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She told me that the regional center coordinators told her that the therapists were just afraid to come to the tenderloin because they felt unsafe.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>What does Reyna say about what it was like to not have therapists willing to meet with her foster daughter in person?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Daisy Nguyen: \u003c/strong>She just felt it was unjust that it was because of where she lives. The therapists weren’t coming there to provide the services that her foster daughter crucially needed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Reyna Balladares: \u003c/strong>\u003cem>[speaking spanish]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Daisy Nguyen: \u003c/strong>What happened instead was that she was given an alternative, but it wasn’t what she wanted. So the Golden Gate Regional Center was telling her that she could take her foster child to the different clinics across San Francisco to make all these different appointments, which kind of stacked up during the week for her. She had to take a lot of time out of her working days.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Reyna Balladares: \u003c/strong>\u003cem>[speaking spanish]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Daisy Nguyen: \u003c/strong>But the other alternative was to have these services done through zoom.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Reyna Balladares: \u003c/strong>\u003cem>[speaking spanish]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Daisy Nguyen: \u003c/strong>It wasn’t ideal. She said her foster child would not respond to the therapist or just not want to sit in front of a screen.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>I want to step back a little bit, Daisy, and talk a little bit more about what early intervention services are, what kind of services are we talking about? Exactly? And I know these services are also things that families are entitled to. Right.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Daisy Nguyen: \u003c/strong>Children with developmental delays are entitled to receive a host of early intervention services to enhance their ability to sit or walk or talk. The services could include physical therapy, speech therapy, occupational therapy. It could even include equipment that helps young children maintain or improve certain skills, or parents could also receive some counseling and training to support their child’s developmental needs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Daisy Nguyen: \u003c/strong>Getting the services as early as possible is crucial for children. Experts say that’s because this is a period when children’s brain are rapidly developing, and so they’re more adaptable. So receiving early intervention services could really change the developmental path of a child. It could make a big difference.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Daisy Nguyen: \u003c/strong>But it has to be given during this period. This is a federal program that’s administered in California by a network of nonprofit regional centers. So in the Bay area, the Golden Gate Regional Center is responsible for coordinating these services for families in San Francisco, Marin, and San Mateo County.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>What are the bigger systemic problems with the state system for these early intervention services?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Daisy Nguyen: \u003c/strong>This program has always been plagued by understaffing and underinvestment by the government. The therapist who would provide these services. They are not paid a competitive rate. The rates in which the providers get paid have never been as competitive as what the private market is able to pay for these services, and so they’re just less incentivized to to provide services through this program.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Daisy Nguyen: \u003c/strong>And so they’re in demand, which means that the number of families who who need the service, who requested these services and are eligible for these services have to kind of wait sometimes just to get it. The other issue is that they don’t get paid to travel to a family’s home.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Daisy Nguyen: \u003c/strong>So as an alternative, what they’re able to offer to families is appointments in their offices or through telehealth, meaning appointments through zoom. And but for these some of these families, this is not what they considered an ideal way for their children to receive these services. They consider it substandard.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Coming up, how underfunding has hurt those who need the most help and how do we fix this? Stay with us.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>I want to talk more Daisy through, I guess, some of the consequences of this inadequate funding, as you were kind of just starting to talk about. What did you find?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Daisy Nguyen: \u003c/strong>Doctor Jennifer Albon is a pediatrician at UCSF.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dr. Jennifer Albon: \u003c/strong>Most of my young patients are needing early intervention services.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Daisy Nguyen: \u003c/strong>So she just is seeing, you know, growing geographic and socioeconomic disparities when it comes to who gets early intervention services in their home.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dr. Jennifer Albon: \u003c/strong>I have many families who, like, live in certain neighborhoods of San Francisco, and the regional center has flat out told them and told us that there’s not providers who will go to your neighborhood, even within San Francisco.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>What does Doctor Albon say about the importance of providing this treatment in these children’s homes, but specifically no matter where they live?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Daisy Nguyen: \u003c/strong>She says it’s just more ideal because children learn best when they’re in familiar surroundings.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dr. Jennifer Albon: \u003c/strong>You know, they get scared of coming into like, offices and other things like that. So it’s harder for them to participate when it’s not like their natural environments.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Daisy Nguyen: \u003c/strong>The parents are also receiving some of the training themselves, so that for the rest of that week, when there’s no therapy, they’re able to practice what they’ve been trained to, you know, by the therapists to do.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dr. Jennifer Albon: \u003c/strong>The goal for it to be kind of in their natural environment is that they have all of their regular things. And the and the therapists are showing the family what to do with what they have at home or in these natural environments.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Daisy Nguyen: \u003c/strong>And I should add that it is it’s a lot. It’s a law where it says that services should ideally be provided in the natural environment. The growth in online therapies have made it accessible for many people. But I think in the case with young children, it’s it’s created more inequities.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Will these issues that we’re talking about are systemic, as you described earlier, and they’re also not all new, but what can we do to fix this problem?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Daisy Nguyen: \u003c/strong>I spoke with leaders of the regional centers, and they say that’s really like the you know, they recognize that this is a distressing situation that they’ve been trying to address for a long time, and they can’t compel therapists to see children in person if they’re just not getting, you know, they’re not being paid enough to do it. And so they’re really calling for greater investment by the state and federal government in the program.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Daisy Nguyen: \u003c/strong>The state has been gradually been increasing the reimbursement rates for early intervention services. But this budget year, Governor Gavin Newsom wants to delay full implementation of the increases, and the regional center leaders are saying like they they really don’t think delay is a good idea, because increasing the rate is encouraging the therapists to do the work to go and see children in the natural environment. And also it’s encouraging them to to hire more people.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Daisy Nguyen: \u003c/strong>Ultra regional center services Sacramento and about 9 or 10 surrounding counties, and they receive some federal pandemic aid money to implement a pilot project, where they offered an incentive to therapists to go to underserved zip codes and also hard to reach areas in their region. And they noticed that these incentives, which is I think it was something like $200 per visit, that they saw an increase in the number of children seen in these underserved areas. So clearly, you know, money talks.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Coming back to Reyna Balladares, what is she going to do next?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Daisy Nguyen: \u003c/strong>Her foster child just turned three, which means she is, quote unquote, aged out of, early intervention services. And Raina believes that she could have made much more progress if she had received consistent services. Her daughter now will need more, special education services through the San Francisco Unified School District.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>That is kind of heartbreaking, because it sounds like she wasn’t able to get the critical services she needed on time. But at the same time, Raina seems like this very active parent who knows a lot and who really pushed to make sure her kid got the services she needed. But I also imagine there’s probably lots of families who struggle to navigate these services, or maybe just don’t even have the time to and I mean, just maybe give up.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Daisy Nguyen: \u003c/strong>I think that’s what compelled, Reyna to speak with me, because she would she wanted to speak out on behalf of those parents who you can imagine. I think having a child who, if you’re. Especially if you’re a first time parent, just absorbing the news that your child has a developmental delay. These families are often in crisis, and they don’t have the time to make constant calls to the regional center and push for these types of services.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Reyna Balladares: \u003c/strong>\u003cem>[speaking spanish]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Ultimately, Reyna wants to adopt the the baby girl, right?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Daisy Nguyen: \u003c/strong>She fell in love with this child.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Reyna Balladares: \u003c/strong>\u003cem>[speaking spanish]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Daisy Nguyen: \u003c/strong>She is much closer to getting the adoption approved bundle.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Reyna Balladares: \u003c/strong>\u003cem>[speaking spanish]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Daisy Nguyen: \u003c/strong>And when I met with them, I mean, you can just see this clear bond. And, she she just wants to do what’s best for this little girl.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Well, Daisy, thank you so much for breaking this down for us. I really appreciate it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Daisy Nguyen: \u003c/strong>Yeah. No problem.