Chicks in the Perdue hatchery in Salisbury, Md. The company says all its chickens are now raised using "no antibiotics, ever." Photo: Dan Charles/NPR
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Perdue Farms says it has ditched the common practice of injecting antibiotics into eggs that are just about to hatch. And public health advocates are cheering. They've been campaigning against the widespread use of antibiotics in agriculture, arguing that it's adding to the plague of antibiotic-resistant bacteria.
This particular use of antibiotics is ubiquitous but little-known. It happens at hatcheries, which lie at the heart of large-scale chicken production.
Perdue used to inject its fertilized eggs with gentamicin but phased out the practice over 12 years. Photo: Dan Charles/NPR
Hatcheries don't get a lot of attention. From the outside, Perdue's hatchery in Salisbury, Md., is just a simple, one-story cinder block building. What goes on inside, though, is amazing.
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More than 1 million eggs arrive here every week from breeding farms a few hours away in West Virginia. Unlike the eggs you buy in the store, these eggs are fertilized; there are embryos inside.
They go into massive heated incubators for 18 days. Then, when they're almost ready to hatch, they're wheeled out into a hallway. Tray by tray, they go through a vaccination robot.
A bank of needles descends. Each needle punctures an egg and squirts in a bit of fluid: a vaccine against a common chicken virus.
Bruce Stewart-Brown, a veterinarian and senior vice president for Perdue, tells me that the fluid contains a vaccine against Marek's disease, a highly contagious common chicken virus. He points out a tiny hole in each egg, where the needle went in.
When the chicks are almost ready to hatch, they go through a vaccination robot. Photo: Dan Charles/NPR
But that hole is a risk, because the last thing you want is bacteria getting in and infecting the embryo.
That's why, in many hatcheries across the country, these machines also inject an antibiotic called gentamicin, along with the vaccine.
It's even allowed in production of organic chicken.
It used to happen here, but all of Perdue's 15 hatcheries now are off antibiotics.
Jim Perdue, the company's CEO, says that weaning wasn't easy. "You can't do this overnight," he says. "You really got to work hard at it. And that's why it's an exciting thing, because it's the culmination of a lot, a lot of effort."
Getting to this point took 12 years, Perdue says. When they first tried it, a lot of chicks got infections and died.
Stewart-Brown says the company learned, over the following years, how to make sure the hens laying these eggs were healthy, and that their eggs were clean as they arrived at the hatchery. "You can't have dirty eggs coming into the hatchery and be successful at a no-antibiotic hatchery," he says.
According to Stewart-Brown, Perdue's hatcheries are working better now, antibiotic-free, than they ever did before.
At left, CEO Jim Perdue inside the company's hatchery in Salisbury, Md. Photo: Dan Charles/NPR
Public health advocates, such as Gail Hansen, a veterinarian and senior officer with the Pew Charitable Trusts, gave Perdue a round of applause Wednesday. "From the public health point of view, to not use gentamicin in the eggs is a big step," she says.
Hansen and others have been campaigning against the use of antibiotics in farm animals because it can increase the risk that bacteria will evolve to become resistant to antibiotics. This, in turn, can make human infections harder to treat.
Other poultry companies have also stopped using antibiotics at some hatcheries, but Perdue appears to be the first to make all of its hatcheries antibiotic-free.
The government has been pushing meat producers to reduce their antibiotic use in all stages of their animals' lives — not just at the hatchery.
For instance, a few days after eggs go through that vaccination robot, little yellow chicks emerge. Within a few hours, they'll be on their way to farms.
On those farms, some of Perdue's chickens will get antibiotics in their feed — but only ionophores, a class of antibiotics that humans don't take. A few flocks — fewer than 5 percent, Perdue says — are likely to get sick; they may get antibiotics in their water.
But an increasing number will get no antibiotics at all.
Stewart-Brown says the company is still learning how best to grow chickens without antibiotics. It costs more, he says.
But consumers seem willing to pay a little more for chickens that Perdue says were raised using "no antibiotics, ever."
