sucker for good service. I love when people are welcoming because it makes me feel like I’m supposed to be there.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/b> Makes a difference, doesn’t it?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Francis Penrose:\u003c/b> It does. Absolutely does.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/b> If you would like to try Tostadas, it’s located on San Carlos Street in San Jose, and the average tab per person without drinks is around $35. Remember those Choose Your Own Adventure books we all read as kids? Well, that’s pretty much how you order off the menu at Piña’s favorite place. With dozens of ingredients to choose from, there’s no end to the customizable hot pots that diners can dream up. Located in Oakland, it’s Pixiu Mala Hongtang. \u003cem>[music playing]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Summer Min:\u003c/strong> The name is Pixiu Mala Hongtang comes from the Chinese mythical animals. Pixiu brings wealth and good fortune. Pixiu Mala Hongtang is a make-your-own-bowl-style restaurant. We have two options — soup and stir-fry. \u003cem>[music playing]\u003c/em> Both are really good.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Woman #1:\u003c/strong> Hello!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Woman #2:\u003c/strong> Hi!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Summer Min:\u003c/strong> Our salad bar is really fresh. When customer comes in, they pick the ingredients they want, and then we bring it to our kitchen and we cook it. \u003cem>[music playing]\u003c/em> We have about 40 ingredients. So I’m not sure how many combinations that you can make, but it’s a lot. Some people come to the restaurant and then they ask me, “Is it spicy?” Then I say, “If you don’t like spicy, I suggest the mala tang.” You can choose the spicy to level four. For the level four, it makes me sweat. A lot. If customer chooses spice level four, I always keep watching them. Then I bring them like a banana milk. Tanghulu is a Chinese dessert. We have many types of tanghulu. American doesn’t think tomato is a fruit, but in Korea tomato is a fruit with the sugar. So it’s not shocking for us. But please just come to try it because it’s actually really good. I hope everyone tries mala tang. I hope they had fun when they pick the ingredients themselves. Like customer feels more special because the food is only for them.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/b> All right, hot pots are a thing. It is so much fun to go to a hot pot restaurant.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Piña Bleep:\u003c/b> My friends and I have a running joke of calling it Soup Palace because it is really the royalty of soup.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Francis Penrose:\u003c/b> Yeah. It is.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Piña Bleep:\u003c/b> You get to choose what you want. I’m kind of a picky eater, so having that opportunity to choose everything and know what’s going into it and being cooked so perfectly all into one beautiful pot of soup or stir-fry, it’s amazing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/b> So with all those ways to customize it, do you tend to stick with one sort of set of ingredients, or do you mix it up? I do mix it up because they definitely have different vegetarian options, but I do definitely go with my all-stars, which are the lotus root, the broccoli, pumpkin slices, cheese rice cakes. I love to garnish it with cilantro. And then where I get adventurous is the spice level because sometimes I’m like, “No, I’m good on spice.” And sometimes I’m like, “Bring it on.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/b> Have you done hot pot?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sonya Holcombe:\u003c/b> I had never done it before.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/b> A hot-pot spot.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sonya Holcombe:\u003c/b> A hot-pot spot. Never been to a hot-pot spot. And I love customizing, so I was in my element. I had the bok choy, broccoli, spinach, tons of different mushrooms. All these mushrooms I had never even heard of before, and I threw a bunch of those in. And then, because I’m not a vegetarian, I added the bacon. Turned it into a soup, which is called the mala tang, with the clear glass noodles. And I had it sort of medium spicy, which I think I might go down a little bit because it was still very spicy. But it was delicious. Really, really good.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/b> Okay, and Francis, what about you?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Francis Penrose:\u003c/b> Well, I’ll tell you, any place you can construct your own meal I love. And they were very kind and explaining how everything was. I should have listened when they said they charge by the pound because I didn’t even think about it, right?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/b> Two pounds later.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Francis Penrose:\u003c/b> So I came there with a friend, and her and I just pretty much just put everything in there. On the stir-fry, In terms of the proteins, I put the shrimp. They even had the imitation crab. I love an imitation crab, I’ll admit that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sonya Holcombe:\u003c/b> I do too.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Francis Penrose:\u003c/b> I’ll admit that. And I added beef. I love a glass noodle. I added the ramen, and I actually added the udon too as well. We sat down and when the food came out, this enormous bowl came out and I was like, “Oh, my God, this will feed a family of four or five.” The spicy level — I used to love to cry when I eat, okay? This, at the medium, it was spicy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sonya Holcombe:\u003c/b> Yeah. It’s spicy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/b> How many times did it take you to figure out not to overload it?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Piña Bleep:\u003c/b> Oh, well, that’s another thing that my friends and I always do. “How much did you spend? How much did you spend?” And whoever gets the lowest, you know, has to buy a round of drinks.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/b> \u003ci>[Laughs]\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sonya Holcombe:\u003c/b> Cute.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Piña Bleep:\u003c/b> But that’s what I love the most about this place, is that I’ve had friends go and spend $8 and get a good amount of soup. So the range of prices and the flexibility is so necessary for people living in the Bay Area.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/b> Absolutely.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sonya Holcombe:\u003c/b> And it’s so healthy. You can add so many vegetables in there. And then the savory broth that they add to the soup is just so delicious. We also had the gyoza as a side. They were so crispy, deep-fried with a beautiful soy sauce. I will definitely be going back.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Francis Penrose:\u003c/b> Oh, yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/b> What about drinks?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Piña Bleep:\u003c/b> So for drinks they have soju. And it’s really cute because they have the soju mascot everywhere. It’s a little frog/ But they also have this very interesting drink called Sac Sac, which is orange juice pulp as a drink.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/b> Is it very thick?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Piña Bleep:\u003c/b> It’s a bit thick, yeah. But it’s just very refreshing. And you have many different options for dessert. The tanghulu is viral sensation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Francis Penrose:\u003c/b> It’s beautiful.