Meet the New Faces of the World's Biggest Comedy Festival
Mindy Kaling And Emma Thompson Shatter The 'Late Night' Glass Ceiling
After 12 Seasons, 'Big Bang' Writers Bid Farewell To Their 'Surrogate Family'
'What We Do In The Shadows' Puts The Dead In Deadpan
How 'Friends' and 'Seinfeld' Changed the Way We Talk
Remembering Gerri Lawlor, 'Sims' Voice Actor, Improv Star and Homeless Advocate
"You Get Paid For Doing Therapy": Stand-Up Comedians Talk Anger
Sara Benincasa Talks Excellent Coats on Irritated Women, Mental Health and Sexy Ghosts
Abbi Jacobson is Traveling Far Beyond 'Broad City'—And Fast
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There's a way she throws her voice and arm into a joke about what kind of person is allowed to give what kind of handshake that is so assured that you forget for a second how hard she's roasting herself.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8b0WCTjK-M\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"text-align: center\">\u003cstrong>Andrew Stanley\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>There was an endearing stiffness to Andrew Stanley's set. He told the audience he was home-schooled for the first 10 years of his life and still involved with his church, but he doesn't lean strongly on the gee-whiz-golly of it all. Instead, he takes his shots at the same Christian institutions that usually hire him.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsmr84MGNkA\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"text-align: center\">\u003cstrong>Tacarra Williams\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Petty revenge stories are great because everyone can agree that nobody comes off great here, and we can all just enjoy the ride. Except Tacarra Williams' bit is her enacting some sort of revenge on her three kids, and she's more than happy to luxuriate in playing the heel.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gpax4PRz8Us\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"fullattribution\">\u003cem>Copyright 2019 NPR. To see more, visit \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org\">NPR\u003c/a>.\u003cimg src=\"https://www.google-analytics.com/__utm.gif?utmac=UA-5828686-4&utmdt=New+Faces+Emerge+At+The+World%27s+Biggest+Comedy+Festival&utme=8(APIKey)9(MDAxOTAwOTE4MDEyMTkxMDAzNjczZDljZA004)\">\u003c/em>\u003c/div>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"At Just For Laughs in Montreal, a series of events showcase up-and-coming talent—and has a history of giving comics their first big break. 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But at the other end of the spectrum, a new crop of hopefuls sought to get their names out into the world.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At the popular and long-running New Faces showcases, the performers get only six minutes each. But they perform in a small theater packed with agents and other industry professionals scouting for new talent.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The comedian \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2017/03/21/520950326/comic-pete-holmes-draws-on-his-early-career-and-churchy-roots-in-crashing\">Pete Holmes\u003c/a>, who was once himself a New Face, introduced the sets from the stage. \"This matters to them,\" he said. \"It doesn't matter to us.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Just to get a New Faces slot is a big deal in comedy circles. \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2017/10/12/557331357/jimmy-fallon-on-the-school-of-snl-and-his-tendency-to-smile-too-much\">Jimmy Fallon\u003c/a> was a Just for Laughs New Face. So were \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2013/09/12/221456050/hannibal-buress-and-the-comedy-of-the-unexpected\">Hannibal Buress\u003c/a>, \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2016/08/02/484163577/marriage-and-motherhood-are-a-source-of-power-says-comic-ali-wong\">Ali Wong\u003c/a> and Kevin Hart himself.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>There was plenty of strong talent in this year's batch of New Faces—a program that now also features digital content creators and character-based comedians—but here are 10 standouts. 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There's a self-aware, 1930s vibe that Einbinder played with throughout her whole set—it's not so much that she romanticizes that era, but it's a ridiculous premise that lets her shift around her voice as needed.\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"vimeoLink","attributes":{"named":{"vimeoId":"321350450"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp style=\"text-align: center\">\u003cstrong>Shane Gillis\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Shane Gillis gives off post-jock energy—like someone who used to play a sport in school, then had the self-awareness to realize he wasn't cut out for it and stopped—but he isn't bitter about it at all. His friendly demeanor distracts you, while he sneaks in just a whiff of social insight within a barrage of self-deprecating sex jokes.\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutube'>\n \u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutubeInside'>\n \u003ciframe\n loading='lazy'\n class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__youtubePlayer'\n type='text/html'\n src='//www.youtube.com/embed/R0pfZygi2t8'\n title='//www.youtube.com/embed/R0pfZygi2t8'\n allowfullscreen='true'\n style='border:0;'>\u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/span>\n \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cp style=\"text-align: center\">\u003cstrong>Shapel Lacey\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Shapel Lacey walked on stage emitting a doe-eyedness that was a perfect setup to talking about anger issues. He is relatively new to the comedy scene in Los Angeles, having come from Phoenix, Ariz., and a lot of his material comes from that dissonance—he closed with an alternate version of Oasis' \"Wonderwall\" that perfectly captures how out-of-step he feels.\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutube'>\n \u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutubeInside'>\n \u003ciframe\n loading='lazy'\n class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__youtubePlayer'\n type='text/html'\n src='//www.youtube.com/embed/CnnvhpwUmWw'\n title='//www.youtube.com/embed/CnnvhpwUmWw'\n allowfullscreen='true'\n style='border:0;'>\u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/span>\n \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cp style=\"text-align: center\">\u003cstrong>Dan Licata\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A description of Dan Licata's stage persona would include the words nervy, overconfident, Italian American, dumb and scheming, but the order depends on whatever Licata needs at the moment to keep the momentum going. 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It's an awkward-sounding phrase that's difficult to get your mouth around, but just evocative enough that you can just ... taste it.\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutube'>\n \u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutubeInside'>\n \u003ciframe\n loading='lazy'\n class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__youtubePlayer'\n type='text/html'\n src='//www.youtube.com/embed/VdmAbiFAKeQ'\n title='//www.youtube.com/embed/VdmAbiFAKeQ'\n allowfullscreen='true'\n style='border:0;'>\u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/span>\n \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cp style=\"text-align: center\">\u003cstrong>Lael O'Shaughnessy\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Lael O'Shaughnessy self-deprecating humor would come off as a bit much if she weren't so confident about it. There's a way she throws her voice and arm into a joke about what kind of person is allowed to give what kind of handshake that is so assured that you forget for a second how hard she's roasting herself.\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutube'>\n \u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutubeInside'>\n \u003ciframe\n loading='lazy'\n class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__youtubePlayer'\n type='text/html'\n src='//www.youtube.com/embed/S8b0WCTjK-M'\n title='//www.youtube.com/embed/S8b0WCTjK-M'\n allowfullscreen='true'\n style='border:0;'>\u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/span>\n \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cp style=\"text-align: center\">\u003cstrong>Andrew Stanley\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>There was an endearing stiffness to Andrew Stanley's set. He told the audience he was home-schooled for the first 10 years of his life and still involved with his church, but he doesn't lean strongly on the gee-whiz-golly of it all. Instead, he takes his shots at the same Christian institutions that usually hire him.\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutube'>\n \u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutubeInside'>\n \u003ciframe\n loading='lazy'\n class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__youtubePlayer'\n type='text/html'\n src='//www.youtube.com/embed/bsmr84MGNkA'\n title='//www.youtube.com/embed/bsmr84MGNkA'\n allowfullscreen='true'\n style='border:0;'>\u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/span>\n \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cp style=\"text-align: center\">\u003cstrong>Tacarra Williams\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Petty revenge stories are great because everyone can agree that nobody comes off great here, and we can all just enjoy the ride. Except Tacarra Williams' bit is her enacting some sort of revenge on her three kids, and she's more than happy to luxuriate in playing the heel.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutube'>\n \u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutubeInside'>\n \u003ciframe\n loading='lazy'\n class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__youtubePlayer'\n type='text/html'\n src='//www.youtube.com/embed/Gpax4PRz8Us'\n title='//www.youtube.com/embed/Gpax4PRz8Us'\n allowfullscreen='true'\n style='border:0;'>\u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/span>\n \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cdiv class=\"fullattribution\">\u003cem>Copyright 2019 NPR. To see more, visit \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org\">NPR\u003c/a>.\u003cimg src=\"https://www.google-analytics.com/__utm.gif?utmac=UA-5828686-4&utmdt=New+Faces+Emerge+At+The+World%27s+Biggest+Comedy+Festival&utme=8(APIKey)9(MDAxOTAwOTE4MDEyMTkxMDAzNjczZDljZA004)\">\u003c/em>\u003c/div>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/pop/113096/meet-the-new-faces-of-the-worlds-biggest-comedy-festival","authors":["byline_pop_113096"],"categories":["pop_2696"],"tags":["pop_3341"],"featImg":"pop_113097","label":"pop"},"pop_112397":{"type":"posts","id":"pop_112397","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"pop","id":"112397","score":null,"sort":[1560797688000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"mindy-kaling-and-emma-thompson-shatter-the-late-night-glass-ceiling","title":"Mindy Kaling And Emma Thompson Shatter The 'Late Night' Glass Ceiling","publishDate":1560797688,"format":"standard","headTitle":"KQED Pop | KQED Arts","labelTerm":{"site":"pop"},"content":"\u003cp>There's a funny thing about late night TV, says Mindy Kaling. Watching these shows, \"there's such a \u003cem>joie de vivre\u003c/em>\"—but it's at odds with the \"ruthlessness and mercilessness\" that goes into making the show behind the scenes. \"I was obsessed with how all these people could be working so hard and be so competitive to make a product that is so entertaining and light,\" Kaling says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Kaling explores that dichotomy—and the racism, ageism and sexism of television—in her new film \u003cem>Late Night.\u003c/em> Emma Thompson stars as talk show host Katherine Newbury, a once-popular comic who broke through the glass ceiling of late-night comedy, only to pull up the ladder behind her and settle into a stale, predictable show fed by a crew of all-white, male writers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Then Molly Patel, played by Kaling, is hired—on a whim, as a diversity hire—and starts to shake things up.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Kaling wrote the role with Thompson in mind. \"Emma is my favorite living actor,\" Kaling says. \"I've loved her since I was an 11-year old girl and I saw her in \u003cem>Much Ado About Nothing\u003c/em>.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Thompson—a self-described \"Luddite\"—doesn't watch much television and wasn't terribly familiar with Kaling's work. Feeling a little \"irrelevant,\" she worried that Kaling had perhaps imagined a role for her as \"an elderly archaeologist in Dorset.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She had not.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Thompson read the script and: \"Forty-eight hours later rang my agent and said, 'Please tell her that I couldn't be more thrilled and that I will start tomorrow.'\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Kaling and Thompson talked with NPR about the \"macho\" world of late night, the perception of powerful women, and the connotations of the term \"diversity hire.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxefiCjQirw\u003c/p>\n\u003chr>\n\u003ch3>Interview Highlights\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>On writing the role of a female late night host\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Kaling: \u003c/strong>I've wanted to write about late night so much because I'm one of those comedy nerds that was obsessed with it growing up. I read every book about it. I was an intern at \u003cem>Late Night with Conan O'Brien\u003c/em> before I moved over into the half-hour world to work on \u003cem>The Office\u003c/em>. But that environment is very famous—even among comedy writers—because it is hyper-masculine, hyper-competitive, very ruthless. And I was not interested really, in writing a movie with an older white male lead, which is what we see in a lot of these shows.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I had always wanted to write something for Emma Thompson. ... For me, you know, so many actors can do dramatic roles and we give them awards to do it, but so few can be funny and do drama. ... Emma can do both, and she became very famous doing drama, but she comes from comedy, she comes from sketch. ...\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I said I know it's science fiction for there to be a female late-night talk show host—and even more so for her to have had the job for 30 years—but it was the only thing that made sense for me to write.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>On playing a female boss who evolves\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Thompson:\u003c/strong> I think there is something a little bit macho about the late-night slot—a little bit 1970s, \u003cem>Saturday Night Live,\u003c/em> everybody's up all night taking coke, John Belushi is announcing that \u003ca href=\"https://www.nytimes.com/1992/02/16/arts/television-women-in-the-locker-room-at-saturday-night-live.html\">\"women aren't funny\"\u003c/a> and it's a tough old world for a woman. [My character] Katherine is the person who managed to survive it ... but she's also bright enough to recognize that she's got to change and she's got to listen. ...\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>What's so wonderful about this story is: So often when you've got a female boss in a movie, she doesn't change. She's just the evil stepmother, the evil boss, the cold, arrogant, archetype person. But what Mindy's done is create an actual person—a living, breathing person—who, at the beginning, does find it difficult to accept, actually, the fact that she's no longer as successful as she thought she was.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She suddenly realizes that she's been complacent and because she is genuinely committed to being excellent, she decides she's got to change. And it takes a while, but finally Mindy's character does break through to her. They create a working relationship that's so fun to watch developing and doesn't turn all soft and fluffy at the end. It just becomes something very real, very believable and very uplifting.