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>That was Daisy Nguyen, an early childhood education reporter for KQED. This 38 minute conversation with Daisy was cut down and edited by our intern, Ellie Prickett-Morgan and our senior editor, Alan Montecillo. Maria Esquinca is our producer. She scored this episode and added all the tape music courtesy of the Audio Network. Special thanks as well to Carlos Cabrera-Lomelí.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>By the way, did you know that the Bay is listener supported? Meaning our funders are people just like you? So if you appreciate the value that the Bay brings to your life, consider becoming a KQED member. Just go to KQED.org/Donate. The Bay is a production of listener supported KQED in San Francisco. I’m Ericka Cruz Guevarra. Thanks for listening. Talk to you next time.\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Experts say getting these services early and in-person is critical for babies’ development.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1711565224,"stats":{"hasAudio":true,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":75,"wordCount":2625},"headData":{"title":"Babies and Toddlers With Developmental Delays Are Entitled to Care. 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Experts say getting these services early and in-person is critical for babies’ development, and that it can actually reduce the need for special education services later in life.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But many families aren’t receiving the care they need. KQED’s Daisy Nguyen explains why.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cb>Links: \u003c/b>\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/news/11980312/a-caregivers-guide-to-navigating-early-intervention-services\">‘Early Start’ 101: Here’s How Families Can Access Early Intervention Services for Younger Kids\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003cp>\u003c!-- iframe plugin v.4.3 wordpress.org/plugins/iframe/ -->\u003cbr>\n\u003ciframe loading=\"lazy\" frameborder=\"0\" height=\"200\" scrolling=\"no\" src=\"https://playlist.megaphone.fm/?e=KQINC5200793499\" width=\"100%\" class=\"iframe-class\">\u003c/iframe>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2 id=\"episode-transcript\">Episode Transcript\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>This is a computer-generated transcript. While our team has reviewed it, there may be errors.\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>I’m Ericka Cruz Guevarra and welcome to the Bay. Local news to keep you rooted. Baby brains have lots to absorb early on. They’re learning how to walk and talk, and their brains are most adaptable in the first three years of life. That makes it a crucial period, because if the child shows signs of delays in their development, those first three years are the time to intervene.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Daisy Nguyen: \u003c/strong>Receiving early intervention services could really change the developmental path of a child. It could make a big difference, but it has to be given during this period.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>In California, babies are entitled to help from the state. They show signs of developmental delay, and it happens through a program known as Early Start. But many of the neediest families aren’t getting that help today. I talked with KQED early childhood education reporter Daisy Nguyen about the barriers to getting babies crucial, life altering services on time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Daisy Nguyen: \u003c/strong>Reyna Balladares, is a foster parent who lives in the tenderloin.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Reyna Balladares: \u003c/strong>\u003cem>[speaking spanish]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Daisy Nguyen: \u003c/strong>Then she became a foster parent, during the pandemic. She told me that at the time when the, you know, the world was shutting down, she wanted to open up her home to help foster children. She first took care of a baby boy for about six months. And, I think that was a really good experience for her, even though ultimately, you know, that the child was placed in a different home.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Reyna Balladares: \u003c/strong>\u003cem>[speaking spanish]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Daisy Nguyen: \u003c/strong>And then she met this little girl, this newborn baby in 2021.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Reyna Balladares: \u003c/strong>\u003cem>[speaking spanish]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Daisy Nguyen: \u003c/strong>She told me that she just remembered the the baby’s smile and just how sweet her face was. How she lit up when she saw her second city.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Reyna Balladares: \u003c/strong>\u003cem>[speaking spanish]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Daisy Nguyen: \u003c/strong>You know, it broke her heart that the situation, that in which this girl came to her. But the little glimmer of hope when she saw that the girl was making some progress in her development, really reinforced her desire to want to advocate for this, for this little girl.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Reyna Balladares: \u003c/strong>\u003cem>[speaking spanish]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>When did Reyna start to notice this little girl struggling a little bit in her development?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Daisy Nguyen: \u003c/strong>She said this child was just slow to begin walking and talking. And I think because Reyna had raised two daughters, she had some personal experience.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Reyna Balladares: \u003c/strong>\u003cem>[speaking spanish]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Daisy Nguyen: \u003c/strong>She just felt something wasn’t right. And she she said she mentioned this to doctors who initially told her this is normal. That was slightly dismissive. But she was certain that there was something going on. And ultimately, after seeing specialists, it was confirmed to her that this little girl needed a lot of early intervention services, essentially to help her reach her potential. It was recommended that this little girl receives a physical therapy, speech therapy, occupational therapy, and feeding therapy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>We’re talking about really important services that kids need very early on. And I mean, I have to imagine time is of the essence. Why was it so hard for Rina to get the services that she needed for this baby girl? Why did she have to push so hard?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Daisy Nguyen: \u003c/strong>When I learned was just that the regional center has been overwhelmed, especially since the pandemic, with just a high caseload of children seeking services and probably some staffing shortages, not only at the regional center, but also with a shortage of early intervention providers. Families have to really push to get the services that they need in a timely manner and in the way that they want it to receive it, meaning if they want it to happen in the natural environment of the child.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Reyna Balladares: \u003c/strong>\u003cem>[speaking spanish]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Daisy Nguyen: \u003c/strong>Reyna said that what she stumbled upon was just a lot of resistance by the therapist to come to the tenderloin, where she lives. She told me that the regional center coordinators told her that the therapists were just afraid to come to the tenderloin because they felt unsafe.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>What does Reyna say about what it was like to not have therapists willing to meet with her foster daughter in person?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Daisy Nguyen: \u003c/strong>She just felt it was unjust that it was because of where she lives. The therapists weren’t coming there to provide the services that her foster daughter crucially needed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Reyna Balladares: \u003c/strong>\u003cem>[speaking spanish]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Daisy Nguyen: \u003c/strong>What happened instead was that she was given an alternative, but it wasn’t what she wanted. So the Golden Gate Regional Center was telling her that she could take her foster child to the different clinics across San Francisco to make all these different appointments, which kind of stacked up during the week for her. She had to take a lot of time out of her working days.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Reyna Balladares: \u003c/strong>\u003cem>[speaking spanish]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Daisy Nguyen: \u003c/strong>But the other alternative was to have these services done through zoom.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Reyna Balladares: \u003c/strong>\u003cem>[speaking spanish]\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Daisy Nguyen: \u003c/strong>It wasn’t ideal. She said her foster child would not respond to the therapist or just not want to sit in front of a screen.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>I want to step back a little bit, Daisy, and talk a little bit more about what early intervention services are, what kind of services are we talking about? Exactly? And I know these services are also things that families are entitled to. Right.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Daisy Nguyen: \u003c/strong>Children with developmental delays are entitled to receive a host of early intervention services to enhance their ability to sit or walk or talk. The services could include physical therapy, speech therapy, occupational therapy. It could even include equipment that helps young children maintain or improve certain skills, or parents could also receive some counseling and training to support their child’s developmental needs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Daisy Nguyen: \u003c/strong>Getting the services as early as possible is crucial for children. Experts say that’s because this is a period when children’s brain are rapidly developing, and so they’re more adaptable. So receiving early intervention services could really change the developmental path of a child. It could make a big difference.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Daisy Nguyen: \u003c/strong>But it has to be given during this period. This is a federal program that’s administered in California by a network of nonprofit regional centers. So in the Bay area, the Golden Gate Regional Center is responsible for coordinating these services for families in San Francisco, Marin, and San Mateo County.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>What are the bigger systemic problems with the state system for these early intervention services?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Daisy Nguyen: \u003c/strong>This program has always been plagued by understaffing and underinvestment by the government. The therapist who would provide these services. They are not paid a competitive rate. The rates in which the providers get paid have never been as competitive as what the private market is able to pay for these services, and so they’re just less incentivized to to provide services through this program.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Daisy Nguyen: \u003c/strong>And so they’re in demand, which means that the number of families who who need the service, who requested these services and are eligible for these services have to kind of wait sometimes just to get it. The other issue is that they don’t get paid to travel to a family’s home.