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Piña Bleep:\u003c/b> It’s candied fruit on a stick. And the crunch you get when you bite into that, and then the juice that comes out from the fruit is…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sonya Holcombe:\u003c/b> I can’t describe how delicious it was. I have not stopped thinking about it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Francis Penrose:\u003c/b> Those blueberries popped in my mouth. And the sugar wasn’t as sweet as I thought. It’s a hard shell, but it breaks nicely in there.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sonya Holcombe:\u003c/b> I had grapes and strawberries.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Piña Bleep:\u003c/b> I love the grapes one.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sonya Holcombe:\u003c/b> Were just so delicious. And the gentleman there was saying that they make it every few hours fresh.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Francis Penrose:\u003c/b> That dessert, it’s picture-perfect.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sonya Holcombe:\u003c/b> It’s like artwork.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Francis Penrose:\u003c/b> Yeah. Yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Piña Bleep:\u003c/b> Edible art. \u003ci>[Laughs]\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/b> Well, speaking of art, I have to have you tell us, Piña, about your shoes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Piña Bleep:\u003c/b> I call these shoes my “chee-toes” ’cause there’s cheese and there’s toes. \u003cem>[Laughter]\u003c/em> One of my favorite memories is I took a bunch of friends for Halloween, and that was so much fun, and I wore these shoes. A little homage to one of my favorite memories there.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/b> All right, if you would like to try Pixiu Mala Hongtang, it’s located on Telegraph Avenue in Oakland, and the average tab per person without drinks is around $30. And now reporter Cecilia Phillips heads to Alameda for some peculiar sights and gothic bites. \u003cem>[music playing]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Garcia: The Menagerie Oddities Market, it’s a place for people to come together in all things odd. We like to call it an ODDventure.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Man:\u003c/strong> You want to play air hockey?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Connstance Garcia:\u003c/strong> Today we’re celebrating World Goth Day, and we’re on the USS Hornet in Alameda.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/b> Why the USS Hornet? This spot has some history.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Connstance Garcia:\u003c/strong> It’s supposed to be haunted.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/b> What is goth?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Connstance Garcia:\u003c/strong> Goth was born out of the post-punk era. We bond over music.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Woman:\u003c/strong> Whoo!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Connstance Garcia:\u003c/strong> We bond over fashion, art, and community.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Woman:\u003c/strong> 30 altogether.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Connstance Garcia:\u003c/strong> Everything here is handmade by goth artists. You’ll find taxidermy, skulls, tarot readers. So everything that you want to find that’s goth, you can find it here.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/b> And goth food.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Connstance Garcia:\u003c/strong> Goth food.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Woman:\u003c/strong> That’s really good.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jennifer Bechkoff:\u003c/strong> In a coffin? Okay. I sell coffee in a coffin and I donate to bat conservation. So because, you know, bats are a keystone species and they’re being threatened right now.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Larisa Chapman:\u003c/strong> Hi, ladies. I’m Big Top Sweet Shop, and I do hand-painted, responsibly sourced chocolates.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/b> I heard you both have a collaboration today, though. Are you working together?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Larisa Chapman:\u003c/strong> Coffee and chocolate are a natural thing to go together. And so I do have an anatomically correct heart. And I actually use that all the time. It’s one of my regular shapes, ’cause creepy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/b> All right.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Larisa Chapman:\u003c/strong> Cheers, everybody.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/b> Oh, my gosh. It, like, exploded with coffee inside. It’s, like, liquidy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Larisa Chapman:\u003c/strong> Surprise.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/b> It’s an amazing collaboration.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Woman:\u003c/strong> There you go, my love.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Man:\u003c/strong> Thank you.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Woman:\u003c/strong> That’s the raven’s eye.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/b> What goes into it?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Woman:\u003c/strong> Vodka, some Malibu rum, blue curacao, also raspberry liqueur. And then there’s a gummy eyeball.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/b> Mm!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Woman:\u003c/strong> That’s the raven. \u003cem>[Woman laughs]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Mac Senour:\u003c/strong> We’re Phileas Fogg’s Fabulous Confections. 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We have moms, dads, grandmas, grandpas, teachers, lawyers, doctors.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/b> Goth is for everyone.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Connstance Garcia:\u003c/strong> Goth is for everyone.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/b> Alive or dead. \u003cem>[Laughter]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/b> I have to thank my terrific guests on this week’s show. Frances Francis Penrose, who always says sí to the birria tacos at Tostadas in San Jose. Piña Bleep, who likes to mix it up at Pixiu Mala Hongtang in Oakland. And Sonya Holcombe, whose happy place is The Hideout Kitchen and Café in Lafayette. Join us next time when three more guests will recommend their favorite spots right here on “Check, Please! Bay Area.” I’m Leslie Sbrocco, and I’ll see you then. Cheers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Together:\u003c/strong> Cheers!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/b> Whoo! 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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>\u003cem>Check, Please! Bay Area, \u003c/em>season 19, episode 9, airs Thursday, November 7, at 7:30 pm, on KQED 9. See other \u003ca href=\"http://www.kqed.org/tv/programs/index.jsp?pgmid=14084\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">television airtimes\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Our culinary exploration begins in Lafayette at \u003cstrong>The Hideout Kitchen\u003c/strong>, where diners enjoy elevated comfort food in a cozy, hidden gem of a restaurant, featuring dishes like mascarpone toast and honey fried chicken. Next, the journey takes us to San Jose at \u003cstrong>Tostadas\u003c/strong>, a lively spot known for its creative and colorful Mexican fare, with standout dishes like tostadas de birria and birria bacon cheeseburgers. Then, it’s off to Oakland at \u003cstrong>Pixiu Mala Hongtang\u003c/strong>, where the bold, numbing spices of Sichuan cuisine are showcased in fiery hot pots, offering a customizable dining experience featuring dozens of different ingredients. Finally, reporter Cecilia Phillips visits \u003cstrong>The Menagerie Oddities Market\u003c/strong> onboard the USS Hornet in Alameda for the World Goth Day Festival, where she explores a quirky market filled with curious and unusual finds, from taxidermy to artisanal food creations that delight and surprise.