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_112398\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-112398\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2019/06/ap_19137575169745_custom-74dd34ccbaa0cceef73dda8d5b6bbf4a68c114a4-800x533.jpg\" alt='Mindy Kaling, right, wrote the lead role in Late Night with Emma Thompson in mind. They filmed the movie in a \"white heat of passion\" in 25 days, Thompson says. They are pictured above in London in May 2019.' width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/06/ap_19137575169745_custom-74dd34ccbaa0cceef73dda8d5b6bbf4a68c114a4-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/06/ap_19137575169745_custom-74dd34ccbaa0cceef73dda8d5b6bbf4a68c114a4-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/06/ap_19137575169745_custom-74dd34ccbaa0cceef73dda8d5b6bbf4a68c114a4-768x511.jpg 768w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/06/ap_19137575169745_custom-74dd34ccbaa0cceef73dda8d5b6bbf4a68c114a4-1020x679.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/06/ap_19137575169745_custom-74dd34ccbaa0cceef73dda8d5b6bbf4a68c114a4-1200x799.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/06/ap_19137575169745_custom-74dd34ccbaa0cceef73dda8d5b6bbf4a68c114a4-1920x1279.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/06/ap_19137575169745_custom-74dd34ccbaa0cceef73dda8d5b6bbf4a68c114a4.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Mindy Kaling, right, wrote the lead role in Late Night with Emma Thompson in mind. They filmed the movie in a \"white heat of passion\" in 25 days, Thompson says. They are pictured above in London in May 2019. \u003ccite>(Matt Dunham/AP)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>On female authority being perceived as \"cold\"\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Kaling:\u003c/strong> Katherine's character does not care what people's reactions are to her honest answers and honest desires. If she sees any kind of inefficiency she calls it out, without anger. And it's interesting—we've been doing press for the movie and everyone has been using words like \"bitchy\" and \"cold,\" and it's not that she's bitchy and cold, she's just dispassionately expressing what she needs. ...\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Thompson:\u003c/strong> Especially if you're pathologically nice, or you want to be kind to everybody—like me—playing Katherine was a kind of a five-week holiday from having to look after everybody. It was so blissful just turning around to someone who was boring me and say, \"I'm not interested, shut up.\" And then not apologizing for the rest of the week about it. ....\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Kaling:\u003c/strong> A man is entitled to have a private life. ... When I was writing it I didn't particularly think that Emma was cold. I thought that the character was crisp and to-the-point and direct. And those are qualities that are so positive in male leaders. But in a woman, they turned certain people off. People are so uncomfortable with the possibility that a woman would be direct in her communication.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>On what the movie says about diversity and hiring\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Kaling:\u003c/strong> We talk a lot in the movie about the fact that Molly is a diversity hire and I can't think of another movie or TV show that really talks about this head-on with that term. The truth of the matter is the term has really pejorative connotations. I was a diversity hire at \u003cem>The Office\u003c/em> when I started writing, and it's the reason I had the job—because NBC was paying my salary so that \u003cem>The Office \u003c/em>could hire me without having to take a hit on their budget. ...\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For years I was so embarrassed by that and I never wanted anyone to know—although of course it was plain as day. It wasn't until years later that I realized that that program and diversity hire is something that I should be wearing proudly, because what it did was it gave me access to work on a show that I would not have had otherwise.\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"fullattribution\">\u003cem>Copyright 2019 NPR. To see more, visit \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org.\">NPR\u003c/a>.\u003cimg src=\"https://www.google-analytics.com/__utm.gif?utmac=UA-5828686-4&utmdt=Mindy+Kaling+And+Emma+Thompson+Shatter+The+%27Late+Night%27+Glass+Ceiling&utme=8(APIKey)9(MDAxOTAwOTE4MDEyMTkxMDAzNjczZDljZA004)\">\u003c/em>\u003c/div>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Thompson plays a successful TV host who pulled the ladder up behind her in the movie 'Late Night.' 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Watching these shows, \"there's such a \u003cem>joie de vivre\u003c/em>\"—but it's at odds with the \"ruthlessness and mercilessness\" that goes into making the show behind the scenes. \"I was obsessed with how all these people could be working so hard and be so competitive to make a product that is so entertaining and light,\" Kaling says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Kaling explores that dichotomy—and the racism, ageism and sexism of television—in her new film \u003cem>Late Night.\u003c/em> Emma Thompson stars as talk show host Katherine Newbury, a once-popular comic who broke through the glass ceiling of late-night comedy, only to pull up the ladder behind her and settle into a stale, predictable show fed by a crew of all-white, male writers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Then Molly Patel, played by Kaling, is hired—on a whim, as a diversity hire—and starts to shake things up.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Kaling wrote the role with Thompson in mind. \"Emma is my favorite living actor,\" Kaling says. \"I've loved her since I was an 11-year old girl and I saw her in \u003cem>Much Ado About Nothing\u003c/em>.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Thompson—a self-described \"Luddite\"—doesn't watch much television and wasn't terribly familiar with Kaling's work. Feeling a little \"irrelevant,\" she worried that Kaling had perhaps imagined a role for her as \"an elderly archaeologist in Dorset.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She had not.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Thompson read the script and: \"Forty-eight hours later rang my agent and said, 'Please tell her that I couldn't be more thrilled and that I will start tomorrow.'\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Kaling and Thompson talked with NPR about the \"macho\" world of late night, the perception of powerful women, and the connotations of the term \"diversity hire.\"\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutube'>\n \u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutubeInside'>\n \u003ciframe\n loading='lazy'\n class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__youtubePlayer'\n type='text/html'\n src='//www.youtube.com/embed/DxefiCjQirw'\n title='//www.youtube.com/embed/DxefiCjQirw'\n allowfullscreen='true'\n style='border:0;'>\u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/span>\n \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003chr>\n\u003ch3>Interview Highlights\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>On writing the role of a female late night host\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Kaling: \u003c/strong>I've wanted to write about late night so much because I'm one of those comedy nerds that was obsessed with it growing up. I read every book about it. I was an intern at \u003cem>Late Night with Conan O'Brien\u003c/em> before I moved over into the half-hour world to work on \u003cem>The Office\u003c/em>. But that environment is very famous—even among comedy writers—because it is hyper-masculine, hyper-competitive, very ruthless. And I was not interested really, in writing a movie with an older white male lead, which is what we see in a lot of these shows.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I had always wanted to write something for Emma Thompson. ... For me, you know, so many actors can do dramatic roles and we give them awards to do it, but so few can be funny and do drama. ... Emma can do both, and she became very famous doing drama, but she comes from comedy, she comes from sketch. ...\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I said I know it's science fiction for there to be a female late-night talk show host—and even more so for her to have had the job for 30 years—but it was the only thing that made sense for me to write.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>On playing a female boss who evolves\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Thompson:\u003c/strong> I think there is something a little bit macho about the late-night slot—a little bit 1970s, \u003cem>Saturday Night Live,\u003c/em> everybody's up all night taking coke, John Belushi is announcing that \u003ca href=\"https://www.nytimes.com/1992/02/16/arts/television-women-in-the-locker-room-at-saturday-night-live.html\">\"women aren't funny\"\u003c/a> and it's a tough old world for a woman. [My character] Katherine is the person who managed to survive it ... but she's also bright enough to recognize that she's got to change and she's got to listen. ...\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>What's so wonderful about this story is: So often when you've got a female boss in a movie, she doesn't change. She's just the evil stepmother, the evil boss, the cold, arrogant, archetype person. But what Mindy's done is create an actual person—a living, breathing person—who, at the beginning, does find it difficult to accept, actually, the fact that she's no longer as successful as she thought she was.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She suddenly realizes that she's been complacent and because she is genuinely committed to being excellent, she decides she's got to change. And it takes a while, but finally Mindy's character does break through to her. They create a working relationship that's so fun to watch developing and doesn't turn all soft and fluffy at the end. It just becomes something very real, very believable and very uplifting.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_112398\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-112398\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2019/06/ap_19137575169745_custom-74dd34ccbaa0cceef73dda8d5b6bbf4a68c114a4-800x533.jpg\" alt='Mindy Kaling, right, wrote the lead role in Late Night with Emma Thompson in mind. They filmed the movie in a \"white heat of passion\" in 25 days, Thompson says. They are pictured above in London in May 2019.' width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/06/ap_19137575169745_custom-74dd34ccbaa0cceef73dda8d5b6bbf4a68c114a4-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/06/ap_19137575169745_custom-74dd34ccbaa0cceef73dda8d5b6bbf4a68c114a4-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/06/ap_19137575169745_custom-74dd34ccbaa0cceef73dda8d5b6bbf4a68c114a4-768x511.jpg 768w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/06/ap_19137575169745_custom-74dd34ccbaa0cceef73dda8d5b6bbf4a68c114a4-1020x679.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/06/ap_19137575169745_custom-74dd34ccbaa0cceef73dda8d5b6bbf4a68c114a4-1200x799.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/06/ap_19137575169745_custom-74dd34ccbaa0cceef73dda8d5b6bbf4a68c114a4-1920x1279.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/06/ap_19137575169745_custom-74dd34ccbaa0cceef73dda8d5b6bbf4a68c114a4.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Mindy Kaling, right, wrote the lead role in Late Night with Emma Thompson in mind. They filmed the movie in a \"white heat of passion\" in 25 days, Thompson says. They are pictured above in London in May 2019. \u003ccite>(Matt Dunham/AP)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>On female authority being perceived as \"cold\"\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Kaling:\u003c/strong> Katherine's character does not care what people's reactions are to her honest answers and honest desires. If she sees any kind of inefficiency she calls it out, without anger. And it's interesting—we've been doing press for the movie and everyone has been using words like \"bitchy\" and \"cold,\" and it's not that she's bitchy and cold, she's just dispassionately expressing what she needs. ...\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Thompson:\u003c/strong> Especially if you're pathologically nice, or you want to be kind to everybody—like me—playing Katherine was a kind of a five-week holiday from having to look after everybody. It was so blissful just turning around to someone who was boring me and say, \"I'm not interested, shut up.\" And then not apologizing for the rest of the week about it. ....\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Kaling:\u003c/strong> A man is entitled to have a private life. ... When I was writing it I didn't particularly think that Emma was cold. I thought that the character was crisp and to-the-point and direct. And those are qualities that are so positive in male leaders. But in a woman, they turned certain people off. People are so uncomfortable with the possibility that a woman would be direct in her communication.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>On what the movie says about diversity and hiring\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Kaling:\u003c/strong> We talk a lot in the movie about the fact that Molly is a diversity hire and I can't think of another movie or TV show that really talks about this head-on with that term. The truth of the matter is the term has really pejorative connotations. I was a diversity hire at \u003cem>The Office\u003c/em> when I started writing, and it's the reason I had the job—because NBC was paying my salary so that \u003cem>The Office \u003c/em>could hire me without having to take a hit on their budget. ...\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For years I was so embarrassed by that and I never wanted anyone to know—although of course it was plain as day. It wasn't until years later that I realized that that program and diversity hire is something that I should be wearing proudly, because what it did was it gave me access to work on a show that I would not have had otherwise.\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"fullattribution\">\u003cem>Copyright 2019 NPR. To see more, visit \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org.\">NPR\u003c/a>.\u003cimg src=\"https://www.google-analytics.com/__utm.gif?utmac=UA-5828686-4&utmdt=Mindy+Kaling+And+Emma+Thompson+Shatter+The+%27Late+Night%27+Glass+Ceiling&utme=8(APIKey)9(MDAxOTAwOTE4MDEyMTkxMDAzNjczZDljZA004)\">\u003c/em>\u003c/div>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/pop/112397/mindy-kaling-and-emma-thompson-shatter-the-late-night-glass-ceiling","authors":["byline_pop_112397"],"categories":["pop_2696","pop_51","pop_3"],"tags":["pop_3715","pop_3716","pop_3714","pop_88","pop_770"],"featImg":"pop_112400","label":"pop"},"pop_111856":{"type":"posts","id":"pop_111856","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"pop","id":"111856","score":null,"sort":[1557956989000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"after-12-seasons-big-bang-writers-bid-farewell-to-their-surrogate-family","title":"After 12 Seasons, 'Big Bang' Writers Bid Farewell To Their 'Surrogate Family'","publishDate":1557956989,"format":"standard","headTitle":"KQED Pop | KQED Arts","labelTerm":{"site":"pop"},"content":"\u003cp>The hit TV show \u003cem>The Big Bang Theory \u003c/em>is signing off after a 12 season run—and the show's writers and creators aren't \u003cem>quite\u003c/em> ready to say goodbye. For more than a decade, the writers have pitched storylines and traded jabs from their creative space at Warner Bros. studios.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On their long conference table you'll find \u003cem>Star Wars\u003c/em> toys, e-mail about the structure of DNA, and the collected work of physicist Richard Feynman. There are \u003cem>Star Trek\u003c/em> screensavers on the TV monitors.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>The Big Bang Theory\u003c/em> was always a show for and about geeks and nerds, and that's why it's worked, says executive producer Chuck Lorre: \"The characters were outliers and felt somewhat disenfranchised from the world and clung to each other—they created a surrogate family,\" Lorre explains. He's proud that the show connected with viewers who didn't always fit in. \"This is for the rest of us who weren't the king and queen of the prom,\" he says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OKZN-6T-Hc\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Lorre co-created the show with Bill Prady, who long ago wrote computer software that he says was \"sold in your neighborhood Radio Shack.\" He talked with Lorre about how brilliant his coworkers were at programming—but how bad they could be interacting with people—women in particular.