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Daisy Nguyen: \u003c/strong>So as an alternative, what they’re able to offer to families is appointments in their offices or through telehealth, meaning appointments through zoom. And but for these some of these families, this is not what they considered an ideal way for their children to receive these services. They consider it substandard.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Coming up, how underfunding has hurt those who need the most help and how do we fix this? Stay with us.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>I want to talk more Daisy through, I guess, some of the consequences of this inadequate funding, as you were kind of just starting to talk about. What did you find?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Daisy Nguyen: \u003c/strong>Doctor Jennifer Albon is a pediatrician at UCSF.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dr. Jennifer Albon: \u003c/strong>Most of my young patients are needing early intervention services.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Daisy Nguyen: \u003c/strong>So she just is seeing, you know, growing geographic and socioeconomic disparities when it comes to who gets early intervention services in their home.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dr. Jennifer Albon: \u003c/strong>I have many families who, like, live in certain neighborhoods of San Francisco, and the regional center has flat out told them and told us that there’s not providers who will go to your neighborhood, even within San Francisco.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>What does Doctor Albon say about the importance of providing this treatment in these children’s homes, but specifically no matter where they live?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Daisy Nguyen: \u003c/strong>She says it’s just more ideal because children learn best when they’re in familiar surroundings.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dr. Jennifer Albon: \u003c/strong>You know, they get scared of coming into like, offices and other things like that. So it’s harder for them to participate when it’s not like their natural environments.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Daisy Nguyen: \u003c/strong>The parents are also receiving some of the training themselves, so that for the rest of that week, when there’s no therapy, they’re able to practice what they’ve been trained to, you know, by the therapists to do.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Dr. Jennifer Albon: \u003c/strong>The goal for it to be kind of in their natural environment is that they have all of their regular things. And the and the therapists are showing the family what to do with what they have at home or in these natural environments.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Daisy Nguyen: \u003c/strong>And I should add that it is it’s a lot. It’s a law where it says that services should ideally be provided in the natural environment. The growth in online therapies have made it accessible for many people. But I think in the case with young children, it’s it’s created more inequities.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Will these issues that we’re talking about are systemic, as you described earlier, and they’re also not all new, but what can we do to fix this problem?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Daisy Nguyen: \u003c/strong>I spoke with leaders of the regional centers, and they say that’s really like the you know, they recognize that this is a distressing situation that they’ve been trying to address for a long time, and they can’t compel therapists to see children in person if they’re just not getting, you know, they’re not being paid enough to do it. And so they’re really calling for greater investment by the state and federal government in the program.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Daisy Nguyen: \u003c/strong>The state has been gradually been increasing the reimbursement rates for early intervention services. But this budget year, Governor Gavin Newsom wants to delay full implementation of the increases, and the regional center leaders are saying like they they really don’t think delay is a good idea, because increasing the rate is encouraging the therapists to do the work to go and see children in the natural environment. And also it’s encouraging them to to hire more people.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Daisy Nguyen: \u003c/strong>Ultra regional center services Sacramento and about 9 or 10 surrounding counties, and they receive some federal pandemic aid money to implement a pilot project, where they offered an incentive to therapists to go to underserved zip codes and also hard to reach areas in their region. And they noticed that these incentives, which is I think it was something like $200 per visit, that they saw an increase in the number of children seen in these underserved areas. So clearly, you know, money talks.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Coming back to Reyna Balladares, what is she going to do next?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Daisy Nguyen: \u003c/strong>Her foster child just turned three, which means she is, quote unquote, aged out of, early intervention services. And Raina believes that she could have made much more progress if she had received consistent services. Her daughter now will need more, special education services through the San Francisco Unified School District.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>That is kind of heartbreaking, because it sounds like she wasn’t able to get the critical services she needed on time. But at the same time, Raina seems like this very active parent who knows a lot and who really pushed to make sure her kid got the services she needed. But I also imagine there’s probably lots of families who struggle to navigate these services, or maybe just don’t even have the time to and I mean, just maybe give up.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Daisy Nguyen: \u003c/strong>I think that’s what compelled, Reyna to speak with me, because she would she wanted to speak out on behalf of those parents who you can imagine. I think having a child who, if you’re. Especially if you’re a first time parent, just absorbing the news that your child has a developmental delay. 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And, she she just wants to do what’s best for this little girl.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Well, Daisy, thank you so much for breaking this down for us. I really appreciate it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Daisy Nguyen: \u003c/strong>Yeah. No problem.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>That was Daisy Nguyen, an early childhood education reporter for KQED. This 38 minute conversation with Daisy was cut down and edited by our intern, Ellie Prickett-Morgan and our senior editor, Alan Montecillo. Maria Esquinca is our producer. She scored this episode and added all the tape music courtesy of the Audio Network. 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Gavin Newsom’s proposal to build new treatment facilities and direct a larger share of mental health funding to housing. KQED politics correspondent Guy Marzorati joins us to unpack the results, and what this could mean for the state moving forward.\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\n\u003cp id=\"embed-code\" class=\"inconsolata\">\n\u003c!-- iframe plugin v.4.3 wordpress.org/plugins/iframe/ -->\u003cbr>\n\u003ciframe loading=\"lazy\" frameborder=\"0\" height=\"200\" scrolling=\"no\" src=\"https://playlist.megaphone.fm/?e=KQINC9941486319&light=true\" width=\"100%\" class=\"iframe-class\">\u003c/iframe>\n\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2 id=\"episode-transcript\">Episode Transcript\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>This is a computer-generated transcript. While our team has reviewed it, there may be errors.\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>I’m Ericka Cruz Guevarra and welcome to the Bay. Local news to keep you rooted. Well, it’s been a minute since election night, but we finally know the results of proposition one. Governor Gavin Newsom secured a big win after voters just barely passed his proposal for reshaping how Californians struggling with homelessness and mental illness get care.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gov. Gavin Newsom: \u003c/strong>We’re here today celebrating, this journey, and the successful effort, to fundamentally reshape and reform the approach we take today.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>KQED politics correspondent Guy Marzorati breaks down what prop one is going to mean for the state.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati: \u003c/strong>So there was two big ideas or pieces of prop one. The first was a bond measure, a $6.38 billion bond to build more residential treatment facilities and supportive housing. The second was changing up how California spends its current mental health money, specifically earmarking more of that money for housing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Why did it take so long for the results of prop one to be called?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati: \u003c/strong>I think just because this election was held close and that’s hello with like 7 or 8 L’s, 7.2 million Californians cast a ballot on prop one. Right now, the latest margin I’m seeing, it’s around 30,000 votes. The fact that we count votes county by county. You know, you have some counties, Alameda, that are just take longer than others to count. And I think that’s why we saw such a drawn out process. Now, weeks after Election Day. We finally have clarity that prop one is passed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Was it surprising to you, I guess.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati: \u003c/strong>You know, I think of maybe if we were talking, like, six months ago. So this would have been surprising to have the margin be basically down to tens of thousands of votes. The yes side went into this campaign with a big coalition in support, a lot of big name support, certainly a lot of money compared to the no campaign. But I think by Election Day we knew this was going to be close.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati: \u003c/strong>As we’ve talked about before, the electorate in this March primary skewed conservative. And supporters of prop one really knew by the time March 5th came around that they were going to be in a really close fight here. The other reason that maybe makes sense to me is that this measure might have just been really confusing for voters. It was a bond. Yes. It was also a restructuring of the Mental Health Services Act.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marva Diaz: \u003c/strong>It’s always easier to run a ballot measure that is extremely simple and clear to voters.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati: \u003c/strong>When I’ve talked to political strategists like Marva Diaz, she said, voters might have simply been like, this is too much to comprehend. I’m voting against it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marva Diaz: \u003c/strong>The more they have to research the more they have to unpack, the more they have to figure out themselves when filling out their ballot the harder it is to. Get them to vote yes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>I know that Governor Gavin Newsom was one of the primary proponents of prop one. What is he saying about this win?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati: \u003c/strong>Yeah, the press conference was just kind of like a big, sigh of relief from Newsom. He had been really quiet for the week since this, you know, vote, had been counted. He kind of kept a low profile, but he was out there Thursday celebrating the win in Los Angeles.