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_23279\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-23279\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2024/10/CPBA_1909_Guests-800x533.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2024/10/CPBA_1909_Guests-800x533.png 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2024/10/CPBA_1909_Guests-1020x680.png 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2024/10/CPBA_1909_Guests-160x107.png 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2024/10/CPBA_1909_Guests-768x512.png 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2024/10/CPBA_1909_Guests-1536x1024.png 1536w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2024/10/CPBA_1909_Guests.png 1620w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\" />\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Host Leslie Sbrocco joins guests Francis Penrose, Sonya Holcombe and Piña Bleep from KQED in San Francisco.\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Get Restaurant Information:\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.hideoutkitchen.com/\">\u003cstrong>The Hideout Kitchen\u003c/strong> (Lafayette)\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"http://tostadassj.com/\">\u003cstrong>Tostadas\u003c/strong> (San Jose)\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"http://pixiufnc.com/layout/eng/home.php?go=main\">\u003cstrong>Pixiu Mala Hongtang\u003c/strong> (Oakland)\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"http://themenagerieodditiesmarket.com/\">\u003cstrong>The Menagerie Oddities Market\u003c/strong> (Alameda)\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_20123\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-20123\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2019/04/Leslie-Headshot-Smokey-copy-800x540.jpg\" alt=\"Host Leslie Sbrocco sipping wine\" width=\"800\" height=\"540\" />\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Host Leslie Sbrocco sipping wine \u003ccite>(Courtesy of Leslie Sbrocco)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>My name is Leslie Sbrocco, and I’m the \u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/checkplease/host-biography/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">host\u003c/a> of \u003cem>Check, Please! Bay Area\u003c/em>. Each week, I’ll share my tasting notes about the wine, beer and spirits the guests and I drank on set during the taping of the show.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-23312\" src=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2024/11/1909_Wines-800x1008.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"1008\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2024/11/1909_Wines-800x1008.jpg 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2024/11/1909_Wines-1020x1285.jpg 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2024/11/1909_Wines-160x202.jpg 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2024/11/1909_Wines-768x968.jpg 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2024/11/1909_Wines-1219x1536.jpg 1219w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2024/11/1909_Wines-1625x2048.jpg 1625w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2024/11/1909_Wines-1920x2419.jpg 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2024/11/1909_Wines-scaled.jpg 2032w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\" />\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://www.adamiprosecco.it/en/\">\u003cspan style=\"color: #339966;\">\u003cstrong>Adami 2022 “Vigneto Giardino” Prosecco Superiore DOCG, Rive di Colbertaldo\u003c/strong>\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cbr />\n\u003cem>Valdobbiadene, Veneto, Italy $30\u003cbr />\n\u003c/em>A stunning sparkler from the highest-quality tier of Prosecco Superiore. Adami has been producing noted Prosecco in northern Italy for more than 90 years. This is the winery’s historic flagship bottling due to its lineage. It hails from a single-vineyard cru from vines nearly a century old. The wine is stylish and crisp, with inviting citrus aromas and nutty intensity. With a price tag of only $30, it is a wine worth twice the price and one to seek out when looking for the best in bubbly.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://dollywines.com/\">\u003cspan style=\"color: #339966;\">\u003cstrong>Dolly 2023 Chardonnay\u003c/strong>\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cbr />\n\u003cem>California $15\u003c/em>\u003cbr />\nVivacious singer Dolly Parton is in the wine game now, bringing her joyful personality to bottlings from still to sparkling. The brand’s goal is to bring friends and family together with well-priced, easy-drinking wines. The deliciously fruit-forward Dolly Chardonnay is a white with a kiss of oaky spiciness and a touch of vibrancy. On the website, they describe the hue of the white as “reminiscent of a morning sun in the Smoky Mountains.” Sounds like a song to me.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://farniente.com/wineries/post-and-beam\">\u003cspan style=\"color: #339966;\">\u003cstrong>Post & Beam 2022 Cabernet Sauvignon\u003c/strong>\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003cbr />\n\u003cem>Napa Valley, California $55\u003c/em>\u003cbr />\nAs part of the Far Niente family of wines, Post & Beam takes its inspiration from the historic barns at Nickel & Nickel Winery in Napa Valley. This luscious Cabernet Sauvignon includes a touch of Merlot, Petit Verdot, and Cabernet Franc, adding complexity and depth. Dark fruit notes and a hint of cocoa come through on the nose, with a mouthfeel that is rich and elegant. If you want a classically styled Napa Cabernet Sauvignon without a huge price tag, this beauty is the answer.\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2>Episode Transcript\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/b> A honey of a fried chicken in Lafayette…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Francis Penrose:\u003c/b> And I thought, “Bingo, right there.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/b> …mouthwatering Mexican birria in San Jose…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Piña Bleep:\u003c/b> Bring it on. \u003ci>[Laughs]\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/b> …and a build-your-own hot-pot spot in Oakland.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sonya Holcombe:\u003c/b> I have not stopped thinking about it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/b> Just ahead on “Check, Please! Bay Area.” It’s all about the salsa!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Piña Bleep:\u003c/b> It’s all about the salsa! \u003cem>[Laughter]\u003c/em> \u003cem>[music playing]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/b> Yeah. \u003ci>[Laughs]\u003c/i> Hi, I’m Leslie Sbrocco. Welcome to “Check, Please! Bay Area,” the show where Bay Area residents review and talk about their favorite restaurants. We have three guests, and each one recommends one of their favorite spots, and the other two go check them out to see what they think. Joining me at the “Check, Please!” table today — VP of sales Francis Penrose, tattoo artist and karaoke host Piña Bleep, and communications professional Sonya Holcombe. Welcome, everyone. Are you ready for a show?