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Prady knew one programmer who could do amazing calculations in his head but couldn't manage to tip the waiters in a restaurant. When he shared that story, Lorre said, \"Hang on, I've never seen that guy on television.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Lorre and Prady made their \u003cem>Big Bang\u003c/em> protagonists scientists, not programmers: Sheldon (Jim Parsons), a fastidious genius and his best friend and fellow physicist Leonard (Johnny Galecki). The show also features their Caltech friends Raj (Kunal Nayyar), an astrophysicist scared of talking to women, and Howard (Simon Helberg) an astronaut with an overbearing mom. Sheldon eventually marries neurobiologist Amy (Mayim Bialik) and Leonard weds Penny (Kaley Cuoco), an aspiring actor turned pharmaceutical rep who started out as their neighbor.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The writers say one of their favorite moments was when Penny gifted Sheldon a napkin from the restaurant where she worked. It was autographed, \"To Sheldon: Live Long and Prosper. Leonard Nimoy.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When she apologizes for the napkin being dirty—\"He wiped his mouth with it,\" she explains—Sheldon gasps: \"I possess the DNA of Leonard Nimoy!?\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Writer Steve Molaro says this scene was key to the evolution of the show. \"That was the first truly electric moment,\" he says. \"You could just feel what we were doing vibrating.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_111858\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-111858\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2019/05/tbbt_ep702_0982-rt_f_enl-2e4bd228fc253a79dc9e981f88826b09e9be06fd-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"Bill Prady, front left, and Chuck Lorre, front right, are the co-creators of 'The Big Bang Theory.'\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/05/tbbt_ep702_0982-rt_f_enl-2e4bd228fc253a79dc9e981f88826b09e9be06fd-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/05/tbbt_ep702_0982-rt_f_enl-2e4bd228fc253a79dc9e981f88826b09e9be06fd-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/05/tbbt_ep702_0982-rt_f_enl-2e4bd228fc253a79dc9e981f88826b09e9be06fd-768x512.jpg 768w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/05/tbbt_ep702_0982-rt_f_enl-2e4bd228fc253a79dc9e981f88826b09e9be06fd-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/05/tbbt_ep702_0982-rt_f_enl-2e4bd228fc253a79dc9e981f88826b09e9be06fd-1200x800.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/05/tbbt_ep702_0982-rt_f_enl-2e4bd228fc253a79dc9e981f88826b09e9be06fd-1920x1280.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/05/tbbt_ep702_0982-rt_f_enl-2e4bd228fc253a79dc9e981f88826b09e9be06fd.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Bill Prady, front left, and Chuck Lorre, front right, are the co-creators of 'The Big Bang Theory.' \u003ccite>(Mike Yarish/© 2019 Warner Bros. Entertainment Inc)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The writers say they also treasured quieter scenes—like the time Sheldon's friends throw him a birthday party and he gets overwhelmed and Penny finds him in the bathroom. She tells Sheldon that years ago, she would never have been friends with someone like him, but now he's one of her favorite people.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"If what you need is to spend your birthday in a bathroom, I'm happy to do it with you,\" she tells him.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"But everyone will think I'm weird,\" he says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Sweetie,\" she responds, \"You \u003cem>are\u003c/em> weird.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Over the years, the show has welcomed appropriately nerdy guest stars: Nobel laureates, astronauts, actors from \u003cem>Star Wars \u003c/em>and \u003cem>Star Trek—\u003c/em>even physicist Stephen Hawking. The writers took cues from the latest scientific breakthroughs and they regularly consulted with \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2013/09/23/224404260/the-man-who-gets-the-science-right-on-the-big-bang-theory\">UCLA physicist David Saltzberg\u003c/a> to make sure their scripts were scientifically plausible.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Sometimes you just send him the script with big blank sections to be filled in with appropriate science so that we're not ridiculed,\" says Lorre.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Writer Steve Holland adds \"sometimes, we say things to him like 'Sheldon and Amy need to have a discovery that could be worthy of a Nobel Prize but [it] can't be something anyone else has already thought of. So: go!\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Saltzberg came up with the fictitious theory of \"Super Asymmetry,\" which was sort of a riff on the real-life physics theory of Super Symmetry.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4Z3i9OXAEA\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Theoreticians love symmetrical equations, but the world around us is clearly asymmetrical,\" Saltzberg says. \"What theoretical physicists often do is create a theory with lots of symmetry, but then break it, to explain our world. ... The brilliance of Amy and Sheldon was to include asymmetry into their theory from the start.'\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Saltzberg adds that he hopes a physicist watching the show would at least chuckle—and then think about it seriously. \"As for details, I will need to read Amy and Sheldon's publication very closely to tell you more,\" he says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Super Asymmetry may be made-up, but in 2010, scientists \u003cem>did \u003c/em>end up winning a Nobel Prize for research into \"graphene\"—a subject that was mentioned on a whiteboard in the background of \u003cem>The\u003c/em> \u003cem>Big Bang Theory \u003c/em>earlier that year. The prize-winning scientist cited the episode \u003ca href=\"https://www.nobelprize.org/mediaplayer/?id=1420\">in his Nobel lecture.\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Writer Dave Goetsch says he'll miss generating show ideas from real world science. Stories would catch his eye online and he'd say: \"Oh that's going to make an amazing episode.\" He says he can't bring himself to turn off his daily Google alert for physics news.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Most of writers have been together for 12 years, and many are now also executive producers of the show. Maria Ferrari says she'll miss this writing team. \"Most jobs, you go off and you write your scripts and then you come back and you punch it up together,\" she says. \"Here, we write it all together. That's the only thing I feel like I know how to do: is write, in this room, for this show. It is so hard to leave it behind.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Bill Prady gets emotional when he talks about how fans have connected with the show—and for him, it's personal. \"All of the people who have said that they see themselves in the show because they were outsiders and people who didn't fit in—that was me,\" he says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>No spoilers for the show's emotional final episode—which airs Thursday on CBS—but no doubt it will end as it all began, with a Big Bang.\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"fullattribution\">\u003cem>Copyright 2019 NPR. To see more, visit \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org\">NPR\u003c/a>.\u003cimg src=\"https://www.google-analytics.com/__utm.gif?utmac=UA-5828686-4&utmdt=After+12+Seasons%2C+%27Big+Bang%27+Writers+Bid+Farewell+To+Their+%27Surrogate+Family%27&utme=8(APIKey)9(MDAxOTAwOTE4MDEyMTkxMDAzNjczZDljZA004)\">\u003c/em>\u003c/div>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"The final ever episode of the hit CBS show airs Thursday night, and it's a bittersweet ending for its team of writers, creators and \"outsiders.\" ","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1557956989,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":true,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":26,"wordCount":1087},"headData":{"title":"After 12 Seasons, 'Big Bang' Writers Bid Farewell To Their 'Surrogate Family' | KQED","description":"The final ever episode of the hit CBS show airs Thursday night, and it's a bittersweet ending for its team of writers, creators and "outsiders." 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For more than a decade, the writers have pitched storylines and traded jabs from their creative space at Warner Bros. studios.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On their long conference table you'll find \u003cem>Star Wars\u003c/em> toys, e-mail about the structure of DNA, and the collected work of physicist Richard Feynman. There are \u003cem>Star Trek\u003c/em> screensavers on the TV monitors.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>The Big Bang Theory\u003c/em> was always a show for and about geeks and nerds, and that's why it's worked, says executive producer Chuck Lorre: \"The characters were outliers and felt somewhat disenfranchised from the world and clung to each other—they created a surrogate family,\" Lorre explains. He's proud that the show connected with viewers who didn't always fit in. \"This is for the rest of us who weren't the king and queen of the prom,\" he says.\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutube'>\n \u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutubeInside'>\n \u003ciframe\n loading='lazy'\n class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__youtubePlayer'\n type='text/html'\n src='//www.youtube.com/embed/0OKZN-6T-Hc'\n title='//www.youtube.com/embed/0OKZN-6T-Hc'\n allowfullscreen='true'\n style='border:0;'>\u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/span>\n \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cp>Lorre co-created the show with Bill Prady, who long ago wrote computer software that he says was \"sold in your neighborhood Radio Shack.\" He talked with Lorre about how brilliant his coworkers were at programming—but how bad they could be interacting with people—women in particular.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Prady knew one programmer who could do amazing calculations in his head but couldn't manage to tip the waiters in a restaurant. When he shared that story, Lorre said, \"Hang on, I've never seen that guy on television.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Lorre and Prady made their \u003cem>Big Bang\u003c/em> protagonists scientists, not programmers: Sheldon (Jim Parsons), a fastidious genius and his best friend and fellow physicist Leonard (Johnny Galecki). The show also features their Caltech friends Raj (Kunal Nayyar), an astrophysicist scared of talking to women, and Howard (Simon Helberg) an astronaut with an overbearing mom. Sheldon eventually marries neurobiologist Amy (Mayim Bialik) and Leonard weds Penny (Kaley Cuoco), an aspiring actor turned pharmaceutical rep who started out as their neighbor.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The writers say one of their favorite moments was when Penny gifted Sheldon a napkin from the restaurant where she worked. It was autographed, \"To Sheldon: Live Long and Prosper. Leonard Nimoy.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When she apologizes for the napkin being dirty—\"He wiped his mouth with it,\" she explains—Sheldon gasps: \"I possess the DNA of Leonard Nimoy!?\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Writer Steve Molaro says this scene was key to the evolution of the show. \"That was the first truly electric moment,\" he says. \"You could just feel what we were doing vibrating.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_111858\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-111858\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2019/05/tbbt_ep702_0982-rt_f_enl-2e4bd228fc253a79dc9e981f88826b09e9be06fd-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"Bill Prady, front left, and Chuck Lorre, front right, are the co-creators of 'The Big Bang Theory.'\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/05/tbbt_ep702_0982-rt_f_enl-2e4bd228fc253a79dc9e981f88826b09e9be06fd-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/05/tbbt_ep702_0982-rt_f_enl-2e4bd228fc253a79dc9e981f88826b09e9be06fd-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/05/tbbt_ep702_0982-rt_f_enl-2e4bd228fc253a79dc9e981f88826b09e9be06fd-768x512.jpg 768w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/05/tbbt_ep702_0982-rt_f_enl-2e4bd228fc253a79dc9e981f88826b09e9be06fd-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/05/tbbt_ep702_0982-rt_f_enl-2e4bd228fc253a79dc9e981f88826b09e9be06fd-1200x800.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/05/tbbt_ep702_0982-rt_f_enl-2e4bd228fc253a79dc9e981f88826b09e9be06fd-1920x1280.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/05/tbbt_ep702_0982-rt_f_enl-2e4bd228fc253a79dc9e981f88826b09e9be06fd.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Bill Prady, front left, and Chuck Lorre, front right, are the co-creators of 'The Big Bang Theory.' \u003ccite>(Mike Yarish/© 2019 Warner Bros. Entertainment Inc)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>The writers say they also treasured quieter scenes—like the time Sheldon's friends throw him a birthday party and he gets overwhelmed and Penny finds him in the bathroom. She tells Sheldon that years ago, she would never have been friends with someone like him, but now he's one of her favorite people.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"If what you need is to spend your birthday in a bathroom, I'm happy to do it with you,\" she tells him.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"But everyone will think I'm weird,\" he says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Sweetie,\" she responds, \"You \u003cem>are\u003c/em> weird.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Over the years, the show has welcomed appropriately nerdy guest stars: Nobel laureates, astronauts, actors from \u003cem>Star Wars \u003c/em>and \u003cem>Star Trek—\u003c/em>even physicist Stephen Hawking. The writers took cues from the latest scientific breakthroughs and they regularly consulted with \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2013/09/23/224404260/the-man-who-gets-the-science-right-on-the-big-bang-theory\">UCLA physicist David Saltzberg\u003c/a> to make sure their scripts were scientifically plausible.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Sometimes you just send him the script with big blank sections to be filled in with appropriate science so that we're not ridiculed,\" says Lorre.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Writer Steve Holland adds \"sometimes, we say things to him like 'Sheldon and Amy need to have a discovery that could be worthy of a Nobel Prize but [it] can't be something anyone else has already thought of. So: go!\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Saltzberg came up with the fictitious theory of \"Super Asymmetry,\" which was sort of a riff on the real-life physics theory of Super Symmetry.\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutube'>\n \u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutubeInside'>\n \u003ciframe\n loading='lazy'\n class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__youtubePlayer'\n type='text/html'\n src='//www.youtube.com/embed/V4Z3i9OXAEA'\n title='//www.youtube.com/embed/V4Z3i9OXAEA'\n allowfullscreen='true'\n style='border:0;'>\u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/span>\n \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cp>\"Theoreticians love symmetrical equations, but the world around us is clearly asymmetrical,\" Saltzberg says. \"What theoretical physicists often do is create a theory with lots of symmetry, but then break it, to explain our world. ... The brilliance of Amy and Sheldon was to include asymmetry into their theory from the start.'\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Saltzberg adds that he hopes a physicist watching the show would at least chuckle—and then think about it seriously. \"As for details, I will need to read Amy and Sheldon's publication very closely to tell you more,\" he says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Super Asymmetry may be made-up, but in 2010, scientists \u003cem>did \u003c/em>end up winning a Nobel Prize for research into \"graphene\"—a subject that was mentioned on a whiteboard in the background of \u003cem>The\u003c/em> \u003cem>Big Bang Theory \u003c/em>earlier that year. The prize-winning scientist cited the episode \u003ca href=\"https://www.nobelprize.org/mediaplayer/?id=1420\">in his Nobel lecture.