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gov. Gavin Newsom: \u003c/strong>We’re here today celebrating, this journey, and the successful effort, to fundamentally reshape and reform the approach we take to address the issue of mental health and substance abuse and disorder and challenges, that continue to vex us out on the streets and sidewalks and those that are suffering alone. If there’s.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati: \u003c/strong>And really kind of vowing to win over skeptics, particularly folks who might have approached this and said, you know, we’ve seen bonds before and they haven’t really made a dent, he really tried to make an argument that he’s going to be able to get this money out quickly, you know, get shovels into the ground to build residential treatment facilities.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gov. Gavin Newsom: \u003c/strong>And it is foundational if this is going to work, that everybody step up their game.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati: \u003c/strong>He also turned his focus to California counties, because the counties are going to be the ones implementing proposition one. And he really tried to put kind of like pressure on them to, okay, we pass this. Now you all have to make this work.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gov. Gavin Newsom: \u003c/strong>It requires now, for the first time in state’s history that counties have one single plan. One single plan to address this issue. And it’s not just a plan.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Who else was for prop one at the press conference in support?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati: \u003c/strong>It was a broad coalition, and that was reflected in who was there, on Thursday. You had folks working in support of veterans. This measure set aside a specific amount of money just to build supportive housing for veterans with behavioral health challenges. You had a representative from the California Professional Firefighters. You might think firefighters, you know, what are they? What’s their interest in mental health?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati: \u003c/strong>Well, firefighters and other first responders often have to show up on the scene when someone is dealing with a mental health crisis. And the same is true for medical groups representing doctors, representing hospitals who spoke in favor of this, because they feel like oftentimes the problems in California’s mental health infrastructure trickle down and end up with folks just showing up in the emergency room.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Well, just coming back to Newsom briefly, Guy, why is prop one in particular so important for him to do this and to to get this thing passed?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati: \u003c/strong>Newsom as governor has really taken on solving this intersection between homelessness, mental health, substance use, addiction, as like where he wants to leave as his legacy in this state in terms of policy. So prop one is really just the latest iteration of of programs that Newsom has been pushing now for years. It’s includes care courts. That was, you know, a controversial thing last year, trying to create this new civil court system to compel some people to care.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati: \u003c/strong>It included changing conservatorship laws, again, making it easier to to take maybe a little bit tougher approach, pushing people, into care who are really going through the most severe crises on the streets. And prop one is the latest in this. And I think for Newsom, it answers the question of a lot of critics had about care courts, which is if you’re going to compel someone into care, where are they going to live during that time?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati: \u003c/strong>If you’re going to go sleep under a bridge when the treatment is done at night. Is that really the best way for people to be receiving care? So I think Newsom looked at prop one is like, okay, this is the answer I’m going to have for this housing to go along with the care.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Coming up, we’ll talk more about how prop one will change mental health care and hear from the no campaign. Stay with us.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>I know this has been described as really like an overhaul of how California currently cares for people with serious mental illness. I wonder if you can like explain guy, like, how exactly is this going to be a change from how things currently work?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati: \u003c/strong>Yeah. So it’s still going to be run largely through counties. You know, counties are going to get 90% of the revenue from this, behavioral health services tax. The tax is not going to change. But the revenue, 30% of it, like I said, is now going to have to go towards housing so counties can use that to build new affordable housing with supportive services. They can use it to maybe operate some of the housing that’s getting built through this bond.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati: \u003c/strong>They can use it for things like rental subsidies for Californians who have mental health or substance use issues, who maybe are risk of becoming unhoused. So that is a shift. And because that pot of money is not growing. There might be programs that are funded currently that as more of that money moves towards housing, maybe there will be programs that no longer have the funding they once did.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>You are sort of alluding to some of the concerns of the opponents here Guy, which I do want to talk about. I mean, prop one one pretty narrowly. Remind us who was against prop one and what were their arguments?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati: \u003c/strong>So you did have the, you know, I guess, official no. On one campaign, which was largely led by service providers who feared that as more money gets shifted towards housing, there’s going to be less for existing programs. And you also heard, you know, from civil liberties groups to argued that that bond would fund lock facilities. They didn’t like that. Disability rights California for example, was against this.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati: \u003c/strong>On top of that, you had groups like the Howard Jarvis Taxpayers Association more on the right, that fiscally conservative view that the state just should not be borrowing this much money, at this time. But there wasn’t coalition or really coordination between these groups. And the no. On one campaign was really a volunteer effort. They didn’t raise money, and they knew from the beginning there weren’t going to be able to kind of compete with the yes campaign.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Paul Simmons: \u003c/strong>Virtually no advertising other than some Google and social media and such. So, yeah, I mean, it didn’t exactly stand up to a Super Bowl ad, but, you know, that’s what we had.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati: \u003c/strong>Paul Simmons, who helped lead the no campaign before that he was with Depression and Bipolar Support Alliance. He told me any program that has the word peer in it is in danger. So basically support programs that are led by Californians to have, you know, these shared lives, experiences with behavioral health challenges. He looks at those as being particularly vulnerable.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Paul Simmons: \u003c/strong>You know, the governor and Steinberg both said, now, you know, there aren’t going to be program cuts. And we believe that was an outright blatant lie. But we’re going to try to hold their feet to the fire to make sure that things aren’t cut.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati: \u003c/strong>Prop one supporters and even the governor said that there’s more money available for these types of programs from other sources. You know, there’s efforts to get Medi-Cal to pay for these kind of services.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Well, let’s talk about what is next year, guys. Prop one is, I feel like, very complicated and and it’s ambitious. And now it’s passed. What are you going to be looking for? To see whether this is working? And could it, you think, make a real difference?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati: \u003c/strong>It’s hard to say. Now, I do think this is a historic investment in terms of, you know, just the amount of money that the state is, is putting forward. But we’ve seen historic investments in supportive housing in the past that haven’t totally moved the needle or changed conditions on the street just because the housing that gets built is only one piece.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati: \u003c/strong>There’s people who are still falling into homelessness. And here, of course, you’re talking about a very specific population of people experiencing homelessness. This isn’t for the entire universe of of unhoused people in California. This is a really specific size of people who have these compounding, you know, substance use or mental health challenges.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati: \u003c/strong>I do think Newsom is putting forward a pretty clear strategy when it comes to prioritizing. His argument is that the folks who really need this the most are the ones most visibly suffering. I guess time will tell, but Newsom is certainly laying down the marker that this is how he wants to be judged as governor of California.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Well, Guy, thank you as always for breaking this down. We really appreciate it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati: \u003c/strong>My pleasure.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>That was Guy Marzorati, correspondent with KQED Politics and Government Desk. This 20 minute conversation with Guy was cut down and edited by a senior editor, Alan Montecillo. Maria Esquinca is our producer. She scored this episode and added all the tape music courtesy of the Audio Network.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>If you want to know how to support our show and keep local news thriving here at KQED, consider becoming a KQED member. Just go to KQED.com/Donate. I’m Ericka Cruz Guevarra. 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Gavin Newsom’s proposal to build new treatment facilities and direct a larger share of mental health funding to housing. KQED politics correspondent Guy Marzorati joins us to unpack the results, and what this could mean for the state moving forward.\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"card card--enclosed grey\">\n\u003cp id=\"embed-code\" class=\"inconsolata\">\n\u003c!-- iframe plugin v.4.3 wordpress.org/plugins/iframe/ -->\u003cbr>\n\u003ciframe loading=\"lazy\" frameborder=\"0\" height=\"200\" scrolling=\"no\" src=\"https://playlist.megaphone.fm/?e=KQINC9941486319&light=true\" width=\"100%\" class=\"iframe-class\">\u003c/iframe>\n\u003c/p>\n\u003ch2 id=\"episode-transcript\">Episode Transcript\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp>\u003ci>This is a computer-generated transcript. While our team has reviewed it, there may be errors.\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>I’m Ericka Cruz Guevarra and welcome to the Bay. Local news to keep you rooted. Well, it’s been a minute since election night, but we finally know the results of proposition one. Governor Gavin Newsom secured a big win after voters just barely passed his proposal for reshaping how Californians struggling with homelessness and mental illness get care.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gov. Gavin Newsom: \u003c/strong>We’re here today celebrating, this journey, and the successful effort, to fundamentally reshape and reform the approach we take today.