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Piña Bleep:\u003c/b> Yes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sonya Holcombe:\u003c/b> So happy to be here.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/b> Whenever Sonya gets asked, “Let’s do lunch” by her friends, she knows exactly where to meet up. For more than a decade, she’s found the perfect midday retreat at a warm and welcoming hometown hangout. Located in Lafayette, it’s The Hideout Kitchen and Café.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>JB Balingit\u003c/strong>: What you drinking? \u003cem>[music playing]\u003c/em> The Hideout Kitchen is a place that feels familiar. It’s comfortable when you walk in, whether it be the first time or your 100th time, you’ll find some familiarity with the people the hospitality and the food,\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Woman #1:\u003c/strong> The texture, the pesto.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Woman #2:\u003c/strong> So good. \u003cem>[music playing]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>JB Balingit:\u003c/strong> Our menu is a reflection of my culinary upbringing. There’s a lot of influence of my childhood. Spanish Filipino-style cooking. Lots of stewing, lots of braising, lots of grilling. And a lot of seafood. But it’s also a reflection of my career in the Bay Area as a chef for the last 15 years. I found my lane. And I would call it California comfort food. When we first opened, I really needed a signature dish, which was our waffle sandwich. Two waffles with a country-fried steak, some cheese, an over-easy egg, country gravy… Wish I could tell you what is in all this, but I won’t. …and some powdered sugar and a nugget of butter. All right, brother, And we ask you to eat it with a little bit of syrup and Tabasco.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Woman:\u003c/strong> It’s good.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>JB Balingit:\u003c/strong> I’m having fun with some of our seasonal items, like our pork chop is delicious right now. The tuna melt panini you can’t go wrong with, Our porchetta on polenta is one of my favorites. You know, people talk about the vibe a lot when they come into our restaurants, and I love music, it’s my first love. And I love a lot of independent artists, I love a lot of mainstream R&B. And so the energy in the music plays a big part of the overall vibe. Thank you, brother. I hope that when you dine here, you feel the sense of community, because California comfort food encompasses so many different cultures. And no matter what culture you belong to or what ethnicity you belong to, you’ll find something that feels like home to you here.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/b> So you’ve been going to this place, Sonya, for over a decade.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sonya Holcombe:\u003c/b> Yes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/b> And the reason why is…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sonya Holcombe:\u003c/b> So one of the things that originally brought me into the restaurant was that I heard that the owner was from the Philippines, and although not a Filipino restaurant, my mom’s from the Philippines, so I was intrigued by that. And then the mixture of that with the ambiance, the atmosphere of it being just this elevated comfort-food vibe, it was just a home run for me.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/b> All right, so what do you start with?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sonya Holcombe:\u003c/b> My favorite starter is the kale and pancetta salad. When it comes out, it has this fluffy, billowy pile of parmesan on top, crispy chickpeas, and it has apples and apricots that give it that sweet balance. And fresh kale, broccoli.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/b> Is it a big salad or is it small?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sonya Holcombe:\u003c/b> it’s very big, so you can definitely share it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Piña Bleep:\u003c/b> I loved the mascarpone toast, and the French bread was toasted really nicely, so it was a nice texture of crunchy bread and buttery mascarpone with some almonds and the truffle honey. Just so many flavors that were really nice. And textures. I’m a big textures person. I love my textures. So having that balance of both, absolutely delicious.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Francis Penrose:\u003c/b> I’m the type of guy that goes straight for the entrée. So I didn’t even go for an appetizer. So I went straight to the honey fried chicken. And in fact the plating was very nice. That kale, I was a little hesitant because I’m not a kale person, right? I always think it’s going to be bitter or something like that, but it was braised. I could have eaten a whole plate of it. Seriously, I could have eaten a whole plate of that side.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/b> You are a kale believer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Francis Penrose:\u003c/b> I am. Absolutely.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Piña Bleep:\u003c/b> “Kale” yeah!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Francis Penrose:\u003c/b> Smashed potatoes were cold. I was just a little surprised at that. Right? But then I cut into that chicken, just hearing the crisp, it was like, okay, here comes the test. I took a bite. The umami flavor of the truffle honey was really good.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sonya Holcombe:\u003c/b> I agree with everything you just said, other than the fact that the smashed potatoes were cold. That’s too bad, but they’re amazing. But the chicken, it’s just that, like, salty, but with the sweet, totally moist. I’ve had it dozens of times and it’s never been a disappointment. It’s always delicious.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/b> Anything else?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sonya Holcombe:\u003c/b> The sweet potato fries are home run. I am not a big sweet potato fry person. I prefer the traditional potatoes. And we actually got both. The crunch on those sweet potato fries were just so perfect. And then inside it’s like this creamy potato. They’re really, really delicious.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Piña Bleep:\u003c/b> I had the baked rigatoni and cheese, which I love cheese. Yeah, it was really good. It was definitely a very homey mac and cheese. And then that crispy breadcrumb on top was just a nice touch.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sonya Holcombe:\u003c/b> And they say “Spanish spices” in the menu. And it’s like adult mac and cheese.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/b> And what about something to drink alongside your meal?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sonya Holcombe:\u003c/b> I usually have a glass of wine. They have a really nice wine list.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Francis Penrose:\u003c/b> I had an Arnold Palmer.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/b> Oh, nice.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Francis Penrose:\u003c/b> I take a sip of it and immediately I said, “Why is this Arnold Palmer so good?” \u003cem>[Laughter]\u003c/em> Then he laughed. He says, “Because we make our own lemonade.” And I thought, “Bingo, right there.” So I took a second sip, and of course I finished it on the second sip.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/b> Did you have anything else?