\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Writer Dave Goetsch says he'll miss generating show ideas from real world science. Stories would catch his eye online and he'd say: \"Oh that's going to make an amazing episode.\" He says he can't bring himself to turn off his daily Google alert for physics news.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Most of writers have been together for 12 years, and many are now also executive producers of the show. Maria Ferrari says she'll miss this writing team. \"Most jobs, you go off and you write your scripts and then you come back and you punch it up together,\" she says. \"Here, we write it all together. That's the only thing I feel like I know how to do: is write, in this room, for this show. It is so hard to leave it behind.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Bill Prady gets emotional when he talks about how fans have connected with the show—and for him, it's personal. \"All of the people who have said that they see themselves in the show because they were outsiders and people who didn't fit in—that was me,\" he says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>No spoilers for the show's emotional final episode—which airs Thursday on CBS—but no doubt it will end as it all began, with a Big Bang.\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"fullattribution\">\u003cem>Copyright 2019 NPR. To see more, visit \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org\">NPR\u003c/a>.\u003cimg src=\"https://www.google-analytics.com/__utm.gif?utmac=UA-5828686-4&utmdt=After+12+Seasons%2C+%27Big+Bang%27+Writers+Bid+Farewell+To+Their+%27Surrogate+Family%27&utme=8(APIKey)9(MDAxOTAwOTE4MDEyMTkxMDAzNjczZDljZA004)\">\u003c/em>\u003c/div>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/pop/111856/after-12-seasons-big-bang-writers-bid-farewell-to-their-surrogate-family","authors":["byline_pop_111856"],"categories":["pop_2696","pop_3"],"tags":["pop_3019","pop_3641","pop_3065"],"featImg":"pop_111857","label":"pop"},"pop_110589":{"type":"posts","id":"pop_110589","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"pop","id":"110589","score":null,"sort":[1553718315000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"what-we-do-in-the-shadows-puts-the-dead-in-deadpan","title":"'What We Do In The Shadows' Puts The Dead In Deadpan","publishDate":1553718315,"format":"standard","headTitle":"KQED Pop | KQED Arts","labelTerm":{"site":"pop"},"content":"\u003cp>In 2014, New Zealand co-directors/co-writers Taika Waititi and Jemaine Clement released \u003cem>What We Do In The Shadows\u003c/em>, a hilarious, shambling-yet-unerringly-precise mockumentary about a group of vampires sharing a house in modern-day Wellington, New Zealand.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The two men also starred in the film, as a pair of odd-couple vampire roommates: the sweet-natured dandy Viago (Waititi), all pinky rings and ruffled shirts and concern about the upkeep of the house's common areas, and the surly, less-sinister-than-he-thinks-he-is Vladislav (Clement). Jonny Brugh and Ben Fransham played two other undead housemates, and the whole endeavor was driven by a commitment to spoofing both the documentary format (shaky camera, testimonials, the subjects' hyper-awareness of their status as documentary subjects) and the ropiest tropes of vampire lore (the vamps go clubbing, only to grow increasingly frustrated when bouncer after bouncer neglects to expressly invite them in).\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAZEWtyhpes\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The central joke—the film's artisanal blend of the grotesque with the utterly, punishingly, unremittingly mundane—made for a tone that just \u003cem>worked\u003c/em>. Marked by the same dry, deadpan, low-wattage and quintessentially Kiwi affect that typified HBO's \u003cem>Flight of the Conchords\u003c/em> (which Clement co-created with Bret McKenzie and James Bobin; Waititi wrote and directed several episodes), the original \u003cem>What We Do In The Shadows\u003c/em> exuded so much easy, unforced charm and sustained cleverness you just wanted to crawl inside it and live for a while.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Now (Wednesday, March 27, specifically) to the FX Network, comes the U.S. incarnation—not a film, but a 10-episode series—and if fans of the 2014 film harbor any qualms about that prospect, it's understandable. After all, the movie deftly exploited—one could even say drafted on—New Zealanders' reputation as some of the more unprepossessing members of the global community. Which is why, despite the characters' arcane abilities and everyday evilness, they came across like underdogs you couldn't help cheering for. Could an \u003cem>American \u003c/em>series strike that necessary, slightly diffident tone? And could that tone take root, once transplanted half a world away from the island on which it germinated?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And then there was the question of story. The film clocked in at a tight 86 minutes, which seemed just about perfect. The notion that its premise—however good, however solid—could benefit from getting stretched over the course of five hours seemed wildly unlikely.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Rest assured, \u003cem>Shadows \u003c/em>fan and newbie alike, that the FX series captures the all-important, dry-as-gravedust tone, and, if the first four episodes made available to the press are any indication, it has figured out how to outfit its one-joke premise with enough different drivers of narrative momentum to keep viewers watching.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyZi3rJPENs\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It doesn't do this right away, however. Not \u003cem>immediately\u003c/em>. The pilot episode's opening minutes map too neatly over the film's: We meet the various players in much the same way. There's the same \"vampire house meeting\" gag. And we're introduced to Guillermo (Harvey Guillen), an all-too-human vampire's assistant who, exactly like the film's Jackie (Jackie van Beek), labors long and hard in hopes to one day be turned by his master.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Even their dark, appealingly shabby mansion strongly resembles that of the film, though instead of the Wellington suburbs, it's located in the heart of New York City.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Well, Staten Island, anyway.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So, you know, the\u003cem> pancreas\u003c/em> of New York City.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Soon enough, however, the series' characters distinguish themselves, and the cast members establish their own rhythms. There is Nandor (Kayvan Novak), once a fierce, bloodthirsty warrior of the Ottoman Empire, who is now a vain, bumbling and quite literally bloodthirsty vampire who passively mistreats his sweet-faced human familiar (Guillen). There is the couple: ostensibly handsome and charming Laszlo (\u003cem>The It Crowd\u003c/em>'s Matt Berry) and the powerful Nadja (Natasia Demetriou) who, as the series opens, chafes against her role as de facto vampire matriarch—and develops a roving eye that alights upon, among other people, community college student Jenna (Beanie Feldstein).\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The four leads are great, the jokes crisp and fast and funny, and the visual effects are employed just as effectively as in the movie, folded seamlessly into the handheld-camera aesthetic so they seem all the more uncanny. It doesn't take long for the characters to receive a kick in the pants that raises the stakes and propels them into the season with a sense of urgency—something the film, for all its manifold qualities, never much bothered with.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But let's talk about Colin Robinson, the show's MVP, and the most striking example of its ability to find new laughs the further it strays from the world defined by the movie.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Robinson is a bald, bespectacled, be-beige-cardiganed lump of an office drone who's a kind of vampire new to the series. Crucially, he's played by the wonderful Mark Proksch, who has turned up most notably in a handful of episodes of \u003cem>Better Call Saul\u003c/em> as woefully unprepared and overmatched drug supplier Daniel \"Pryce\" Wormald. (Also: Google \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dj9VF7LyffU\">Kenny \"K-Strass\" Strasser\u003c/a> sometime, when you need a pick-me-up of the cringiest variety.)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Robinson makes an appealingly weird and uniquely American addition to the mix, and Proksch plays him with a studied, virtuosic blandness that's chillingly recognizable.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As dependably funny as the series is, Proksch's performance speaks to its willingness to bring new ideas to the format established by Waititi and Clement back in 2014. The two men are maintaining a hands-on approach to the material (both Clement and Waititi are series writers; they directed three episodes each).\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It's gratifying to report that, whenever \u003cem>What We Do In The Shadows\u003c/em>, the series, steps confidently out of the long shadow thrown by \u003cem>What We Do In The Shadows\u003c/em>, the movie, it burns bright and hot.\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"fullattribution\">\u003cem>Copyright 2019 NPR. To see more, visit \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org\">NPR\u003c/a>.\u003cimg src=\"https://www.google-analytics.com/__utm.gif?utmac=UA-5828686-4&utmdt=%27What+We+Do+In+The+Shadows%27+Puts+The+Dead+In+Deadpan&utme=8(APIKey)9(MDAxOTAwOTE4MDEyMTkxMDAzNjczZDljZA004)\">\u003c/em>\u003c/div>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"If you loved the hilarious 2014 New Zealand mockumentary about vampire roommates, fear not—you're going to love the American version too. ","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1553718315,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":true,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":19,"wordCount":1022},"headData":{"title":"'What We Do In The Shadows' Puts The Dead In Deadpan | KQED","description":"If you loved the hilarious 2014 New Zealand mockumentary about vampire roommates, fear not—you're going to love the American version too. ","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":""},"disqusIdentifier":"110589 https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/?p=110589","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/2019/03/27/what-we-do-in-the-shadows-puts-the-dead-in-deadpan/","disqusTitle":"'What We Do In The Shadows' Puts The Dead In Deadpan","path":"/pop/110589/what-we-do-in-the-shadows-puts-the-dead-in-deadpan","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>In 2014, New Zealand co-directors/co-writers Taika Waititi and Jemaine Clement released \u003cem>What We Do In The Shadows\u003c/em>, a hilarious, shambling-yet-unerringly-precise mockumentary about a group of vampires sharing a house in modern-day Wellington, New Zealand.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The two men also starred in the film, as a pair of odd-couple vampire roommates: the sweet-natured dandy Viago (Waititi), all pinky rings and ruffled shirts and concern about the upkeep of the house's common areas, and the surly, less-sinister-than-he-thinks-he-is Vladislav (Clement). Jonny Brugh and Ben Fransham played two other undead housemates, and the whole endeavor was driven by a commitment to spoofing both the documentary format (shaky camera, testimonials, the subjects' hyper-awareness of their status as documentary subjects) and the ropiest tropes of vampire lore (the vamps go clubbing, only to grow increasingly frustrated when bouncer after bouncer neglects to expressly invite them in).\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutube'>\n \u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutubeInside'>\n \u003ciframe\n loading='lazy'\n class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__youtubePlayer'\n type='text/html'\n src='//www.youtube.com/embed/IAZEWtyhpes'\n title='//www.youtube.com/embed/IAZEWtyhpes'\n allowfullscreen='true'\n style='border:0;'>\u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/span>\n \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cp>The central joke—the film's artisanal blend of the grotesque with the utterly, punishingly, unremittingly mundane—made for a tone that just \u003cem>worked\u003c/em>. Marked by the same dry, deadpan, low-wattage and quintessentially Kiwi affect that typified HBO's \u003cem>Flight of the Conchords\u003c/em> (which Clement co-created with Bret McKenzie and James Bobin; Waititi wrote and directed several episodes), the original \u003cem>What We Do In The Shadows\u003c/em> exuded so much easy, unforced charm and sustained cleverness you just wanted to crawl inside it and live for a while.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Now (Wednesday, March 27, specifically) to the FX Network, comes the U.S. incarnation—not a film, but a 10-episode series—and if fans of the 2014 film harbor any qualms about that prospect, it's understandable. After all, the movie deftly exploited—one could even say drafted on—New Zealanders' reputation as some of the more unprepossessing members of the global community. Which is why, despite the characters' arcane abilities and everyday evilness, they came across like underdogs you couldn't help cheering for. Could an \u003cem>American \u003c/em>series strike that necessary, slightly diffident tone? And could that tone take root, once transplanted half a world away from the island on which it germinated?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And then there was the question of story. The film clocked in at a tight 86 minutes, which seemed just about perfect. The notion that its premise—however good, however solid—could benefit from getting stretched over the course of five hours seemed wildly unlikely.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Rest assured, \u003cem>Shadows \u003c/em>fan and newbie alike, that the FX series captures the all-important, dry-as-gravedust tone, and, if the first four episodes made available to the press are any indication, it has figured out how to outfit its one-joke premise with enough different drivers of narrative momentum to keep viewers watching.\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutube'>\n \u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutubeInside'>\n \u003ciframe\n loading='lazy'\n class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__youtubePlayer'\n type='text/html'\n src='//www.youtube.com/embed/SyZi3rJPENs'\n title='//www.youtube.com/embed/SyZi3rJPENs'\n allowfullscreen='true'\n style='border:0;'>\u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/span>\n \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cp>It doesn't do this right away, however. Not \u003cem>immediately\u003c/em>. The pilot episode's opening minutes map too neatly over the film's: We meet the various players in much the same way. There's the same \"vampire house meeting\" gag. And we're introduced to Guillermo (Harvey Guillen), an all-too-human vampire's assistant who, exactly like the film's Jackie (Jackie van Beek), labors long and hard in hopes to one day be turned by his master.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Even their dark, appealingly shabby mansion strongly resembles that of the film, though instead of the Wellington suburbs, it's located in the heart of New York City.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Well, Staten Island, anyway.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So, you know, the\u003cem> pancreas\u003c/em> of New York City.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Soon enough, however, the series' characters distinguish themselves, and the cast members establish their own rhythms. There is Nandor (Kayvan Novak), once a fierce, bloodthirsty warrior of the Ottoman Empire, who is now a vain, bumbling and quite literally bloodthirsty vampire who passively mistreats his sweet-faced human familiar (Guillen). There is the couple: ostensibly handsome and charming Laszlo (\u003cem>The It Crowd\u003c/em>'s Matt Berry) and the powerful Nadja (Natasia Demetriou) who, as the series opens, chafes against her role as de facto vampire matriarch—and develops a roving eye that alights upon, among other people, community college student Jenna (Beanie Feldstein).