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>KQED politics correspondent Guy Marzorati breaks down what prop one is going to mean for the state.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati: \u003c/strong>So there was two big ideas or pieces of prop one. The first was a bond measure, a $6.38 billion bond to build more residential treatment facilities and supportive housing. The second was changing up how California spends its current mental health money, specifically earmarking more of that money for housing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Why did it take so long for the results of prop one to be called?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati: \u003c/strong>I think just because this election was held close and that’s hello with like 7 or 8 L’s, 7.2 million Californians cast a ballot on prop one. Right now, the latest margin I’m seeing, it’s around 30,000 votes. The fact that we count votes county by county. You know, you have some counties, Alameda, that are just take longer than others to count. And I think that’s why we saw such a drawn out process. Now, weeks after Election Day. We finally have clarity that prop one is passed.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Was it surprising to you, I guess.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati: \u003c/strong>You know, I think of maybe if we were talking, like, six months ago. So this would have been surprising to have the margin be basically down to tens of thousands of votes. The yes side went into this campaign with a big coalition in support, a lot of big name support, certainly a lot of money compared to the no campaign. But I think by Election Day we knew this was going to be close.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati: \u003c/strong>As we’ve talked about before, the electorate in this March primary skewed conservative. And supporters of prop one really knew by the time March 5th came around that they were going to be in a really close fight here. The other reason that maybe makes sense to me is that this measure might have just been really confusing for voters. It was a bond. Yes. It was also a restructuring of the Mental Health Services Act.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marva Diaz: \u003c/strong>It’s always easier to run a ballot measure that is extremely simple and clear to voters.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati: \u003c/strong>When I’ve talked to political strategists like Marva Diaz, she said, voters might have simply been like, this is too much to comprehend. I’m voting against it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marva Diaz: \u003c/strong>The more they have to research the more they have to unpack, the more they have to figure out themselves when filling out their ballot the harder it is to. Get them to vote yes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>I know that Governor Gavin Newsom was one of the primary proponents of prop one. What is he saying about this win?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati: \u003c/strong>Yeah, the press conference was just kind of like a big, sigh of relief from Newsom. He had been really quiet for the week since this, you know, vote, had been counted. He kind of kept a low profile, but he was out there Thursday celebrating the win in Los Angeles.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gov. Gavin Newsom: \u003c/strong>We’re here today celebrating, this journey, and the successful effort, to fundamentally reshape and reform the approach we take to address the issue of mental health and substance abuse and disorder and challenges, that continue to vex us out on the streets and sidewalks and those that are suffering alone. If there’s.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati: \u003c/strong>And really kind of vowing to win over skeptics, particularly folks who might have approached this and said, you know, we’ve seen bonds before and they haven’t really made a dent, he really tried to make an argument that he’s going to be able to get this money out quickly, you know, get shovels into the ground to build residential treatment facilities.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gov. Gavin Newsom: \u003c/strong>And it is foundational if this is going to work, that everybody step up their game.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati: \u003c/strong>He also turned his focus to California counties, because the counties are going to be the ones implementing proposition one. And he really tried to put kind of like pressure on them to, okay, we pass this. Now you all have to make this work.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Gov. Gavin Newsom: \u003c/strong>It requires now, for the first time in state’s history that counties have one single plan. One single plan to address this issue. And it’s not just a plan.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Who else was for prop one at the press conference in support?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati: \u003c/strong>It was a broad coalition, and that was reflected in who was there, on Thursday. You had folks working in support of veterans. This measure set aside a specific amount of money just to build supportive housing for veterans with behavioral health challenges. You had a representative from the California Professional Firefighters. You might think firefighters, you know, what are they? What’s their interest in mental health?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati: \u003c/strong>Well, firefighters and other first responders often have to show up on the scene when someone is dealing with a mental health crisis. And the same is true for medical groups representing doctors, representing hospitals who spoke in favor of this, because they feel like oftentimes the problems in California’s mental health infrastructure trickle down and end up with folks just showing up in the emergency room.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Well, just coming back to Newsom briefly, Guy, why is prop one in particular so important for him to do this and to to get this thing passed?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati: \u003c/strong>Newsom as governor has really taken on solving this intersection between homelessness, mental health, substance use, addiction, as like where he wants to leave as his legacy in this state in terms of policy. So prop one is really just the latest iteration of of programs that Newsom has been pushing now for years. It’s includes care courts. That was, you know, a controversial thing last year, trying to create this new civil court system to compel some people to care.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati: \u003c/strong>It included changing conservatorship laws, again, making it easier to to take maybe a little bit tougher approach, pushing people, into care who are really going through the most severe crises on the streets. And prop one is the latest in this. And I think for Newsom, it answers the question of a lot of critics had about care courts, which is if you’re going to compel someone into care, where are they going to live during that time?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati: \u003c/strong>If you’re going to go sleep under a bridge when the treatment is done at night. Is that really the best way for people to be receiving care? So I think Newsom looked at prop one is like, okay, this is the answer I’m going to have for this housing to go along with the care.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Coming up, we’ll talk more about how prop one will change mental health care and hear from the no campaign. Stay with us.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>I know this has been described as really like an overhaul of how California currently cares for people with serious mental illness. I wonder if you can like explain guy, like, how exactly is this going to be a change from how things currently work?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati: \u003c/strong>Yeah. So it’s still going to be run largely through counties. You know, counties are going to get 90% of the revenue from this, behavioral health services tax. The tax is not going to change. But the revenue, 30% of it, like I said, is now going to have to go towards housing so counties can use that to build new affordable housing with supportive services. They can use it to maybe operate some of the housing that’s getting built through this bond.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati: \u003c/strong>They can use it for things like rental subsidies for Californians who have mental health or substance use issues, who maybe are risk of becoming unhoused. So that is a shift. And because that pot of money is not growing. There might be programs that are funded currently that as more of that money moves towards housing, maybe there will be programs that no longer have the funding they once did.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>You are sort of alluding to some of the concerns of the opponents here Guy, which I do want to talk about. I mean, prop one one pretty narrowly. Remind us who was against prop one and what were their arguments?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati: \u003c/strong>So you did have the, you know, I guess, official no. On one campaign, which was largely led by service providers who feared that as more money gets shifted towards housing, there’s going to be less for existing programs. And you also heard, you know, from civil liberties groups to argued that that bond would fund lock facilities. They didn’t like that. Disability rights California for example, was against this.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati: \u003c/strong>On top of that, you had groups like the Howard Jarvis Taxpayers Association more on the right, that fiscally conservative view that the state just should not be borrowing this much money, at this time. But there wasn’t coalition or really coordination between these groups. And the no. On one campaign was really a volunteer effort. They didn’t raise money, and they knew from the beginning there weren’t going to be able to kind of compete with the yes campaign.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Paul Simmons: \u003c/strong>Virtually no advertising other than some Google and social media and such. So, yeah, I mean, it didn’t exactly stand up to a Super Bowl ad, but, you know, that’s what we had.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati: \u003c/strong>Paul Simmons, who helped lead the no campaign before that he was with Depression and Bipolar Support Alliance. He told me any program that has the word peer in it is in danger. So basically support programs that are led by Californians to have, you know, these shared lives, experiences with behavioral health challenges. He looks at those as being particularly vulnerable.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Paul Simmons: \u003c/strong>You know, the governor and Steinberg both said, now, you know, there aren’t going to be program cuts. And we believe that was an outright blatant lie. But we’re going to try to hold their feet to the fire to make sure that things aren’t cut.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati: \u003c/strong>Prop one supporters and even the governor said that there’s more money available for these types of programs from other sources. You know, there’s efforts to get Medi-Cal to pay for these kind of services.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Well, let’s talk about what is next year, guys. Prop one is, I feel like, very complicated and and it’s ambitious. And now it’s passed. What are you going to be looking for? To see whether this is working? And could it, you think, make a real difference?