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Francis Penrose:\u003c/b> You know, I did, Leslie. I ordered the dessert. And when he mentioned to me that there was a pear tart, I was in the mood for fruit. So I thought, “This will be perfect.” So when they brought it out, I was surprised ’cause it was a few pears on a puff pastry with a few black figs on there. I’m not a fig person, okay?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/b> Ah. Okay.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Francis Penrose:\u003c/b> But it had ice cream on there, it was warm, and it was good. Actually, I want to mention that I went back the following week, and I will go back again because I love their menu, and it makes me want to try more of the stuff, especially the rigatoni that you talked about.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/b> Well, did you feel like you got good value?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Piña Bleep:\u003c/b> I think that the prices were quite fair. I loved all the staff there because when I asked for my check, I went like this, and my partner was like, “That might not be very appropriate.” And so I was like, “Is that appropriate?” I asked.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sonya Holcombe:\u003c/b> Yeah, that’s cute.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Piña Bleep:\u003c/b> And then we were all laughing about it. I did feel like it was more upscale, so I wouldn’t necessarily, personally, go for lunch. But if I’m balling on a budget, I will. And if I’m in Lafayette, maybe so.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/b> Well, go with Francis and he’ll pay.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Francis Penrose:\u003c/b> I’ll take care of you.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Piña Bleep:\u003c/b> Okay, let’s go. \u003cem>[Laughter]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sonya Holcombe:\u003c/b> I’m so happy you guys liked it and enjoyed it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/b> That’s great. Well, if you would like to try The Hideout Kitchen and Café, it’s located on Lafayette Circle in Lafayette, and the average lunch tab per person without drinks is around $45. Francis’s job takes him south of the border nearly every other week. On all those travels, he’s developed an appreciation for the regional cuisine of Tijuana and Guadalajara. In between trips, when he’s hoping to satisfy those cravings, there’s just one spot he thinks is up to the task. Located in San Jose’s Midtown, it’s Tostadas. \u003cem>[music playing]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Woman:\u003c/strong> Grab it, grab it. \u003cem>[music playing]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Victor Garcia:\u003c/strong> Tostadas is always a party.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Carla Garcia:\u003c/strong> Everybody says it’s a vibe because people come and enjoy the moment they walk in.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Victor Garcia:\u003c/strong> \u003cem>[Speaking Spanish]\u003c/em> We started our restaurant in 2019, me and Alex, the two brothers. They call us the Tostadas Brothers. And Carla is amazing. She helps us with our Midtown location.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Carla Garcia:\u003c/strong> So we’re family here. We want you to feel like a family.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Victor Garcia:\u003c/strong> There we go. We decided that you could do a lot with tostadas, from breakfast and lunch to dinner. We do different colors, from a blue corn to a red tostada that’s made out of tomato. We always do double tostada to get the nice crunch. One reason Tostadas got known for is we break the rules toward traditional Mexican food. We try to innovate with our flavors, like our bacon birria burger. You must try it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Woman #1:\u003c/strong> Is that a pizza?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Woman #2:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Carla Garcia:\u003c/strong> We do have our birria pizzadilla. It’s a quesadilla, but it has birria and it’s formed like a pizza, so it’s really, really good. \u003cem>[music playing]\u003c/em> My mom’s name is Maria. She comes by sometimes and makes sure everything’s tasting the same. We know that we’re doing the right thing when she comes and enjoys everything.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Victor Garcia:\u003c/strong> Every cocktail that we created, it’s only created at Tostadas. \u003cem>[music playing]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Carla Garcia:\u003c/strong> We have a drink called mega cantaro, which is more for big parties. They have a whole bottle of tequila. People enjoy seeing the big bottles going into the cantaro.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Victor Garcia:\u003c/strong> Shot on the house.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Woman:\u003c/strong> Holy moly.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Victor Garcia:\u003c/strong> We always say each guest is a family for us.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Child:\u003c/strong> It looks good already, but it’s hot.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Carla Garcia:\u003c/strong> I just want everybody to leave happy from here and just make everybody feel welcome.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/b> So, Francis, you spend a lot of time in Mexico. What is it about Tostadas that makes it so similar to your experiences in Mexico?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Francis Penrose:\u003c/b> The way the food looks, the presentation. And they have such a wide menu. I mean, I’ve had friends order the octopus. It’s beautiful when it comes out. To me, that reminds me clearly of when I go to Guadalajara\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/b> There’s such beautiful food around Guadalajara.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Francis Penrose:\u003c/b> Oh, Guadalajara is wonderful.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/b> Unbelievable.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Francis Penrose:\u003c/b> So I did not know what birria tacos were when I first got in there. So it was a beautiful plate. Three tacos. I could see the beef just oozing out and the cheese, the way they sprinkled the onions and the cilantro on it. And then there’s this birria sauce. And I thought, “Okay, this is kind of like a French dip.” And I bit into it and I was like, “What the heck?” \u003ci>[Laughs]\u003c/i> This thing was just so good.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sonya Holcombe:\u003c/b> I’ve always loved a beef au jus, and it’s just that juicy dipping sauce, and it’s amazing. But I started with the guacamole. Absolutely delicious. It came in like, you know, pestle and mortar. It had four giant homemade chips that were just delicious. So you break them up and you eat the guacamole with them. It had cotija cheese on top with sprouts, radishes. They like radishes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Francis Penrose:\u003c/b> They do.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sonya Holcombe:\u003c/b> And I love radishes, so that was fun for me. It’s a little spice in there and then limes for you to add yourself.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Piña Bleep:\u003c/b> I got these esquites, which is a childhood favorite of mine, which is corn, mayonnaise, cheese, chile. And it was good. It was a nice portion. It was served in the molcajete, which I was like, “Oh! Just like my childhood.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sonya Holcombe:\u003c/b> Is that what it’s called? The molcajete?