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"content": "\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_87094\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1798px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/bayareabites/wp-content/uploads/sites/24/2014/09/hatchery-3_slide-745a8da86a235a678943bc2f039d8ac427c3261e.jpg\">\u003cimg src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/bayareabites/wp-content/uploads/sites/24/2014/09/hatchery-3_slide-745a8da86a235a678943bc2f039d8ac427c3261e.jpg\" alt='Chicks in the Perdue hatchery in Salisbury, Md. The company says all its chickens are now raised using \"no antibiotics, ever.\" Photo: Dan Charles/NPR' width=\"1798\" height=\"1198\" class=\"size-full wp-image-87094\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Chicks in the Perdue hatchery in Salisbury, Md. The company says all its chickens are now raised using \"no antibiotics, ever.\" Photo: Dan Charles/NPR\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Listen to the Story\u003c/strong> on All Things Considered:\u003cbr>\nhttp://pd.npr.org/anon.npr-mp3/npr/atc/2014/09/20140903_atc_perdue_says_its_hatching_chicks_get_no_antibiotics.mp3\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>by \u003ca href=\"http://www.npr.org/people/143160021/daniel-charles\" target=\"_blank\">Dan Charles\u003c/a>, \u003ca href=\"http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2014/09/03/345315380/perdue-says-its-hatching-chicks-are-off-antibiotics\" target=\"_blank\">The Salt at NPR Food\u003c/a> (9/3/14)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Perdue Farms \u003ca href=\"http://www.perduefarms.com/News_Room/Press_Releases/details.asp?id=1104&title=Perdue%20Foods%20reaches%20milestone%20in%20reducing%20antibiotic%20use,%20sets%20standard%20for%20responsible%20use\">says\u003c/a> it has ditched the common practice of injecting antibiotics into eggs that are just about to hatch. And public health advocates are cheering. They've been campaigning against the widespread use of antibiotics in agriculture, arguing that it's adding to the plague of antibiotic-resistant bacteria.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This particular use of antibiotics is ubiquitous but little-known. It happens at hatcheries, which lie at the heart of large-scale chicken production.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_87095\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1798px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/bayareabites/wp-content/uploads/sites/24/2014/09/hatchery-4_slide-968d697edf8f023cb77ccbcef66b235e89fc36ba.jpg\">\u003cimg src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/bayareabites/wp-content/uploads/sites/24/2014/09/hatchery-4_slide-968d697edf8f023cb77ccbcef66b235e89fc36ba.jpg\" alt=\"Perdue used to inject its fertilized eggs with gentamicin but phased out the practice over 12 years. Photo: Dan Charles/NPR\" width=\"1798\" height=\"1198\" class=\"size-full wp-image-87095\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Perdue used to inject its fertilized eggs with gentamicin but phased out the practice over 12 years. Photo: Dan Charles/NPR\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Hatcheries don't get a lot of attention. From the outside, Perdue's hatchery in Salisbury, Md., is just a simple, one-story cinder block building. What goes on \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMhmmPjF478\">inside\u003c/a>, though, is amazing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>More than 1 million eggs arrive here every week from breeding farms a few hours away in West Virginia. Unlike the eggs you buy in the store, these eggs are fertilized; there are embryos inside.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>They go into massive heated incubators for 18 days. Then, when they're almost ready to hatch, they're wheeled out into a hallway. Tray by tray, they go through a vaccination robot.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A bank of needles descends. Each needle punctures an egg and squirts in a bit of fluid: a vaccine against a common chicken virus.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://www.linkedin.com/pub/bruce-stewart-brown/49/a80/195\">Bruce Stewart-Brown\u003c/a>, a veterinarian and senior vice president for Perdue, tells me that the fluid contains a vaccine against \u003ca href=\"http://www.thepoultrysite.com/diseaseinfo/90/mareks-disease\">Marek's disease\u003c/a>, a highly contagious common chicken virus. He points out a tiny hole in each egg, where the needle went in.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_87096\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1668px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/bayareabites/wp-content/uploads/sites/24/2014/09/hatchery-1_slide-75255d7d2c567bc0a7d824366d6891dc4640443b.jpg\">\u003cimg src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/bayareabites/wp-content/uploads/sites/24/2014/09/hatchery-1_slide-75255d7d2c567bc0a7d824366d6891dc4640443b.jpg\" alt=\"When the chicks are almost ready to hatch, they go through a vaccination robot. Photo: Dan Charles/NPR\" width=\"1668\" height=\"1112\" class=\"size-full wp-image-87096\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">When the chicks are almost ready to hatch, they go through a vaccination robot. Photo: Dan Charles/NPR\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>But that hole is a risk, because the last thing you want is bacteria getting in and infecting the embryo.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That's why, in many hatcheries across the country, these machines also inject an antibiotic called gentamicin, along with the vaccine.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It's even \u003ca href=\"http://www.motherjones.com/tom-philpott/2014/01/organic-chicken-and-egg-antibiotics-edition\">allowed\u003c/a> in production of organic chicken.