\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The four leads are great, the jokes crisp and fast and funny, and the visual effects are employed just as effectively as in the movie, folded seamlessly into the handheld-camera aesthetic so they seem all the more uncanny. It doesn't take long for the characters to receive a kick in the pants that raises the stakes and propels them into the season with a sense of urgency—something the film, for all its manifold qualities, never much bothered with.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But let's talk about Colin Robinson, the show's MVP, and the most striking example of its ability to find new laughs the further it strays from the world defined by the movie.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Robinson is a bald, bespectacled, be-beige-cardiganed lump of an office drone who's a kind of vampire new to the series. Crucially, he's played by the wonderful Mark Proksch, who has turned up most notably in a handful of episodes of \u003cem>Better Call Saul\u003c/em> as woefully unprepared and overmatched drug supplier Daniel \"Pryce\" Wormald. (Also: Google \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dj9VF7LyffU\">Kenny \"K-Strass\" Strasser\u003c/a> sometime, when you need a pick-me-up of the cringiest variety.)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Robinson makes an appealingly weird and uniquely American addition to the mix, and Proksch plays him with a studied, virtuosic blandness that's chillingly recognizable.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>As dependably funny as the series is, Proksch's performance speaks to its willingness to bring new ideas to the format established by Waititi and Clement back in 2014. The two men are maintaining a hands-on approach to the material (both Clement and Waititi are series writers; they directed three episodes each).\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It's gratifying to report that, whenever \u003cem>What We Do In The Shadows\u003c/em>, the series, steps confidently out of the long shadow thrown by \u003cem>What We Do In The Shadows\u003c/em>, the movie, it burns bright and hot.\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"fullattribution\">\u003cem>Copyright 2019 NPR. To see more, visit \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org\">NPR\u003c/a>.\u003cimg src=\"https://www.google-analytics.com/__utm.gif?utmac=UA-5828686-4&utmdt=%27What+We+Do+In+The+Shadows%27+Puts+The+Dead+In+Deadpan&utme=8(APIKey)9(MDAxOTAwOTE4MDEyMTkxMDAzNjczZDljZA004)\">\u003c/em>\u003c/div>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/pop/110589/what-we-do-in-the-shadows-puts-the-dead-in-deadpan","authors":["2421"],"categories":["pop_2696","pop_51","pop_3"],"tags":["pop_3426","pop_3093","pop_271","pop_3524"],"featImg":"pop_110593","label":"pop"},"pop_108851":{"type":"posts","id":"pop_108851","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"pop","id":"108851","score":null,"sort":[1553605223000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"how-friends-and-seinfeld-changed-the-way-we-talk","title":"How 'Friends' and 'Seinfeld' Changed the Way We Talk","publishDate":1553605223,"format":"standard","headTitle":"KQED Pop | KQED Arts","labelTerm":{"site":"pop"},"content":"\u003cp>In May 1997, there was a throwaway comment in an episode of \u003cem>Friends\u003c/em> that somehow got itself permanently stamped into the lexicon. Phoebe rushes into Central Perk to tell the gang all about a woman who was close to her mother. \"They were like BFF,\" she says, casually. The gang stares at her, bemused by the term. \"Best friends forever,\" Phoebe is forced to clarify. It was neither a hilarious moment, nor one that made immediate waves, but 13 years later, the term had become so entrenched in our everyday verbiage, it was \u003ca href=\"https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/bff\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">added to the Oxford English Dictionary\u003c/a> as a noun.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It wasn't the only time \u003cem>Friends\u003c/em> left a permanent mark on our language. \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=18&v=4pnMWvbFpS8\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">\"The friend zone,\" \u003c/a>a concept that has since been embraced and distorted by men's rights activists, arrived in the first season, as Joey explained to Ross why it was too late to ask Rachel out. And \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TSCV5wUOFE\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">\"going commando,\"\u003c/a> while already an obscure term, was popularized much more widely in the episode when Joey wears all of Chandler's clothes without wearing underwear:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TSCV5wUOFE\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While the speedy spread of new slang makes perfect sense in the age of social media, it's much harder to fathom how TV shows once pulled off the same feat all by themselves. Catchphrases are one thing—they're used week in, week out until they're universally understood by the public (see: \"\u003ca href=\"https://bigbangtheory.fandom.com/wiki/Bazinga\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Bazinga!\u003c/a>\" \"\u003ca href=\"https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Na-Nu%20Na-Nu\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Na-nu na-nu!\u003c/a>\" \"\u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Urkel\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Did I do that?\u003c/a>\" etc.)—but single episode phrases that stand the test of time are something of an anomaly.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The show most frequently credited for this is \u003cem>Seinfeld, \u003c/em>thanks to a writing team led by Larry David that was fundamentally committed to coming up with compact, snappy terms to describe problems and life irritants that were universally relatable. These phrases were written into scripts so smoothly, \u003cem>Seinfeld\u003c/em>'s audience instantly understood—and latched onto—concepts like \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGVSIkEi3mM\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">close talkers\u003c/a>, \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKWYg9qFOpA\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">low talkers\u003c/a>, \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKQFjHDk32E\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">sidlers\u003c/a> and even \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euLQOQNVzgY\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Soup Nazis\u003c/a>. Most remarkably of all though, it was \u003cem>Seinfeld\u003c/em> that gave us a word for \"regifting\"—a concept so popular now, Colorado has been celebrating \"National Regifting Day\" every December 18th since 2008.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VGbY6sirHM\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>20 years after it went off the air, other gifts from \u003cem>Seinfeld \u003c/em>continue to get recycled. Last year, country singer Brandon Lay released a track titled \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaRrVtZSwvU\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">\"Yada Yada Yada.\"\u003c/a> \"Festivus\" merch remains so popular, \u003ca href=\"https://www.etsy.com/market/festivus\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Etsy has a dedicated section\u003c/a> for it. And makers of female contraceptives have a \u003ca href=\"http://www.todaysponge.com/spongeworthyclub.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">membership club called \"SpongeWorthy,\"\u003c/a> named after Elaine's term for a man attractive enough to use her limited supply of sponges on.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sure, there are plenty of other shows that have left a mark on American slang. Police officers wouldn't be referred to as \"Five-O\" if it wasn't for 1970s \u003ca href=\"https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0062568/?ref_=nv_sr_2\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">cop show, \u003cem>Hawaii 5-O\u003c/em>\u003c/a>; we wouldn't have the term \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvGopsM1G9g\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">\"jumping the shark\"\u003c/a> if it wasn't for that ridiculous \u003cem>Happy Days\u003c/em> episode; and—fun fact!—email spam was \u003ca href=\"http://mentalfloss.com/article/556977/words-and-phrases-that-came-from-tv-shows\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">named after the \u003cem>Monty Python\u003c/em> skit\u003c/a>, in which no one can get a word in for all of the \"spam\" references. The difference is, these were all terms invented by the public in reference to shows rather than lifting language straight out of episodes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When they were on the air, \u003cem>Friends\u003c/em> and \u003cem>Seinfeld\u003c/em> averaged between 21 and 24 million viewers per episode. The only sitcom to consistently come close to that since is \u003cem>The Big Bang Theory \u003c/em>(18-20 million). Comedy shows considered big hits in between—the likes of \u003cem>How I Met Your Mother\u003c/em>, \u003cem>The Office\u003c/em> and \u003cem>Parks and Recreation\u003c/em>—averaged about a quarter of that. With the decline and splintering of TV viewership, thanks to the plethora of new ways to watch and a vast array of content to stream, the kind of influence once wielded by sitcoms is a thing of the past. The linguistic gifts from \u003cem>Seinfeld\u003c/em> and \u003cem>Friends, \u003c/em>though, will stay with us forever.\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Friend zone, BFF and yada yada wouldn't mean anything to us without 'Friends' and 'Seinfeld.'","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1622111164,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":true,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":9,"wordCount":687},"headData":{"title":"How 'Friends' and 'Seinfeld' Changed the Way We Talk - KQED Pop","description":"Friend zone, BFF and yada yada wouldn't mean anything to us without 'Friends' and 'Seinfeld.'","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":""},"disqusIdentifier":"108851 https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/?p=108851","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/2019/03/26/how-friends-and-seinfeld-changed-the-way-we-talk/","disqusTitle":"How 'Friends' and 'Seinfeld' Changed the Way We Talk","templateType":"standard","featuredImageType":"standard","path":"/pop/108851/how-friends-and-seinfeld-changed-the-way-we-talk","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>In May 1997, there was a throwaway comment in an episode of \u003cem>Friends\u003c/em> that somehow got itself permanently stamped into the lexicon. Phoebe rushes into Central Perk to tell the gang all about a woman who was close to her mother. \"They were like BFF,\" she says, casually. The gang stares at her, bemused by the term. \"Best friends forever,\" Phoebe is forced to clarify. It was neither a hilarious moment, nor one that made immediate waves, but 13 years later, the term had become so entrenched in our everyday verbiage, it was \u003ca href=\"https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/bff\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">added to the Oxford English Dictionary\u003c/a> as a noun.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It wasn't the only time \u003cem>Friends\u003c/em> left a permanent mark on our language. \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=18&v=4pnMWvbFpS8\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">\"The friend zone,\" \u003c/a>a concept that has since been embraced and distorted by men's rights activists, arrived in the first season, as Joey explained to Ross why it was too late to ask Rachel out. And \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TSCV5wUOFE\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">\"going commando,\"\u003c/a> while already an obscure term, was popularized much more widely in the episode when Joey wears all of Chandler's clothes without wearing underwear:\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutube'>\n \u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutubeInside'>\n \u003ciframe\n loading='lazy'\n class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__youtubePlayer'\n type='text/html'\n src='//www.youtube.com/embed/4TSCV5wUOFE'\n title='//www.youtube.com/embed/4TSCV5wUOFE'\n allowfullscreen='true'\n style='border:0;'>\u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/span>\n \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cp>While the speedy spread of new slang makes perfect sense in the age of social media, it's much harder to fathom how TV shows once pulled off the same feat all by themselves. Catchphrases are one thing—they're used week in, week out until they're universally understood by the public (see: \"\u003ca href=\"https://bigbangtheory.fandom.com/wiki/Bazinga\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Bazinga!\u003c/a>\" \"\u003ca href=\"https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Na-Nu%20Na-Nu\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Na-nu na-nu!\u003c/a>\" \"\u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Urkel\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Did I do that?\u003c/a>\" etc.)—but single episode phrases that stand the test of time are something of an anomaly.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The show most frequently credited for this is \u003cem>Seinfeld, \u003c/em>thanks to a writing team led by Larry David that was fundamentally committed to coming up with compact, snappy terms to describe problems and life irritants that were universally relatable. These phrases were written into scripts so smoothly, \u003cem>Seinfeld\u003c/em>'s audience instantly understood—and latched onto—concepts like \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGVSIkEi3mM\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">close talkers\u003c/a>, \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKWYg9qFOpA\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">low talkers\u003c/a>, \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKQFjHDk32E\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">sidlers\u003c/a> and even \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euLQOQNVzgY\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Soup Nazis\u003c/a>. Most remarkably of all though, it was \u003cem>Seinfeld\u003c/em> that gave us a word for \"regifting\"—a concept so popular now, Colorado has been celebrating \"National Regifting Day\" every December 18th since 2008.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutube'>\n \u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutubeInside'>\n \u003ciframe\n loading='lazy'\n class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__youtubePlayer'\n type='text/html'\n src='//www.youtube.com/embed/6VGbY6sirHM'\n title='//www.youtube.com/embed/6VGbY6sirHM'\n allowfullscreen='true'\n style='border:0;'>\u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/span>\n \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cp>20 years after it went off the air, other gifts from \u003cem>Seinfeld \u003c/em>continue to get recycled. Last year, country singer Brandon Lay released a track titled \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaRrVtZSwvU\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">\"Yada Yada Yada.\"\u003c/a> \"Festivus\" merch remains so popular, \u003ca href=\"https://www.etsy.com/market/festivus\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Etsy has a dedicated section\u003c/a> for it. And makers of female contraceptives have a \u003ca href=\"http://www.todaysponge.com/spongeworthyclub.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">membership club called \"SpongeWorthy,\"\u003c/a> named after Elaine's term for a man attractive enough to use her limited supply of sponges on.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sure, there are plenty of other shows that have left a mark on American slang. Police officers wouldn't be referred to as \"Five-O\" if it wasn't for 1970s \u003ca href=\"https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0062568/?ref_=nv_sr_2\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">cop show, \u003cem>Hawaii 5-O\u003c/em>\u003c/a>; we wouldn't have the term \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvGopsM1G9g\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">\"jumping the shark\"\u003c/a> if it wasn't for that ridiculous \u003cem>Happy Days\u003c/em> episode; and—fun fact!