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati: \u003c/strong>It’s hard to say. Now, I do think this is a historic investment in terms of, you know, just the amount of money that the state is, is putting forward. But we’ve seen historic investments in supportive housing in the past that haven’t totally moved the needle or changed conditions on the street just because the housing that gets built is only one piece.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati: \u003c/strong>There’s people who are still falling into homelessness. And here, of course, you’re talking about a very specific population of people experiencing homelessness. This isn’t for the entire universe of of unhoused people in California. This is a really specific size of people who have these compounding, you know, substance use or mental health challenges.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati: \u003c/strong>I do think Newsom is putting forward a pretty clear strategy when it comes to prioritizing. His argument is that the folks who really need this the most are the ones most visibly suffering. I guess time will tell, but Newsom is certainly laying down the marker that this is how he wants to be judged as governor of California.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Well, Guy, thank you as always for breaking this down. We really appreciate it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Guy Marzorati: \u003c/strong>My pleasure.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>That was Guy Marzorati, correspondent with KQED Politics and Government Desk. This 20 minute conversation with Guy was cut down and edited by a senior editor, Alan Montecillo. Maria Esquinca is our producer. She scored this episode and added all the tape music courtesy of the Audio Network.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>If you want to know how to support our show and keep local news thriving here at KQED, consider becoming a KQED member. Just go to KQED.com/Donate. I’m Ericka Cruz Guevarra. 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Bay FC, founded by four former U.S. Women National Team players, kicks off its home opener at PayPal Park in San Jose on Saturday, March 30.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Marisa Ingemi with the San Francisco Chronicle joins us to talk about how this team got started, which players to watch, and the Bay Area’s history as a hotbed for women’s soccer.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c!-- iframe plugin v.4.3 wordpress.org/plugins/iframe/ -->\u003cbr>\n\u003ciframe loading=\"lazy\" frameborder=\"0\" height=\"200\" scrolling=\"no\" src=\"https://playlist.megaphone.fm/?e=KQINC1337425478\" width=\"100%\" class=\"iframe-class\">\u003c/iframe>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Links:\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003ca href=\"https://www.sfchronicle.com/sports/article/bay-fc-african-strikers-nwsl-18972638.php\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">‘I’m here to win trophies’: Bay FC’s African strikers eager to make mark in NWSL\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003ca href=\"https://www.sfchronicle.com/sports/article/nwsl-beginner-guide-fc-fans-18764029.php\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">A beginner’s guide to the NWSL: Five things Bay FC fans should know\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003ch2 id=\"episode-transcript\">Episode Transcript\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp class=\"p1\">\u003ci>This is a computer-generated transcript. While our team has reviewed it, there may be errors.\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>I’m Ericka Cruz Guevarra and welcome to the Bay. Local news to keep you rooted. Well, the Bay’s got a new team to cheer for. Bay Football Club, or Bay FC, has kicked off their debut in the National Women’s Soccer League as the region’s only women’s pro sports team, and they’ve got some big ambitions.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Ingemi: \u003c/strong>They’re putting their money where their mouth is. They’re not just kind of happy to be here. They actually intend to be good on the field.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Bay FC’s inaugural home game is next Saturday at PayPal Park in San Jose. Today, I talked with the San Francisco Chronicle’s women’s sports reporter Marisa Ingemi about the Bay area’s newest professional women’s soccer team.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Ingemi: \u003c/strong>For a small region. It really is one of the hotbeds for women’s soccer in the country.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Marisa Ingemi covers women’s sports for the San Francisco Chronicle.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Ingemi: \u003c/strong>In the Bay specifically, you can see the growth just from the fact that this is the third pro team attempt and it just feels so different than two decades ago. I think a lot of that is because the U.S. women’s national team has had the profile that it has, especially since 2019. Then I think in general, just like women’s sports is having such a moment between basketball, soccer, volleyball, everything that everything’s building off of each other. It’s just such a different moment in time for women’s sports generally, that women’s soccer is kind of riding the wave of that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>You mentioned this is the the third attempt at a pro women’s soccer team here in the Bay. Is that right?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Ingemi: \u003c/strong>Yeah. FC gold pride in the WPSL. And I believe like 2008 and the San Jose cyber raise in the early early 2000 in like failed startup women’s leagues.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Oh my gosh cyber raid. Yeah that sounds very 2000.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Ingemi: \u003c/strong>Yes exactly.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Well I mean can you give us a sense of like what role the Bay area has played in the growth of women’s soccer over the years?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Ingemi: \u003c/strong>So to look at the women’s national team, where she’s so much Bay area talent on that team between Naomi Girma and went to Stanford, she’s from San Jose. Alex Morgan, who went to Cal UC Santa Clara alum like left and right again.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Ingemi: \u003c/strong>Even back to 1999, the big Women’s World Cup there really kind of spark the growth of women’s sports period in North America. Brandi Chastain was on that team. So. She scored a famous goal and now she’s the owner of this team. So you can see kind of like all the parallels of the Bay area really being almost like the breeding ground for the growth of women’s soccer. And you look across. There are so many players who went to Stanford, who went to Cal, to Santa Clara.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Well, you mentioned this is not the first attempt at a pro women’s soccer team. And there’s actually concurrently, another women’s soccer team that’s sort of growing at the same time, the Oakland Soul. But how big of a deal is BFC?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Ingemi: \u003c/strong>Yet. It’s a big deal in the sense of like the Bay area in general is kind of looking for more teams to rally around between the A’s leaving. The Raiders have left, the Warriors are still here, but they left Oakland and the earthquakes aren’t that good. So I think that people are kind of ready to rally around this new thing. And also like I said, women’s sports are kind of having this moment.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Ingemi: \u003c/strong>And even though the Bay is such a strong women’s sports market with like Stanford women’s basketball and things like that, they’re missing out a little bit. And now they kind of have this thing to rally around. Opening day on March 30th, I think it’s going to be a sellout. And, people just seem genuinely so excited to have a stake in what’s happening in women’s sports.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Well, I want to talk moreso about how this team even got started. How did BFC happen? Like what did it take?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Ingemi: \u003c/strong>Yeah. So a couple of years ago, the league started expanding a little bit more and they added teams in LA and San Diego and the LA team. Angel city FC did a tremendous job marketing. They had a high valuation of any women’s soccer team in the US. And that now owner is a Bay FC Brandi Chastain, Allie Wagner, Danielle Slayton and Leslie Osborne, who are all former women’s national team players and went to Santa Clara.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Ingemi: \u003c/strong>They saw that and were like, well, we should do that here. And they really made a tremendous push to get the capital raised to work with Sixth Street, who’s the investment group, to really establish that there was an audience who was interested in make a campaign to the NWSL of like, hey, when you guys expand, we want to be a part of that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Ingemi: \u003c/strong>BFC invested $53 million in an expansion fee, which is the largest for any NWSL team in women’s sports team before the WNBA expansion fee is a few months after that. They really just established that people were interested in the NWSL side. Yeah, go for it. And they didn’t have that much runway to build a team, but they got it done.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Yeah, I mean, that’s a lot of money invested in this team, right. And it’s I imagine also going to be used to build facilities and marketing and all that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Ingemi: \u003c/strong>Yeah. So 53 million is just an expansion fee. But they invested over I believe the number was 120 million overall, which is a gigantic investment for women’s soccer. We haven’t seen one like that except for the Kansas City Current. So yeah, I mean they’ve said all along their goal is to have their own stadium and especially their own training facility. Right now, they’re training at San Jose State where they have some of their own facilities.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Ingemi: \u003c/strong>They’re playing at PayPal Park, but they definitely are looking to invest in infrastructure over time and believe the deal is PayPal’s for five years. So we’ll see where things are at in the future. But their goal is to have staying power and to throw money at it so that they can.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Coming up, we’ll talk about the team and what’s going to make them worth cheering for. Stay with us.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Well, let’s talk about the team and the players. Marisa, this is a brand new team. It’s in its first year. Is the team already good or is it going to take some time for them to kind of get to that point?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Ingemi: \u003c/strong>I mean, expansion teams are tough because even if they have a lot of really good names, we don’t know what the chemistry is going to be or what it’s going to look like. Until about mid-January, they still didn’t have a full roster, and I was a little nervous, like, so like, do they have players or like who is going to be on the field? And then they just kind of went on an international spending spree. They brought in as Sara Shola, who scored their first goal and looked absolutely amazing in the game at Angel city, to open their season.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Ingemi: \u003c/strong>They signed her from Barcelona. A Nigerian player who’s just a stunning striker. They brought in Jen Beattie, who’s a well known defender from Arsenal.