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Piña Bleep:\u003c/b> Yeah. And I loved that. It really did take me back ’cause that’s where I’m from. I’m from Mexico. So it was really nice to walk into this place and see all these icons like Selena and luchadores with me enjoying dinner. And what I loved was that right when I sat down, they gave me chips and salsa, which, oh, my gosh, I asked for some to take home because it was so delicious. And every time that the waiter came by, I was like, “Another one, please, another.” \u003ci>[Laughs]\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Francis Penrose:\u003c/b> I really like the Pacific catch tostada. It’s just so refreshing. It has the shrimp, it has the crab, the pickled onions. They put it on two tostada shells. I’m the guy that will eat it with just one, and when the stuff falls off, it’s like, okay, I can make a second tostada. But then they have the birria tostadas. It’s that beef. I just love the taste of the beef, and it’s a great tostada.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sonya Holcombe:\u003c/b> Another thing that I ordered was the carne con su jugo, which was this unique, delicious dish which had pieces of beef, pinto beans on the side, and then it had the radishes, the limes, and there was bacon, and it gave you three cheese enchiladas on the side, which you sort of scooped up. Oh!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/b> That’s a big plate.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sonya Holcombe:\u003c/b> It was a big plate, and it was so unusual and delicious.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Piña Bleep:\u003c/b> I started off with the veggie poblano tacos, which had poblano, corn, mushrooms on two corn tortillas, and I wanted more flavor from them. As a vegetarian, sometimes you just want that flavor that a meat plate would have as well. But I did love the presentation and the rest of the food was definitely true to my culture.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/b> What else did you try?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Piña Bleep:\u003c/b> I had the taquitos de papa, and those came with about four taquitos. And that was delicious. Again, the duality of the crispiness of the tortilla with the mashed potatoes inside was really nice. With the salsa. The salsa. \u003cem>[Laughter]\u003c/em> Talk about the salsa.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/b> It’s all about the salsa!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Piña Bleep:\u003c/b> It’s all about the salsa.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Francis Penrose:\u003c/b> The drink menu is amazing. There are so many different drinks. They had a non-alcoholic michelada. It has all that spicy shrimp on there. It has the tamarind stick. That drink was a meal in itself.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sonya Holcombe:\u003c/b> I started with the mango margarita, and there was a tajin rim on it that had a flower. It was just beautiful. Very beautiful presentation. I didn’t feel like I was having lunch. I felt like I was having dinner or a cocktail at a nightclub.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/b> Taking a little virtual vacation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sonya Holcombe:\u003c/b> Exactly.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Piña Bleep:\u003c/b> I had the aguas frescas which are longtime favorite of mine because they blend lots of flavors. I had the pineapple mango, which, Piña — I love piña.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/b> Do you ever get dessert?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Francis Penrose:\u003c/b> I’ll tell you, for the first time I ordered the churros. They came out with ice cream on it and some chocolate drizzle on there. Usually I’m too full to order dessert, but I did this because I had my niece and my nephew there. It was very good. I mean, they killed it. They killed it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/b> You got one bite.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Francis Penrose:\u003c/b> I got one bite out of it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Victor Garcia:\u003c/strong> \u003cem>[Speaking Spanish]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Piña Bleep:\u003c/b> The staff was amazing. Everybody there was just so kind and so nice. And I’m a sucker for good service. I love when people are welcoming because it makes me feel like I’m supposed to be there.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/b> Makes a difference, doesn’t it?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Francis Penrose:\u003c/b> It does. Absolutely does.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/b> If you would like to try Tostadas, it’s located on San Carlos Street in San Jose, and the average tab per person without drinks is around $35. Remember those Choose Your Own Adventure books we all read as kids? Well, that’s pretty much how you order off the menu at Piña’s favorite place. With dozens of ingredients to choose from, there’s no end to the customizable hot pots that diners can dream up. Located in Oakland, it’s Pixiu Mala Hongtang. \u003cem>[music playing]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Summer Min:\u003c/strong> The name is Pixiu Mala Hongtang comes from the Chinese mythical animals. Pixiu brings wealth and good fortune. Pixiu Mala Hongtang is a make-your-own-bowl-style restaurant. We have two options — soup and stir-fry. \u003cem>[music playing]\u003c/em> Both are really good.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Woman #1:\u003c/strong> Hello!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Woman #2:\u003c/strong> Hi!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Summer Min:\u003c/strong> Our salad bar is really fresh. When customer comes in, they pick the ingredients they want, and then we bring it to our kitchen and we cook it. \u003cem>[music playing]\u003c/em> We have about 40 ingredients. So I’m not sure how many combinations that you can make, but it’s a lot. Some people come to the restaurant and then they ask me, “Is it spicy?” Then I say, “If you don’t like spicy, I suggest the mala tang.” You can choose the spicy to level four. For the level four, it makes me sweat. A lot. If customer chooses spice level four, I always keep watching them. Then I bring them like a banana milk. Tanghulu is a Chinese dessert. We have many types of tanghulu. American doesn’t think tomato is a fruit, but in Korea tomato is a fruit with the sugar. So it’s not shocking for us. But please just come to try it because it’s actually really good. I hope everyone tries mala tang. I hope they had fun when they pick the ingredients themselves. Like customer feels more special because the food is only for them.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/b> All right, hot pots are a thing. It is so much fun to go to a hot pot restaurant.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Piña Bleep:\u003c/b> My friends and I have a running joke of calling it Soup Palace because it is really the royalty of soup.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Francis Penrose:\u003c/b> Yeah. It is.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Piña Bleep:\u003c/b> You get to choose what you want. I’m kind of a picky eater, so having that opportunity to choose everything and know what’s going into it and being cooked so perfectly all into one beautiful pot of soup or stir-fry, it’s amazing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/b> So with all those ways to customize it, do you tend to stick with one sort of set of ingredients, or do you mix it up? 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Turned it into a soup, which is called the mala tang, with the clear glass noodles. And I had it sort of medium spicy, which I think I might go down a little bit because it was still very spicy. But it was delicious. Really, really good.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/b> Okay, and Francis, what about you?