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It used to happen here, but all of Perdue's 15 hatcheries now are off antibiotics.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"http://www.perduefarms.com/Our_Story/Three_Generations/\">Jim Perdue\u003c/a>, the company's CEO, says that weaning wasn't easy. \"You can't do this overnight,\" he says. \"You really got to work hard at it. And that's why it's an exciting thing, because it's the culmination of a lot, a lot of effort.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Getting to this point took 12 years, Perdue says. When they first tried it, a lot of chicks got infections and died.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Stewart-Brown says the company learned, over the following years, how to make sure the hens laying these eggs were healthy, and that their eggs were clean as they arrived at the hatchery. \"You can't have dirty eggs coming into the hatchery and be successful at a no-antibiotic hatchery,\" he says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>According to Stewart-Brown, Perdue's hatcheries are working better now, antibiotic-free, than they ever did before.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_87097\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 1779px\">\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/bayareabites/wp-content/uploads/sites/24/2014/09/hatchery-2_slide-49ed18901f3dd8e91079d71d74befe2f5f89b7c6.jpg\">\u003cimg src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/bayareabites/wp-content/uploads/sites/24/2014/09/hatchery-2_slide-49ed18901f3dd8e91079d71d74befe2f5f89b7c6.jpg\" alt=\"At left, CEO Jim Perdue inside the company's hatchery in Salisbury, Md. Photo: Dan Charles/NPR\" width=\"1779\" height=\"1186\" class=\"size-full wp-image-87097\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">At left, CEO Jim Perdue inside the company's hatchery in Salisbury, Md. Photo: Dan Charles/NPR\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Public health advocates, such as \u003ca href=\"http://www.pewtrusts.org/en/about/experts/gail-hansen\">Gail Hansen\u003c/a>, a veterinarian and senior officer with the Pew Charitable Trusts, gave Perdue a round of applause Wednesday. \"From the public health point of view, to not use gentamicin in the eggs is a big step,\" she says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Hansen and others have been campaigning against the use of antibiotics in farm animals because it can increase the risk that bacteria will evolve to become \u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/bayareabites/2013/08/29/antibiotic-use-on-the-farm-are-we-flying-blind/\">resistant to antibiotics\u003c/a>. This, in turn, can make human infections harder to treat.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Other poultry companies have also stopped using antibiotics at some hatcheries, but Perdue appears to be the first to make all of its hatcheries antibiotic-free.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The government \u003ca href=\"http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2013/12/11/250239604/drug-companies-accept-fda-plan-to-phase-out-some-animal-antibiotic-uses\">has been pushing\u003c/a> meat producers to reduce their antibiotic use in all stages of their animals' lives — not just at the hatchery.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For instance, a few days after eggs go through that vaccination robot, little yellow chicks emerge. Within a few hours, they'll be on their way to farms.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On those farms, some of Perdue's chickens will get antibiotics in their feed — but only ionophores, a class of antibiotics that humans don't take. A few flocks — fewer than 5 percent, Perdue says — are likely to get sick; they may get antibiotics in their water.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But an increasing number will get no antibiotics at all.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Stewart-Brown says the company is still learning how best to grow chickens without antibiotics. It costs more, he says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But consumers\u003ca href=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/bayareabites/2014/02/19/americans-want-antibiotic-free-chicken-and-the-industry-is-listening/\"> seem willing to pay\u003c/a> a little more for chickens that Perdue says were raised using \"no antibiotics, ever.\" \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Copyright 2014 \u003ca href=\"http://www.npr.org/\" target=\"_blank\">NPR\u003c/a>.\u003c/em> \u003c/p>\n\n",
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"content": "\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>More than 1 million eggs arrive here every week from breeding farms a few hours away in West Virginia. Unlike the eggs you buy in the store, these eggs are fertilized; there are embryos inside.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>They go into massive heated incubators for 18 days. Then, when they're almost ready to hatch, they're wheeled out into a hallway. Tray by tray, they go through a vaccination robot.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A bank of needles descends. Each needle punctures an egg and squirts in a bit of fluid: a vaccine against a common chicken virus.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://www.linkedin.com/pub/bruce-stewart-brown/49/a80/195\">Bruce Stewart-Brown\u003c/a>, a veterinarian and senior vice president for Perdue, tells me that the fluid contains a vaccine against \u003ca href=\"http://www.thepoultrysite.com/diseaseinfo/90/mareks-disease\">Marek's disease\u003c/a>, a highly contagious common chicken virus. 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And that's why it's an exciting thing, because it's the culmination of a lot, a lot of effort.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Getting to this point took 12 years, Perdue says. 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