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Ingemi: \u003c/strong>Dina Castellanos from Venezuela, who was a tremendous midfielder for Manchester City, and then Rachel Energy from Zambia, who, played for Madrid. They have some very personable, players who have gotten a lot of notoriety internationally, but also can really play soccer really well.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Well, that said, is there anyone from the Bay playing for Bay FC?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Ingemi: \u003c/strong>Yeah, there’s a few connections. Caitlin Roland, who is likely to be the backup keeper for most of the season, is from Walnut Creek. She won an NWSL title a few years ago for the North Carolina Courage. She’s a veteran goalkeeper. She’ll definitely see some time. Alex Loera, who is their captain, at least in their first game they have a named an official captain for good yet, but she was the first player to be signed in BFC history.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Ingemi: \u003c/strong>Former Santa Clara player. Definitely a lot of people who are invested in the growth of women’s soccer in the Bay, and a lot of people who are new to the Bay, especially some of these international players who have never been here before, who the ones I’ve talked to so far have really loved getting to see San Francisco and San Jose and establish roots here.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>What about the head coach, Albertine montoya? What’s interesting about him, and why is his hiring as a head coach? Notable. I know he’s got some Bay connections as well, right?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Ingemi: \u003c/strong>Yeah, he’s probably the most connected person in Bay area women’s soccer possible. He’s been a youth coach at LA for a long time, and has really made a mark in the Bay area, coaching almost all the the future stars we’ve seen come out of the Bay from the time they were children. He coached both the Cyber Rays and FC Gold Pride, where he coached Brandi Chastain and Leslie Osborne actually decades ago now. And the players love him.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Ingemi: \u003c/strong>It’s interesting talking to every player that signed, like he’s a big reason why all of them have showed a sign of the team. He has a very specific style of play he wants to implement with the possessing the ball and being very aggressive, and a lot of the international players that have come to the Bay have wanted to play that style and play for him.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Bay FC has already played one game, as you mentioned, a winning one oh against Angel city. Did you watch that game?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Ingemi: \u003c/strong>Yeah, I was there.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>What was it like to be there at that first game?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Ingemi: \u003c/strong>It’s fun because Angel city is a team that BFC has gotten compared to the most. As far as like an expansion club that is really going for it. And, the owners of Bay FC are close with some of the founding members of Angel city, so that was kind of the natural opponent in the fan base.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Ingemi: \u003c/strong>They’re kind of close to. So the Bridge Brigade, who’s going to be the supporters group for BFC, was down there and they were like intermingling with some of the Angel city supporters groups. It was so cute. They actually had like friendship bracelets that have like the colors of both of the teams, like welcoming them to the league. Gosh, yeah. Women’s sports fans are like such a close knit group because everyone’s kind of in it together.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Ingemi: \u003c/strong>So much of it is like accessible online compared to in the mainstream. So a lot of those bonds are formed. So even like teams that are going to be rivals, the fans are welcoming each other. It was really cool to see that people cared and made the trip. And, it’ll be even more fun to see like a whole stadium cheering them on.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Well, you mentioned earlier, Marisa, and next Saturday, the 30th is the inaugural home opener for Bay FC. What are you looking forward to seeing?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Ingemi: \u003c/strong>Yeah. So they’ve been saying it’s going to be a sellout. So I really want to see like this has been a couple of years in the works. And it’ll be really cool to kind of see the fruits of their labor and see an entire stadium cheering on, a Bay area women’s soccer team, and seeing the fan supporter section for the first time and whatever chance they come up with that will be really fun.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Ingemi: \u003c/strong>But also like it might be could it is debut by that point, we don’t know kind of when she’s going to be back if it’ll be this weekend or next, but that will be really fun. What are the reactions from Bay FC fans to see some of their favorites on the field, like who are their favorites? We don’t know. How are they going to react to someone like Oshoala, where let’s say in Peru, it’ll be really cool to kind of establish like what the fan culture is going to be, and that’s going to happen at the home stadium.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>I mean, I think we all know that women’s professional sports teams don’t get the same love as men’s teams. So I wonder more. So what do you think it’s going to take to make sure of this team’s success here in the Bay?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Ingemi: \u003c/strong>Women’s sports kind of is making its push into the mainstream kind of through women’s basketball, but women’s soccer as well. So I think now is probably the best time to capitalize on that wave. And I feel like I can’t go anywhere in the Bay without getting off the barge and seeing like a BFC ad or a billboard on the highway. Like, I kind of feel like they’re everywhere.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Ingemi: \u003c/strong>I think women’s sports, especially pro sports, that the level of like WNBA are kind of past that wave of are we going to survive? Like, I think they’re here to stay at this point. So now it’s a matter of like how much they can establish themselves in a sports culture in their region. I think fans are very going to be very willing to engage with the new team here, but I think there’s a really high potential for BFC to make a real impact.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Well, Marisa was so fun to talk with you. Thank you so much for joining us. I really appreciate it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Ingemi: \u003c/strong>Yeah. Thank you so much.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>That was Marisa Ingemi who covers women’s sports for the San Francisco Chronicle. This 25 minute conversation with Marisa was cut down and edited by producer Maria Esquinca. Alan Montecillo is our senior editor. He scored this episode and added all the tape music courtesy of First Come Music, Universal Production Music and The Audio Network.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>The rest of our podcast team here at KQED includes Jen Chien, our director of podcasts, Katie Sprenger, our podcast operations manager, Cesar Saldana, our podcast engagement producer, Maha Sanad our podcast engagement intern, Ellie Prickett-Morgan, our production intern, and Holly Kernan, our chief content officer. The Bay is a production of listener supported KQED in San Francisco. I’m Ericka Cruz Guevarra, thanks so much for listening. 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Bay FC, founded by four former U.S. Women National Team players, kicks off its home opener at PayPal Park in San Jose on Saturday, March 30.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">Marisa Ingemi with the San Francisco Chronicle joins us to talk about how this team got started, which players to watch, and the Bay Area’s history as a hotbed for women’s soccer.\u003c/span>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c!-- iframe plugin v.4.3 wordpress.org/plugins/iframe/ -->\u003cbr>\n\u003ciframe loading=\"lazy\" frameborder=\"0\" height=\"200\" scrolling=\"no\" src=\"https://playlist.megaphone.fm/?e=KQINC1337425478\" width=\"100%\" class=\"iframe-class\">\u003c/iframe>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Links:\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cul>\n\u003cli style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003ca href=\"https://www.sfchronicle.com/sports/article/bay-fc-african-strikers-nwsl-18972638.php\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">‘I’m here to win trophies’: Bay FC’s African strikers eager to make mark in NWSL\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003cli style=\"font-weight: 400\">\u003ca href=\"https://www.sfchronicle.com/sports/article/nwsl-beginner-guide-fc-fans-18764029.php\">\u003cspan style=\"font-weight: 400\">A beginner’s guide to the NWSL: Five things Bay FC fans should know\u003c/span>\u003c/a>\u003c/li>\n\u003c/ul>\n\u003ch2 id=\"episode-transcript\">Episode Transcript\u003c/h2>\n\u003cp class=\"p1\">\u003ci>This is a computer-generated transcript. While our team has reviewed it, there may be errors.\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>I’m Ericka Cruz Guevarra and welcome to the Bay. Local news to keep you rooted. Well, the Bay’s got a new team to cheer for. Bay Football Club, or Bay FC, has kicked off their debut in the National Women’s Soccer League as the region’s only women’s pro sports team, and they’ve got some big ambitions.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Ingemi: \u003c/strong>They’re putting their money where their mouth is. They’re not just kind of happy to be here. They actually intend to be good on the field.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Bay FC’s inaugural home game is next Saturday at PayPal Park in San Jose. Today, I talked with the San Francisco Chronicle’s women’s sports reporter Marisa Ingemi about the Bay area’s newest professional women’s soccer team.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Ingemi: \u003c/strong>For a small region. It really is one of the hotbeds for women’s soccer in the country.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Marisa Ingemi covers women’s sports for the San Francisco Chronicle.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Ingemi: \u003c/strong>In the Bay specifically, you can see the growth just from the fact that this is the third pro team attempt and it just feels so different than two decades ago. I think a lot of that is because the U.S. women’s national team has had the profile that it has, especially since 2019. Then I think in general, just like women’s sports is having such a moment between basketball, soccer, volleyball, everything that everything’s building off of each other. It’s just such a different moment in time for women’s sports generally, that women’s soccer is kind of riding the wave of that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>You mentioned this is the the third attempt at a pro women’s soccer team here in the Bay. Is that right?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Ingemi: \u003c/strong>Yeah. FC gold pride in the WPSL. And I believe like 2008 and the San Jose cyber raise in the early early 2000 in like failed startup women’s leagues.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Oh my gosh cyber raid. Yeah that sounds very 2000.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Ingemi: \u003c/strong>Yes exactly.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Well I mean can you give us a sense of like what role the Bay area has played in the growth of women’s soccer over the years?