—email spam was \u003ca href=\"http://mentalfloss.com/article/556977/words-and-phrases-that-came-from-tv-shows\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">named after the \u003cem>Monty Python\u003c/em> skit\u003c/a>, in which no one can get a word in for all of the \"spam\" references. The difference is, these were all terms invented by the public in reference to shows rather than lifting language straight out of episodes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When they were on the air, \u003cem>Friends\u003c/em> and \u003cem>Seinfeld\u003c/em> averaged between 21 and 24 million viewers per episode. The only sitcom to consistently come close to that since is \u003cem>The Big Bang Theory \u003c/em>(18-20 million). Comedy shows considered big hits in between—the likes of \u003cem>How I Met Your Mother\u003c/em>, \u003cem>The Office\u003c/em> and \u003cem>Parks and Recreation\u003c/em>—averaged about a quarter of that. With the decline and splintering of TV viewership, thanks to the plethora of new ways to watch and a vast array of content to stream, the kind of influence once wielded by sitcoms is a thing of the past. The linguistic gifts from \u003cem>Seinfeld\u003c/em> and \u003cem>Friends, \u003c/em>though, will stay with us forever.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/pop/108851/how-friends-and-seinfeld-changed-the-way-we-talk","authors":["11242"],"categories":["pop_2696","pop_3"],"tags":["pop_3426","pop_267","pop_3341","pop_1532","pop_530"],"featImg":"pop_109211","label":"pop"},"pop_109322":{"type":"posts","id":"pop_109322","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"pop","id":"109322","score":null,"sort":[1550794507000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"remembering-gerri-lawlor-sims-voice-actor-improv-star-and-homeless-advocate","title":"Remembering Gerri Lawlor, 'Sims' Voice Actor, Improv Star and Homeless Advocate","publishDate":1550794507,"format":"standard","headTitle":"KQED Pop | KQED Arts","labelTerm":{"site":"pop"},"content":"\u003cp>If you're a Millennial, chances are your first forays into adult living happened virtually, via the medium of \u003cem>\u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yLpvhNfoWA\">The Sims\u003c/a>\u003c/em>. The life simulation gave kids the chance to do grown-up stuff (or take \u003ca href=\"https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/gamers-confess-the-worst-things-theyve-done-on-the-sims-10144138.html\">a walk on the wild side\u003c/a>) without ever leaving the comfort and safety of their bedrooms.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When \u003cem>Sims\u003c/em> voice actor and co-creator of the Simlish language, \u003ca href=\"https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0492548/\">Gerri Lawlor\u003c/a>, died on January 28, 2019, the gaming world and \u003cem>Sims\u003c/em> fans felt the loss keenly. Audio director, Robi Kauker, who has worked on \u003cem>The Sims\u003c/em> since its inception, \u003ca href=\"https://www.ea.com/games/the-sims/the-sims-4/news/in-memory-gerri-lawlor\">said\u003c/a>:\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>\"Gerri was an amazing improvisational comedienne who brought her enormous personality to the mic. She was one of the funniest people with whom I ever had the opportunity to work. Gerri’s generosity and willingness to try anything is one of my most cherished memories from over twenty years of making \u003cem>The Sims\u003c/em>. It’s something I still lean on and learn from to this day.\"\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>To give you some idea of what Kauker is talking about, here's Lawlor and fellow \u003cem>Sims\u003c/em> actor Stephen Kearin trying not to crack up every 30 seconds while recording Simlish in 2001:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RF6JUKIAI-s\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In reality, Lawlor's life stretched far beyond the \u003cem>Sims\u003c/em> universe. She came from the world of San Francisco improv and was a Company Player at \u003ca href=\"https://www.improv.org/\">BATS Improv,\u003c/a> where her \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6ZP4GBqT9Q\">performances\u003c/a> and classes were marked by a playful, fearless approach to linguistic and physical comedy. Lawlor also acted in movies like \u003ca href=\"https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0193535/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1\">\u003cem>Suckerfish\u003c/em>\u003c/a> and \u003ca href=\"https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0359954/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_11\">\u003cem>Security\u003c/em>\u003c/a>, and provided guest vocals for avant-garde musical outfits like \u003ca href=\"https://www.residents.com/\">The Residents\u003c/a> and \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlAqlm-k49A&feature=share&fbclid=IwAR0tIMoIpQ-1SoKvwM-v_1VoJ3bD20wxbTwB1AYnCfo5DGDJvBdq9crR8fw\">The Sexy Lilliputians\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Lawlor's work was wildly unpredictable but always imbued with joy. There were her alter-egos, \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9sN9kBE6ms\">The Piffy\u003c/a> and Piffy Fou, her \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1Va4S93PRY&fbclid=IwAR1BFIt5klVJPXFaRkzaiEtrttF-wWp8X8QdIz2l_r_SaBtC6MvTaOXNJ-0\">graceful swing dances\u003c/a> and her appearances alongside drag queens and kings at \u003ca href=\"https://sfoasis.com/\">Oasis\u003c/a>\u003cem>.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_109324\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 550px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-109324\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2019/02/Screen-Shot-2019-02-11-at-2.48.57-PM.png\" alt=\"@Heklina / Facebook\" width=\"550\" height=\"544\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/02/Screen-Shot-2019-02-11-at-2.48.57-PM.png 550w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/02/Screen-Shot-2019-02-11-at-2.48.57-PM-160x158.png 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/02/Screen-Shot-2019-02-11-at-2.48.57-PM-32x32.png 32w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/02/Screen-Shot-2019-02-11-at-2.48.57-PM-50x50.png 50w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/02/Screen-Shot-2019-02-11-at-2.48.57-PM-64x64.png 64w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/02/Screen-Shot-2019-02-11-at-2.48.57-PM-96x96.png 96w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/02/Screen-Shot-2019-02-11-at-2.48.57-PM-128x128.png 128w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 550px) 100vw, 550px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">@Heklina / Facebook\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>In her spare time, Lawlor was a homeless advocate, joining forces with Margaret Cho in 2014 for the \u003cem>Be Robin\u003c/em> campaign, inspired by the passing of Robin Williams. Cho and Lawler put on impromptu musical and comedic \u003ca href=\"https://hoodline.com/2014/11/margaret-cho-kicks-off-homeless-outreach-tour-in-the-haight\">street performances\u003c/a> around San Francisco in order to raise money and collect supplies for the city's homeless population. Lawlor's \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDWCZ5ukgNk\">graphic interpretive dances\u003c/a> of Cho's songs were always a hit with assembled crowds:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c!-- iframe plugin v.4.3 wordpress.org/plugins/iframe/ -->\u003cbr>\n\u003ciframe src=\"https://www.facebook.com/plugins/video.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fkurt.weitzmann%2Fvideos%2F10158041011045410%2F&show_text=0&width=560\" width=\"560\" height=\"315\" style=\"border:none;overflow:hidden\" scrolling=\"no\" frameborder=\"0\" allowtransparency=\"true\" class=\"iframe-class\">\u003c/iframe>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Gerri Lawlor left her mark both on the local community and on pop culture in a larger sense. If you need proof, here's a medley of some of the world's most famous musicians singing their biggest hits in Simlish, an appropriately surreal legacy for a woman whose creative sensibilities knew no bounds.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z50bB__b-tQ\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>A \u003ca href=\"https://www.facebook.com/events/325250044864531/?active_tab=about\">Gerri Lawlor Celebration of Life\u003c/a> will be held on Monday, February 25, 6:30pm—10pm at \u003ca href=\"https://sfoasis.com/\">SF Oasis\u003c/a>. All donations collected at the door will go to the Lawlor family. There is also a \u003ca href=\"https://www.gofundme.com/please-help-gerri039s-mom?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=fb_dn_postdonate_r&fbclid=IwAR1RcBaO8d4U8UG9_6Bl2cuHLRALJizhRA6QiDF1EwoOmj5eq6mWTavX3pQ\">GoFundMe to help Gerri's mom,\u003c/a> Maggie.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Lawlor was a co-creator of the Simlish language, collaborated with Margaret Cho to help the homeless and thrilled audiences around the Bay with her improv comedy.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1552532523,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":true,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":12,"wordCount":499},"headData":{"title":"Remembering Gerri Lawlor, 'Sims' Voice Actor, Improv Star and Homeless Advocate | KQED","description":"Lawlor was a co-creator of the Simlish language, collaborated with Margaret Cho to help the homeless and thrilled audiences around the Bay with her improv comedy.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":""},"disqusIdentifier":"109322 https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/?p=109322","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/2019/02/21/remembering-gerri-lawlor-sims-voice-actor-improv-star-and-homeless-advocate/","disqusTitle":"Remembering Gerri Lawlor, 'Sims' Voice Actor, Improv Star and Homeless Advocate","path":"/pop/109322/remembering-gerri-lawlor-sims-voice-actor-improv-star-and-homeless-advocate","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>If you're a Millennial, chances are your first forays into adult living happened virtually, via the medium of \u003cem>\u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yLpvhNfoWA\">The Sims\u003c/a>\u003c/em>. The life simulation gave kids the chance to do grown-up stuff (or take \u003ca href=\"https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/gamers-confess-the-worst-things-theyve-done-on-the-sims-10144138.html\">a walk on the wild side\u003c/a>) without ever leaving the comfort and safety of their bedrooms.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When \u003cem>Sims\u003c/em> voice actor and co-creator of the Simlish language, \u003ca href=\"https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0492548/\">Gerri Lawlor\u003c/a>, died on January 28, 2019, the gaming world and \u003cem>Sims\u003c/em> fans felt the loss keenly. Audio director, Robi Kauker, who has worked on \u003cem>The Sims\u003c/em> since its inception, \u003ca href=\"https://www.ea.com/games/the-sims/the-sims-4/news/in-memory-gerri-lawlor\">said\u003c/a>:\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>\"Gerri was an amazing improvisational comedienne who brought her enormous personality to the mic. She was one of the funniest people with whom I ever had the opportunity to work. Gerri’s generosity and willingness to try anything is one of my most cherished memories from over twenty years of making \u003cem>The Sims\u003c/em>. It’s something I still lean on and learn from to this day.\"\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>To give you some idea of what Kauker is talking about, here's Lawlor and fellow \u003cem>Sims\u003c/em> actor Stephen Kearin trying not to crack up every 30 seconds while recording Simlish in 2001:\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutube'>\n \u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutubeInside'>\n \u003ciframe\n loading='lazy'\n class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__youtubePlayer'\n type='text/html'\n src='//www.youtube.com/embed/RF6JUKIAI-s'\n title='//www.youtube.com/embed/RF6JUKIAI-s'\n allowfullscreen='true'\n style='border:0;'>\u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/span>\n \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In reality, Lawlor's life stretched far beyond the \u003cem>Sims\u003c/em> universe. She came from the world of San Francisco improv and was a Company Player at \u003ca href=\"https://www.improv.org/\">BATS Improv,\u003c/a> where her \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6ZP4GBqT9Q\">performances\u003c/a> and classes were marked by a playful, fearless approach to linguistic and physical comedy. Lawlor also acted in movies like \u003ca href=\"https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0193535/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1\">\u003cem>Suckerfish\u003c/em>\u003c/a> and \u003ca href=\"https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0359954/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_11\">\u003cem>Security\u003c/em>\u003c/a>, and provided guest vocals for avant-garde musical outfits like \u003ca href=\"https://www.residents.com/\">The Residents\u003c/a> and \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlAqlm-k49A&feature=share&fbclid=IwAR0tIMoIpQ-1SoKvwM-v_1VoJ3bD20wxbTwB1AYnCfo5DGDJvBdq9crR8fw\">The Sexy Lilliputians\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Lawlor's work was wildly unpredictable but always imbued with joy. There were her alter-egos, \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9sN9kBE6ms\">The Piffy\u003c/a> and Piffy Fou, her \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1Va4S93PRY&fbclid=IwAR1BFIt5klVJPXFaRkzaiEtrttF-wWp8X8QdIz2l_r_SaBtC6MvTaOXNJ-0\">graceful swing dances\u003c/a> and her appearances alongside drag queens and kings at \u003ca href=\"https://sfoasis.com/\">Oasis\u003c/a>\u003cem>.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_109324\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 550px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-109324\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2019/02/Screen-Shot-2019-02-11-at-2.48.57-PM.png\" alt=\"@Heklina / Facebook\" width=\"550\" height=\"544\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/02/Screen-Shot-2019-02-11-at-2.48.57-PM.png 550w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/02/Screen-Shot-2019-02-11-at-2.48.57-PM-160x158.png 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/02/Screen-Shot-2019-02-11-at-2.48.57-PM-32x32.png 32w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/02/Screen-Shot-2019-02-11-at-2.48.57-PM-50x50.png 50w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/02/Screen-Shot-2019-02-11-at-2.48.57-PM-64x64.png 64w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/02/Screen-Shot-2019-02-11-at-2.48.57-PM-96x96.png 96w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/02/Screen-Shot-2019-02-11-at-2.48.57-PM-128x128.png 128w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 550px) 100vw, 550px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">@Heklina / Facebook\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>In her spare time, Lawlor was a homeless advocate, joining forces with Margaret Cho in 2014 for the \u003cem>Be Robin\u003c/em> campaign, inspired by the passing of Robin Williams. Cho and Lawler put on impromptu musical and comedic \u003ca href=\"https://hoodline.com/2014/11/margaret-cho-kicks-off-homeless-outreach-tour-in-the-haight\">street performances\u003c/a> around San Francisco in order to raise money and collect supplies for the city's homeless population. Lawlor's \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDWCZ5ukgNk\">graphic interpretive dances\u003c/a> of Cho's songs were always a hit with assembled crowds:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c!-- iframe plugin v.4.3 wordpress.org/plugins/iframe/ -->\u003cbr>\n\u003ciframe src=\"https://www.facebook.com/plugins/video.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fkurt.weitzmann%2Fvideos%2F10158041011045410%2F&show_text=0&width=560\" width=\"560\" height=\"315\" style=\"border:none;overflow:hidden\" scrolling=\"no\" frameborder=\"0\" allowtransparency=\"true\" class=\"iframe-class\">\u003c/iframe>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Gerri Lawlor left her mark both on the local community and on pop culture in a larger sense. If you need proof, here's a medley of some of the world's most famous musicians singing their biggest hits in Simlish, an appropriately surreal legacy for a woman whose creative sensibilities knew no bounds.