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Francis Penrose:\u003c/b> Well, I’ll tell you, any place you can construct your own meal I love. And they were very kind and explaining how everything was. I should have listened when they said they charge by the pound because I didn’t even think about it, right?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/b> Two pounds later.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Francis Penrose:\u003c/b> So I came there with a friend, and her and I just pretty much just put everything in there. On the stir-fry, In terms of the proteins, I put the shrimp. They even had the imitation crab. I love an imitation crab, I’ll admit that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sonya Holcombe:\u003c/b> I do too.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Francis Penrose:\u003c/b> I’ll admit that. And I added beef. I love a glass noodle. I added the ramen, and I actually added the udon too as well. We sat down and when the food came out, this enormous bowl came out and I was like, “Oh, my God, this will feed a family of four or five.” The spicy level — I used to love to cry when I eat, okay? This, at the medium, it was spicy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sonya Holcombe:\u003c/b> Yeah. It’s spicy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/b> How many times did it take you to figure out not to overload it?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Piña Bleep:\u003c/b> Oh, well, that’s another thing that my friends and I always do. “How much did you spend? How much did you spend?” And whoever gets the lowest, you know, has to buy a round of drinks.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/b> \u003ci>[Laughs]\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sonya Holcombe:\u003c/b> Cute.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Piña Bleep:\u003c/b> But that’s what I love the most about this place, is that I’ve had friends go and spend $8 and get a good amount of soup. So the range of prices and the flexibility is so necessary for people living in the Bay Area.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/b> Absolutely.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sonya Holcombe:\u003c/b> And it’s so healthy. You can add so many vegetables in there. And then the savory broth that they add to the soup is just so delicious. We also had the gyoza as a side. They were so crispy, deep-fried with a beautiful soy sauce. I will definitely be going back.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Francis Penrose:\u003c/b> Oh, yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/b> What about drinks?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Piña Bleep:\u003c/b> So for drinks they have soju. And it’s really cute because they have the soju mascot everywhere. It’s a little frog/ But they also have this very interesting drink called Sac Sac, which is orange juice pulp as a drink.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/b> Is it very thick?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Piña Bleep:\u003c/b> It’s a bit thick, yeah. But it’s just very refreshing. And you have many different options for dessert. The tanghulu is viral sensation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Francis Penrose:\u003c/b> It’s beautiful.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Piña Bleep:\u003c/b> It’s candied fruit on a stick. And the crunch you get when you bite into that, and then the juice that comes out from the fruit is…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sonya Holcombe:\u003c/b> I can’t describe how delicious it was. I have not stopped thinking about it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Francis Penrose:\u003c/b> Those blueberries popped in my mouth. And the sugar wasn’t as sweet as I thought. It’s a hard shell, but it breaks nicely in there.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sonya Holcombe:\u003c/b> I had grapes and strawberries.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Piña Bleep:\u003c/b> I love the grapes one.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sonya Holcombe:\u003c/b> Were just so delicious. And the gentleman there was saying that they make it every few hours fresh.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Francis Penrose:\u003c/b> That dessert, it’s picture-perfect.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sonya Holcombe:\u003c/b> It’s like artwork.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Francis Penrose:\u003c/b> Yeah. Yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Piña Bleep:\u003c/b> Edible art. \u003ci>[Laughs]\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/b> Well, speaking of art, I have to have you tell us, Piña, about your shoes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Piña Bleep:\u003c/b> I call these shoes my “chee-toes” ’cause there’s cheese and there’s toes. \u003cem>[Laughter]\u003c/em> One of my favorite memories is I took a bunch of friends for Halloween, and that was so much fun, and I wore these shoes. A little homage to one of my favorite memories there.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/b> All right, if you would like to try Pixiu Mala Hongtang, it’s located on Telegraph Avenue in Oakland, and the average tab per person without drinks is around $30. And now reporter Cecilia Phillips heads to Alameda for some peculiar sights and gothic bites. \u003cem>[music playing]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Garcia: The Menagerie Oddities Market, it’s a place for people to come together in all things odd. We like to call it an ODDventure.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Man:\u003c/strong> You want to play air hockey?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Connstance Garcia:\u003c/strong> Today we’re celebrating World Goth Day, and we’re on the USS Hornet in Alameda.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/b> Why the USS Hornet? This spot has some history.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Connstance Garcia:\u003c/strong> It’s supposed to be haunted.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/b> What is goth?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Connstance Garcia:\u003c/strong> Goth was born out of the post-punk era. We bond over music.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Woman:\u003c/strong> Whoo!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Connstance Garcia:\u003c/strong> We bond over fashion, art, and community.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Woman:\u003c/strong> 30 altogether.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Connstance Garcia:\u003c/strong> Everything here is handmade by goth artists. You’ll find taxidermy, skulls, tarot readers. So everything that you want to find that’s goth, you can find it here.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/b> And goth food.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Connstance Garcia:\u003c/strong> Goth food.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Woman:\u003c/strong> That’s really good.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Jennifer Bechkoff:\u003c/strong> In a coffin? Okay. I sell coffee in a coffin and I donate to bat conservation. So because, you know, bats are a keystone species and they’re being threatened right now.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Larisa Chapman:\u003c/strong> Hi, ladies. I’m Big Top Sweet Shop, and I do hand-painted, responsibly sourced chocolates.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/b> I heard you both have a collaboration today, though. Are you working together?