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Ingemi: \u003c/strong>So to look at the women’s national team, where she’s so much Bay area talent on that team between Naomi Girma and went to Stanford, she’s from San Jose. Alex Morgan, who went to Cal UC Santa Clara alum like left and right again.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Ingemi: \u003c/strong>Even back to 1999, the big Women’s World Cup there really kind of spark the growth of women’s sports period in North America. Brandi Chastain was on that team. So. She scored a famous goal and now she’s the owner of this team. So you can see kind of like all the parallels of the Bay area really being almost like the breeding ground for the growth of women’s soccer. And you look across. There are so many players who went to Stanford, who went to Cal, to Santa Clara.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Well, you mentioned this is not the first attempt at a pro women’s soccer team. And there’s actually concurrently, another women’s soccer team that’s sort of growing at the same time, the Oakland Soul. But how big of a deal is BFC?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Ingemi: \u003c/strong>Yet. It’s a big deal in the sense of like the Bay area in general is kind of looking for more teams to rally around between the A’s leaving. The Raiders have left, the Warriors are still here, but they left Oakland and the earthquakes aren’t that good. So I think that people are kind of ready to rally around this new thing. And also like I said, women’s sports are kind of having this moment.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Ingemi: \u003c/strong>And even though the Bay is such a strong women’s sports market with like Stanford women’s basketball and things like that, they’re missing out a little bit. And now they kind of have this thing to rally around. Opening day on March 30th, I think it’s going to be a sellout. And, people just seem genuinely so excited to have a stake in what’s happening in women’s sports.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Well, I want to talk moreso about how this team even got started. How did BFC happen? Like what did it take?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Ingemi: \u003c/strong>Yeah. So a couple of years ago, the league started expanding a little bit more and they added teams in LA and San Diego and the LA team. Angel city FC did a tremendous job marketing. They had a high valuation of any women’s soccer team in the US. And that now owner is a Bay FC Brandi Chastain, Allie Wagner, Danielle Slayton and Leslie Osborne, who are all former women’s national team players and went to Santa Clara.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Ingemi: \u003c/strong>They saw that and were like, well, we should do that here. And they really made a tremendous push to get the capital raised to work with Sixth Street, who’s the investment group, to really establish that there was an audience who was interested in make a campaign to the NWSL of like, hey, when you guys expand, we want to be a part of that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Ingemi: \u003c/strong>BFC invested $53 million in an expansion fee, which is the largest for any NWSL team in women’s sports team before the WNBA expansion fee is a few months after that. They really just established that people were interested in the NWSL side. Yeah, go for it. And they didn’t have that much runway to build a team, but they got it done.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Yeah, I mean, that’s a lot of money invested in this team, right. And it’s I imagine also going to be used to build facilities and marketing and all that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Ingemi: \u003c/strong>Yeah. So 53 million is just an expansion fee. But they invested over I believe the number was 120 million overall, which is a gigantic investment for women’s soccer. We haven’t seen one like that except for the Kansas City Current. So yeah, I mean they’ve said all along their goal is to have their own stadium and especially their own training facility. Right now, they’re training at San Jose State where they have some of their own facilities.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Ingemi: \u003c/strong>They’re playing at PayPal Park, but they definitely are looking to invest in infrastructure over time and believe the deal is PayPal’s for five years. So we’ll see where things are at in the future. But their goal is to have staying power and to throw money at it so that they can.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Coming up, we’ll talk about the team and what’s going to make them worth cheering for. Stay with us.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Well, let’s talk about the team and the players. Marisa, this is a brand new team. It’s in its first year. Is the team already good or is it going to take some time for them to kind of get to that point?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Ingemi: \u003c/strong>I mean, expansion teams are tough because even if they have a lot of really good names, we don’t know what the chemistry is going to be or what it’s going to look like. Until about mid-January, they still didn’t have a full roster, and I was a little nervous, like, so like, do they have players or like who is going to be on the field? And then they just kind of went on an international spending spree. They brought in as Sara Shola, who scored their first goal and looked absolutely amazing in the game at Angel city, to open their season.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Ingemi: \u003c/strong>They signed her from Barcelona. A Nigerian player who’s just a stunning striker. They brought in Jen Beattie, who’s a well known defender from Arsenal.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Ingemi: \u003c/strong>Dina Castellanos from Venezuela, who was a tremendous midfielder for Manchester City, and then Rachel Energy from Zambia, who, played for Madrid. They have some very personable, players who have gotten a lot of notoriety internationally, but also can really play soccer really well.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Well, that said, is there anyone from the Bay playing for Bay FC?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Ingemi: \u003c/strong>Yeah, there’s a few connections. Caitlin Roland, who is likely to be the backup keeper for most of the season, is from Walnut Creek. She won an NWSL title a few years ago for the North Carolina Courage. She’s a veteran goalkeeper. She’ll definitely see some time. Alex Loera, who is their captain, at least in their first game they have a named an official captain for good yet, but she was the first player to be signed in BFC history.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Ingemi: \u003c/strong>Former Santa Clara player. Definitely a lot of people who are invested in the growth of women’s soccer in the Bay, and a lot of people who are new to the Bay, especially some of these international players who have never been here before, who the ones I’ve talked to so far have really loved getting to see San Francisco and San Jose and establish roots here.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>What about the head coach, Albertine montoya? What’s interesting about him, and why is his hiring as a head coach? Notable. I know he’s got some Bay connections as well, right?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Ingemi: \u003c/strong>Yeah, he’s probably the most connected person in Bay area women’s soccer possible. He’s been a youth coach at LA for a long time, and has really made a mark in the Bay area, coaching almost all the the future stars we’ve seen come out of the Bay from the time they were children. He coached both the Cyber Rays and FC Gold Pride, where he coached Brandi Chastain and Leslie Osborne actually decades ago now. And the players love him.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Ingemi: \u003c/strong>It’s interesting talking to every player that signed, like he’s a big reason why all of them have showed a sign of the team. He has a very specific style of play he wants to implement with the possessing the ball and being very aggressive, and a lot of the international players that have come to the Bay have wanted to play that style and play for him.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Bay FC has already played one game, as you mentioned, a winning one oh against Angel city. Did you watch that game?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Ingemi: \u003c/strong>Yeah, I was there.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>What was it like to be there at that first game?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Ingemi: \u003c/strong>It’s fun because Angel city is a team that BFC has gotten compared to the most. As far as like an expansion club that is really going for it. And, the owners of Bay FC are close with some of the founding members of Angel city, so that was kind of the natural opponent in the fan base.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Ingemi: \u003c/strong>They’re kind of close to. So the Bridge Brigade, who’s going to be the supporters group for BFC, was down there and they were like intermingling with some of the Angel city supporters groups. It was so cute. They actually had like friendship bracelets that have like the colors of both of the teams, like welcoming them to the league. Gosh, yeah. Women’s sports fans are like such a close knit group because everyone’s kind of in it together.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Ingemi: \u003c/strong>So much of it is like accessible online compared to in the mainstream. So a lot of those bonds are formed. So even like teams that are going to be rivals, the fans are welcoming each other. It was really cool to see that people cared and made the trip. And, it’ll be even more fun to see like a whole stadium cheering them on.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>Well, you mentioned earlier, Marisa, and next Saturday, the 30th is the inaugural home opener for Bay FC. What are you looking forward to seeing?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Ingemi: \u003c/strong>Yeah. So they’ve been saying it’s going to be a sellout. So I really want to see like this has been a couple of years in the works. And it’ll be really cool to kind of see the fruits of their labor and see an entire stadium cheering on, a Bay area women’s soccer team, and seeing the fan supporter section for the first time and whatever chance they come up with that will be really fun.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Ingemi: \u003c/strong>But also like it might be could it is debut by that point, we don’t know kind of when she’s going to be back if it’ll be this weekend or next, but that will be really fun. What are the reactions from Bay FC fans to see some of their favorites on the field, like who are their favorites? We don’t know. How are they going to react to someone like Oshoala, where let’s say in Peru, it’ll be really cool to kind of establish like what the fan culture is going to be, and that’s going to happen at the home stadium.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Ericka Cruz Guevarra: \u003c/strong>I mean, I think we all know that women’s professional sports teams don’t get the same love as men’s teams. So I wonder more. So what do you think it’s going to take to make sure of this team’s success here in the Bay?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Marisa Ingemi: \u003c/strong>Women’s sports kind of is making its push into the mainstream kind of through women’s basketball, but women’s soccer as well. So I think now is probably the best time to capitalize on that wave. And I feel like I can’t go anywhere in the Bay without getting off the barge and seeing like a BFC ad or a billboard on the highway. 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