\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutube'>\n \u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutubeInside'>\n \u003ciframe\n loading='lazy'\n class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__youtubePlayer'\n type='text/html'\n src='//www.youtube.com/embed/Z50bB__b-tQ'\n title='//www.youtube.com/embed/Z50bB__b-tQ'\n allowfullscreen='true'\n style='border:0;'>\u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/span>\n \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>A \u003ca href=\"https://www.facebook.com/events/325250044864531/?active_tab=about\">Gerri Lawlor Celebration of Life\u003c/a> will be held on Monday, February 25, 6:30pm—10pm at \u003ca href=\"https://sfoasis.com/\">SF Oasis\u003c/a>. All donations collected at the door will go to the Lawlor family. There is also a \u003ca href=\"https://www.gofundme.com/please-help-gerri039s-mom?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=fb_dn_postdonate_r&fbclid=IwAR1RcBaO8d4U8UG9_6Bl2cuHLRALJizhRA6QiDF1EwoOmj5eq6mWTavX3pQ\">GoFundMe to help Gerri's mom,\u003c/a> Maggie.\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/pop/109322/remembering-gerri-lawlor-sims-voice-actor-improv-star-and-homeless-advocate","authors":["11242"],"categories":["pop_131","pop_2696","pop_1155"],"tags":["pop_3426","pop_3456","pop_330","pop_3253","pop_3455","pop_2815","pop_3458","pop_3457"],"featImg":"pop_109619","label":"pop"},"pop_109574":{"type":"posts","id":"pop_109574","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"pop","id":"109574","score":null,"sort":[1550696389000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"you-get-paid-for-doing-therapy-stand-up-comedians-talk-anger","title":"\"You Get Paid For Doing Therapy\": Stand-Up Comedians Talk Anger","publishDate":1550696389,"format":"standard","headTitle":"KQED Pop | KQED Arts","labelTerm":{"site":"pop"},"content":"\u003cp>Veteran comedians know all about the funny side of anger.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The late George Carlin wrote an entire bit called \"\u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBw14SVVQTI\">Free-Floating Hostility\u003c/a>.\" Jerry Seinfeld once declared in the \u003ca href=\"https://www.latimes.com/style/la-mag-nov302008-theear-story.html\">Los Angeles Times\u003c/a> that \"All comedy starts with anger.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The rant is often a comedian's sharpest tool, whether it's the screams of the late Sam Kinison or the tirades of \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrabeOMyXAc\">Chris Rock\u003c/a>—like \"Stop telling your kids they're special!\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c!-- iframe plugin v.4.3 wordpress.org/plugins/iframe/ -->\u003cbr>\n\u003ciframe src=\"https://www.npr.org/player/embed/689926199/696172557\" width=\"100%\" height=\"290\" frameborder=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\" class=\"iframe-class\">\u003c/iframe>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2018/12/02/672758694/comedian-mo-amer-takes-his-the-refugee-experience-to-netflix\">Comic Mo Amer\u003c/a> has plenty to be angry about—he's spent pretty much his whole life trying to explain his identity. Mo is short for Mohammed (as he says, it's the most popular name in the world, but try finding a personalized keychain anywhere); Amer was born in Kuwait to Palestinian parents.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When he was 9 years old, his family had to flee the country during the Gulf War; eventually, they settled in Texas. Then, when Amer was 14, his father died.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I was angry that I didn't get time with him,\" Amer says. \"There was anger for having very little semblance of family life, and everybody split up and everybody is in different parts of the world because war sucks.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Amer found that stand-up comedy was a perfect outlet for his frustrations. Much of his material comes from his experiences as an immigrant from the Middle East—and, as he tells it, traveling internationally can be a nightmare. For years, his only form of identification was a refugee travel document.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In his Netflix special, \u003cem>The Vagabond\u003c/em>, he re-creates a heated conversation he had with a customs official who refused to accept it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QviPgC3Vmms\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Stand-up, why I love it so much, because it's—you get paid for doing therapy,\" Amer says. \"So that was part of my coping process.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Another part is feedback from the audience. Amer says he got a standing ovation for an early performance of that bit about international travel.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It was one of those moments I was like, 'Oh, this is what it's all about,' \" he says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Turning pain into belly laughs is not easy, says Noam Dworman, who owns the renowned New York club the Comedy Cellar. He says Amer is one of the few who can elicit joyous laughter out of pain.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"The thing about Mo is that he has this background of incidents in his life that would cause resentment in somebody,\" Dworman says. \"But the way he presents it is with such charm and appeal that it's endearing, you know, people adore him. They love him.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Stand-up comedians have long used pain, anger and hurt to get a laugh, whether it's Kinison's screams of outright rage, or the self-deprecating sarcasm of the late Phyllis Diller recounting a story of her husband getting up and putting on his work clothes after she asked him to kiss her goodnight.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And stand-up can be as much of a coping mechanism for audiences as it is for comics. People have sought relief from fools and jesters as far back as the Middle Ages.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In his 1962 book \u003ca href=\"https://www.amazon.com/Heroes-Villains-Fools-Changing-Character/dp/1412853583\">Heroes, Villains, and Fools\u003c/a>, sociologist Orrin E. Klapp wrote that the clever fool is the \"safety valve ... by which societies release tensions that might otherwise be damaging.\" In other words, the communal belly laugh can be cathartic, whether it's about serious issues or spilled milk.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sophie Quirk, author of the book \u003ca href=\"https://www.amazon.com/Why-Stand-up-Matters-Comedians-Manipulate/dp/1472578929\">Why Stand-up Matters\u003c/a>, is a senior lecturer in drama and theater at the University of Kent in the U.K.. She says the comedy club offers jokes, social criticism and what she calls a \"bonding experience.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"There are some comedians who I actively want to see when something happens that makes me angry, say, politically,\" Quirk says. \"And the people around me are going to be expressing—through their laughter and their groans and their boos and whatever—it might be a real empathy with how I'm feeling about it.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Anger is, of course, just one emotion a performer needs to conjure up to really connect with the audience. \"Some of my jokes come from empathy, too,\" Amer says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sandra Bernhard, whose sneers are legendary, agrees that a performer needs to tap into a range of emotions on stage. But she says anger is like fuel.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Anger is energy,\" Bernhard says. \"And I think you've got to be able to access that side of your psyche and be able to fully express yourself within the confines of it.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Within the confines of a comedy club, tension—or the release of it—is part of what you pay for.\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"fullattribution\">\u003cem>Copyright 2019 NPR. To see more, visit https://www.npr.org.\u003cimg src=\"https://www.google-analytics.com/__utm.gif?utmac=UA-5828686-4&utmdt=%27You+Get+Paid+For+Doing+Therapy%27%3A+Stand-Up+Comedians+On+Anger&utme=8(APIKey)9(MDAxOTAwOTE4MDEyMTkxMDAzNjczZDljZA004)\">\u003c/em>\u003c/div>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"How some stand-up performers turn pain and rage into their own coping and catharsis.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1550694859,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":true,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":25,"wordCount":795},"headData":{"title":"\"You Get Paid For Doing Therapy\": Stand-Up Comedians Talk Anger | KQED","description":"How some stand-up performers turn pain and rage into their own coping and catharsis.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":""},"disqusIdentifier":"109574 https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/?p=109574","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/2019/02/20/you-get-paid-for-doing-therapy-stand-up-comedians-talk-anger/","disqusTitle":"\"You Get Paid For Doing Therapy\": Stand-Up Comedians Talk Anger","nprByline":"Elizabeth Blair","nprImageAgency":"Netflix","nprStoryId":"689926199","nprApiLink":"http://api.npr.org/query?id=689926199&apiKey=MDAxOTAwOTE4MDEyMTkxMDAzNjczZDljZA004","nprHtmlLink":"https://www.npr.org/2019/02/20/689926199/you-get-paid-for-doing-therapy-stand-up-comedians-on-anger?ft=nprml&f=689926199","nprRetrievedStory":"1","nprPubDate":"Wed, 20 Feb 2019 10:50:00 -0500","nprStoryDate":"Wed, 20 Feb 2019 05:01:00 -0500","nprLastModifiedDate":"Wed, 20 Feb 2019 10:50:59 -0500","nprAudio":"https://ondemand.npr.org/anon.npr-mp3/npr/me/2019/02/20190220_me_you_get_paid_for_doing_therapy_stand-up_comedians_on_anger.mp3?orgId=1&topicId=1008&aggIds=688838187&d=345&p=3&story=689926199&ft=nprml&f=689926199","nprAudioM3u":"http://api.npr.org/m3u/1696172557-08b00c.m3u?orgId=1&topicId=1008&aggIds=688838187&d=345&p=3&story=689926199&ft=nprml&f=689926199","audioTrackLength":346,"path":"/pop/109574/you-get-paid-for-doing-therapy-stand-up-comedians-talk-anger","audioUrl":"https://ondemand.npr.org/anon.npr-mp3/npr/me/2019/02/20190220_me_you_get_paid_for_doing_therapy_stand-up_comedians_on_anger.mp3?orgId=1&topicId=1008&aggIds=688838187&d=345&p=3&story=689926199&ft=nprml&f=689926199","parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>Veteran comedians know all about the funny side of anger.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The late George Carlin wrote an entire bit called \"\u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBw14SVVQTI\">Free-Floating Hostility\u003c/a>.\" Jerry Seinfeld once declared in the \u003ca href=\"https://www.latimes.com/style/la-mag-nov302008-theear-story.html\">Los Angeles Times\u003c/a> that \"All comedy starts with anger.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The rant is often a comedian's sharpest tool, whether it's the screams of the late Sam Kinison or the tirades of \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrabeOMyXAc\">Chris Rock\u003c/a>—like \"Stop telling your kids they're special!\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c!-- iframe plugin v.4.3 wordpress.org/plugins/iframe/ -->\u003cbr>\n\u003ciframe src=\"https://www.npr.org/player/embed/689926199/696172557\" width=\"100%\" height=\"290\" frameborder=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\" class=\"iframe-class\">\u003c/iframe>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2018/12/02/672758694/comedian-mo-amer-takes-his-the-refugee-experience-to-netflix\">Comic Mo Amer\u003c/a> has plenty to be angry about—he's spent pretty much his whole life trying to explain his identity. Mo is short for Mohammed (as he says, it's the most popular name in the world, but try finding a personalized keychain anywhere); Amer was born in Kuwait to Palestinian parents.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When he was 9 years old, his family had to flee the country during the Gulf War; eventually, they settled in Texas. Then, when Amer was 14, his father died.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I was angry that I didn't get time with him,\" Amer says. \"There was anger for having very little semblance of family life, and everybody split up and everybody is in different parts of the world because war sucks.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Amer found that stand-up comedy was a perfect outlet for his frustrations. Much of his material comes from his experiences as an immigrant from the Middle East—and, as he tells it, traveling internationally can be a nightmare. For years, his only form of identification was a refugee travel document.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In his Netflix special, \u003cem>The Vagabond\u003c/em>, he re-creates a heated conversation he had with a customs official who refused to accept it.\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutube'>\n \u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutubeInside'>\n \u003ciframe\n loading='lazy'\n class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__youtubePlayer'\n type='text/html'\n src='//www.youtube.com/embed/QviPgC3Vmms'\n title='//www.youtube.com/embed/QviPgC3Vmms'\n allowfullscreen='true'\n style='border:0;'>\u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/span>\n \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cp>\"Stand-up, why I love it so much, because it's—you get paid for doing therapy,\" Amer says. \"So that was part of my coping process.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Another part is feedback from the audience. Amer says he got a standing ovation for an early performance of that bit about international travel.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It was one of those moments I was like, 'Oh, this is what it's all about,' \" he says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Turning pain into belly laughs is not easy, says Noam Dworman, who owns the renowned New York club the Comedy Cellar. He says Amer is one of the few who can elicit joyous laughter out of pain.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"The thing about Mo is that he has this background of incidents in his life that would cause resentment in somebody,\" Dworman says. \"But the way he presents it is with such charm and appeal that it's endearing, you know, people adore him. 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Klapp wrote that the clever fool is the \"safety valve ... by which societies release tensions that might otherwise be damaging.\" In other words, the communal belly laugh can be cathartic, whether it's about serious issues or spilled milk.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sophie Quirk, author of the book \u003ca href=\"https://www.amazon.com/Why-Stand-up-Matters-Comedians-Manipulate/dp/1472578929\">Why Stand-up Matters\u003c/a>, is a senior lecturer in drama and theater at the University of Kent in the U.K.. She says the comedy club offers jokes, social criticism and what she calls a \"bonding experience.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"There are some comedians who I actively want to see when something happens that makes me angry, say, politically,\" Quirk says. \"And the people around me are going to be expressing—through their laughter and their groans and their boos and whatever—it might be a real empathy with how I'm feeling about it.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Anger is, of course, just one emotion a performer needs to conjure up to really connect with the audience. \"Some of my jokes come from empathy, too,\" Amer says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sandra Bernhard, whose sneers are legendary, agrees that a performer needs to tap into a range of emotions on stage. But she says anger is like fuel.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Anger is energy,\" Bernhard says. \"And I think you've got to be able to access that side of your psyche and be able to fully express yourself within the confines of it.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Within the confines of a comedy club, tension—or the release of it—is part of what you pay for.\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"fullattribution\">\u003cem>Copyright 2019 NPR. 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She's a writer, comedian, podcaster, viral Instagram sensation and a real artist with a day job. We're obsessed, and you will be too.