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Larisa Chapman:\u003c/strong> Coffee and chocolate are a natural thing to go together. And so I do have an anatomically correct heart. And I actually use that all the time. It’s one of my regular shapes, ’cause creepy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/b> All right.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Larisa Chapman:\u003c/strong> Cheers, everybody.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/b> Oh, my gosh. It, like, exploded with coffee inside. It’s, like, liquidy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Larisa Chapman:\u003c/strong> Surprise.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/b> It’s an amazing collaboration.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Woman:\u003c/strong> There you go, my love.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Man:\u003c/strong> Thank you.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Woman:\u003c/strong> That’s the raven’s eye.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/b> What goes into it?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Woman:\u003c/strong> Vodka, some Malibu rum, blue curacao, also raspberry liqueur. And then there’s a gummy eyeball.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/b> Mm!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Woman:\u003c/strong> That’s the raven. \u003cem>[Woman laughs]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Mac Senour:\u003c/strong> We’re Phileas Fogg’s Fabulous Confections. For the goth event we did goth black donuts and we did a black ice cream with a red sauce on top of it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/b> Well, I’m going to try this. I’ve seen that this is going to make my teeth gothified. All right.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Mac Senour:\u003c/strong> Here we go.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/b> Is it goth?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Mac Senour:\u003c/strong>Oh, absolutely.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Woman:\u003c/strong> Yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/b> Is there any foods that you would love to see get the goth treatment?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Connstance Garcia:\u003c/strong> I love tacos, so I would like to see a black taco. All-black taco.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Man:\u003c/strong> I’d love to see a squid-ink bread used within a pizza. Therefore dark pizza.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Woman:\u003c/strong> A multitude of, like, grays and blacks, frozen yogurt, all different flavors.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Woman #2:\u003c/strong> I need black cake to go with my black ice cream and my black icing. And I want the cake to be red velvet on the inside so it looks like it’s bleeding.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Woman #3:\u003c/strong> Would people want to eat a bowl of black cereal?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/b> 50 shades of black. Woman #2: 50 shades of black.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Woman #3:\u003c/strong> You would call them…\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/b> Fruit Loops, maybe?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Woman #3:\u003c/strong> Sad Loops, I guess? Or \u003ci>[Laughs]\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Connstance Garcia:\u003c/strong> You’d be surprised who is a closet goth. We have moms, dads, grandmas, grandpas, teachers, lawyers, doctors.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/b> Goth is for everyone.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Connstance Garcia:\u003c/strong> Goth is for everyone.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/b> Alive or dead. \u003cem>[Laughter]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/b> I have to thank my terrific guests on this week’s show. Frances Francis Penrose, who always says sí to the birria tacos at Tostadas in San Jose. Piña Bleep, who likes to mix it up at Pixiu Mala Hongtang in Oakland. And Sonya Holcombe, whose happy place is The Hideout Kitchen and Café in Lafayette. Join us next time when three more guests will recommend their favorite spots right here on “Check, Please! Bay Area.” I’m Leslie Sbrocco, and I’ll see you then. Cheers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Together:\u003c/strong> Cheers!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Leslie Sbrocco:\u003c/b> Whoo! Awesome!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Sonya Holcombe:\u003c/b> Cheers. So fun.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Man:\u003c/strong> I like things shaped obscure. Freaky things like bats. Hearts.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/b> Gothified.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Man:\u003c/strong> Gothify it, yeah.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/b> Mozzeria not only supports the deaf community, but they also have fantastic pizzas. They specialize in wood-fired Neapolitan-style pizzas that you can get right off the truck. Sign language. and Neapolitan pizza is their language of love. Look at this. So you eat everything?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Man:\u003c/strong> Yeah. My creature. Dead or alive.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Cecilia Phillips:\u003c/b> Oh, my God.\u003c/p>\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>",
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Then, tucked along the scenic Vallejo shoreline, \u003c/span>\u003cb>Mare Island Brewing Co. Ferry Taproom \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">is home to simple, savory and oh-so-satisfying pub fare, nearly two dozen taps, and unbeatable views of Mare Island. Finally, in Oakland’s Rockridge district, \u003c/span>\u003cb>À Côté \u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">offers eclectic, family-style Mediterranean small plates and a carefully curated list of European wines in an intimate, charming setting. Reporter Cecilia Phillips closes out this week’s episode with a visit to the country’s oldest cheese company, Petaluma’s \u003c/span>\u003cb>Marin French Cheese Co.\u003c/b>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">, for a lesson in cheesemongering, beekeeping and honey harvesting. 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Bay Area host Leslie Sbrocco joins three local guests on set to discuss local restaurants.\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1080\" srcset=\"https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2023/09/1806_CPBA_Baia_MareIslandBrewing_ACote_Guests_LS.png.png 1920w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2023/09/1806_CPBA_Baia_MareIslandBrewing_ACote_Guests_LS.png-800x450.png 800w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2023/09/1806_CPBA_Baia_MareIslandBrewing_ACote_Guests_LS.png-1020x574.png 1020w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2023/09/1806_CPBA_Baia_MareIslandBrewing_ACote_Guests_LS.png-160x90.png 160w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2023/09/1806_CPBA_Baia_MareIslandBrewing_ACote_Guests_LS.png-768x432.png 768w, https://cdn.kqed.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2023/09/1806_CPBA_Baia_MareIslandBrewing_ACote_Guests_LS.png-1536x864.png 1536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Host Leslie Sbrocco joins guests Deb Levine, Mark Snyder and Thomas Brungardt from KQED in San Francisco.\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Get Restaurant Information:\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.baiasf.com/\">\u003cb>Baia Restaurant\u003c/b>\u003c/a> \u003cspan style=\"color: #2b2b2b\">[CLOSED]\u003c/span>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.mareislandbrewingco.com/ferry-taproom\">\u003cb>Mare Island Brewing Co. 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