\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>Interview Highlights\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>On what inspired her \u003cem>Excellent Coats on Irritated Women\u003c/em> Instagram:\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/pop/108124/instagrams-excellent-coats-on-irritated-women-is-inspiring-as-hell\">\u003cem>Excellent Coats on Irritated Women\u003c/em>\u003c/a> was inspired by the Bay Area's own Speaker Nancy Pelosi... 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That in and of itself can be fabulous...\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Now that I have a bit more wisdom with time, I can accept that [my agoraphobia or panic attacks] may still show up and that's not a personal failing. I can just enjoy the good times while they're here and do my best to minimize those tough breakthrough moments.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>On why she wouldn't mind being seduced by the ghost of landscape architect and bipolar genius Frederick Law Olmsted:\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I was recently on a date with a gentleman caller in Central Park and I was gazing around and possibly ranting at length about the genius of Frederick Law Olmsted, who was an incredible, really brilliant individual... He became quite a strong abolitionist after \u003cem>The New York Times\u003c/em> sent him into the antebellum South to go undercover and interview plantation owners and talk to slaves and document what he saw down there. During the Civil War, he set up floating hospitals and ships [for the Union].\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Listen, the man was awesome. I could talk about him forever. If Frederick Law Olmsted's ghost humped my leg or gave me a valentine or really anything, I would marry him. I don't know how it would work, but it would be pretty great.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>And there's a lot more where that came from! Listen to hear all about it:\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[audio src=\"https://www.kqed.org/.stream/anon/radio/thecooler/2019/02/SaraBenincasa.mp3\" title=\"Excellent Coats on Irritated Women (with Sara Benincasa)\" program=\"The Cooler\" image=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2019/02/coats-irritated-women.jpg\"]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Until next week! \u003ca href=\"https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/id1041117499\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Subscribe and rate us five stars in iTunes\u003c/a>! And find us on \u003ca href=\"https://www.facebook.com/KQED-Pop-336039936485067/timeline/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Facebook\u003c/a> and \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/kqedpop\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Twitter\u003c/a>!\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"We're obsessed with Sara Benincasa, and you will be too.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1549576507,"stats":{"hasAudio":true,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":17,"wordCount":721},"headData":{"title":"Sara Benincasa Talks Excellent Coats on Irritated Women, Mental Health and Sexy Ghosts | KQED","description":"We're obsessed with Sara Benincasa, and you will be too.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":""},"disqusIdentifier":"109238 https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/?p=109238","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/2019/02/07/sara-benincasa-talks-excellent-coats-on-irritated-women-mental-health-and-sexy-ghosts/","disqusTitle":"Sara Benincasa Talks Excellent Coats on Irritated Women, Mental Health and Sexy Ghosts","path":"/pop/109238/sara-benincasa-talks-excellent-coats-on-irritated-women-mental-health-and-sexy-ghosts","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>\u003ci>This week, \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/pop/category/the-cooler\">The Cooler\u003c/a> is joined by a quadruple (or is it quintuple?) threat, \u003ca href=\"https://www.sarabenincasa.com/home\">Sara Benincasa\u003c/a>! She's a writer, comedian, podcaster, viral Instagram sensation and a real artist with a day job. We're obsessed, and you will be too.\u003c/i>\u003c/p>\n\u003ch3>Interview Highlights\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>On what inspired her \u003cem>Excellent Coats on Irritated Women\u003c/em> Instagram:\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/pop/108124/instagrams-excellent-coats-on-irritated-women-is-inspiring-as-hell\">\u003cem>Excellent Coats on Irritated Women\u003c/em>\u003c/a> was inspired by the Bay Area's own Speaker Nancy Pelosi... I saw that coat [in this \u003ca href=\"https://pixel.nymag.com/imgs/fashion/daily/2018/12/12/12-nancy-pelosi-sunglasses.w330.h412.jpg\">now-infamous post-Oval-Office-meeting photo\u003c/a>] and tweeted something like, \"Oh, what a great day for excellent coats on irritated women!\" and a few people said that should be a thing, so I made it an Instagram account celebrating different excellent coats on different irritated women.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>On why the Instagram is way more than a fashion account:\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I purposely put up images of women activists who are smiling because, to me, the account is about celebrating women who share their righteous rage or anger in public and do good works as a result, but that doesn't mean that they're in a bad mood all the time. A lot of times it seems to me that they're taking a great deal of joy in the energy that they're putting into a cause... It's nice to spotlight women who are having a good time while not being afraid to be considered unpleasant.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It's also a chance for me to highlight causes that I care about. As we're speaking, we're in the week after the polar vortex. I was able to highlight some non-profits that provide coats for people in cold areas around the country, and that was really cool. It's more than just a fashion account for sure. It's a spoonful of sugar helps the sociopolitical medicine go down, so to speak.\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"instagramLink","attributes":{"named":{"instagramId":"BrR1weXBhG-"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>\u003cstrong>On turning being agoraphobic into being agorafabulous:\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Looking back at the times when I've been in crisis with agoraphobia, what sustained me was hearing stories from people who had gotten through it because that gave me the belief that it was possible.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>You really have to enjoy and savor the good times, [like earlier today] I was driving... and I was annoyed that the sun was in my face, but then I was really happy that I had remembered my sunglasses and that there was a delightful Ariana Grande song on the radio station. You just got to take pleasure in little things and little moments. That in and of itself can be fabulous...\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Now that I have a bit more wisdom with time, I can accept that [my agoraphobia or panic attacks] may still show up and that's not a personal failing. I can just enjoy the good times while they're here and do my best to minimize those tough breakthrough moments.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>On why she wouldn't mind being seduced by the ghost of landscape architect and bipolar genius Frederick Law Olmsted:\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I was recently on a date with a gentleman caller in Central Park and I was gazing around and possibly ranting at length about the genius of Frederick Law Olmsted, who was an incredible, really brilliant individual... He became quite a strong abolitionist after \u003cem>The New York Times\u003c/em> sent him into the antebellum South to go undercover and interview plantation owners and talk to slaves and document what he saw down there. During the Civil War, he set up floating hospitals and ships [for the Union].\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Listen, the man was awesome. I could talk about him forever. If Frederick Law Olmsted's ghost humped my leg or gave me a valentine or really anything, I would marry him. I don't know how it would work, but it would be pretty great.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>And there's a lot more where that came from! Listen to hear all about it:\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"audio","attributes":{"named":{"src":"https://www.kqed.org/.stream/anon/radio/thecooler/2019/02/SaraBenincasa.mp3","title":"Excellent Coats on Irritated Women (with Sara Benincasa)","program":"The Cooler","image":"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2019/02/coats-irritated-women.jpg","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Until next week! \u003ca href=\"https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/id1041117499\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Subscribe and rate us five stars in iTunes\u003c/a>! And find us on \u003ca href=\"https://www.facebook.com/KQED-Pop-336039936485067/timeline/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Facebook\u003c/a> and \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/kqedpop\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Twitter\u003c/a>!\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/pop/109238/sara-benincasa-talks-excellent-coats-on-irritated-women-mental-health-and-sexy-ghosts","authors":["27"],"categories":["pop_2696","pop_2793"],"tags":["pop_3341","pop_197","pop_643"],"featImg":"pop_109244","label":"pop"},"pop_107062":{"type":"posts","id":"pop_107062","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"pop","id":"107062","score":null,"sort":[1541444326000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"abbi-jacobson-is-traveling-far-beyond-broad-city-and-fast","title":"Abbi Jacobson is Traveling Far Beyond 'Broad City'—And Fast","publishDate":1541444326,"format":"standard","headTitle":"KQED Pop | KQED Arts","labelTerm":{"site":"pop"},"content":"\u003cp>[contextly_sidebar id=\"CouARo6FKgnapyZqpeqMp8aWS2OAYigh\"]Being a successful comedic actor in America comes with some very specific pitfalls. The first is the pressure to be \"on\" all the time in order to please fans. The second is the crushing invisibility that comes when people can't separate you from your on-screen character. The third is the difficult challenge of finding a means to show the world what else you're capable of without killing your own career.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It\u003cem> has\u003c/em> been done before. At the peak of his movie stardom, Jim Carrey made a conscious decision to take on more serious, meaningful roles to prove that he wasn't a human cartoon. In 2004, Dave Chapelle turned down $50 million and walked away from \u003cem>Chapelle’s Show\u003c/em> at its peak, because he “had a crisis of conscience and stood up for his integrity as an artist.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And on Saturday night, speaking in front of a sold out Nourse Theater, Abbi Jacobson was taking clear steps away from the character that has so thoroughly defined her life thus far. Since it launched on Comedy Central four and a half years ago, \u003cem>Broad City\u003c/em> has had a major impact on pop culture and what everyday feminism looks like. As she entered the stage, Jacobson was greeted by cries of \"Yas kween!\", but the evening ultimately had more to do with drawing a line between Abbi Abrams of \u003cem>Broad City\u003c/em> and the real-life Abbi who created her.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_107072\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 450px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-107072\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2018/11/GettyImages-1007402664-800x561.jpg\" alt=\"Abbi Jacobson during Netflix TCA 2018, July 2018 in Beverly Hills, California.\" width=\"450\" height=\"315\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2018/11/GettyImages-1007402664-800x561.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2018/11/GettyImages-1007402664-160x112.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2018/11/GettyImages-1007402664-768x538.jpg 768w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2018/11/GettyImages-1007402664-1020x715.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2018/11/GettyImages-1007402664-1200x841.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2018/11/GettyImages-1007402664-1920x1345.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2018/11/GettyImages-1007402664-1180x827.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2018/11/GettyImages-1007402664-960x673.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2018/11/GettyImages-1007402664-240x168.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2018/11/GettyImages-1007402664-375x263.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2018/11/GettyImages-1007402664-520x364.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 450px) 100vw, 450px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Abbi Jacobson during Netflix TCA 2018, July 2018 in Beverly Hills, California. \u003ccite>(Matt Winkelmeyer/Getty Images for Netflix)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Jacobson's appearance, in conversation with her close friend \u003ca href=\"https://www.imdb.com/name/nm3639013/?ref_=tt_cl_t4\">D'arcy Carden \u003c/a>(Janet from \u003cem>The Good Place\u003c/em>!) was in support of Jacobson's first collection of personal essays, \u003ca href=\"https://www.amazon.co.uk/Might-Regret-This-Drawings-Vulnerabilities/dp/0349010862/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1541357924&sr=8-1&keywords=i+might+regret+this+abbi+jacobson\">\u003cem>I Might Regret This\u003c/em>\u003c/a>. The book is the result of Jacobson trying to figure out a way to deal with the most painful break up of her life, which also happened to be her first with a woman. \"Being out of control\u003cem> in\u003c/em> love is glorious,\" she writes in a chapter titled \"Heartbreak City.\" \"It's the closest thing we have to magic. But being out of control in heartbreak...? I wouldn't wish that upon anyone. It's unnerving, it's manic, it's hopeless.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At a loss as to how she could heal, Jacobson got in her car and decided to spend three weeks driving from New York City to Los Angeles to clear her head, occupy herself with a new project and try and figure out what went wrong. On Saturday, she told the Nourse it was one of the most terrifying things she's ever done, \"but now that scariness is like my flashlight for what I want to do next. The scariness is good.\" Her words echo something Dave Chapelle told students at Allen University earlier this year: \"It's okay to be afraid, because you can't be brave or courageous without fear.\" Carden got emotional about the importance of her friend's trip. \"It was good for you,\" she said. \"When you left, you were a shell, and at the end, my friend was back.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Jacobson gave us the first major sign there was more to her than \u003cem>Broad City \u003c/em>earlier this year, with Netflix drama, \u003ca href=\"https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6142496/?ref_=nv_sr_1\">6\u003cem> Balloons\u003c/em>\u003c/a>, a harrowing, unflinching story about the sister of a heroin addict, struggling to get her brother (Dave Franco) to rehab. It was the first time one of her side projects had strayed so far from the tone and aesthetics of \u003cem>Broad City\u003c/em>. (Jacobson also voices Bean in \u003ca href=\"https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5363918/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_3\">\u003cem>Disenchantment\u003c/em>\u003c/a> and Emily in \u003ca href=\"https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3398228/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_2\">\u003cem>BoJack Horseman,\u003c/em>\u003c/a> and has published two coloring books—\u003ca href=\"https://www.amazon.co.uk/Color-this-Book-York-City/dp/1452117330/\">\u003cem>Color This Book: New York\u003c/em>\u003c/a> and \u003ca href=\"https://www.amazon.co.uk/Color-this-Book-San-Francisco/dp/1452117349/\">\u003cem>San Francisco—\u003c/em>\u003c/a>as well as a collection of illustrations, \u003ca href=\"https://www.amazon.co.uk/Carry-This-Book-Abbi-Jacobson/dp/0735221596/\">\u003cem>Carry This Book.\u003c/em>\u003c/a>)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-107075 alignright\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2018/11/51Mmjft419L._SX329_BO1204203200_.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"331\" height=\"499\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2018/11/51Mmjft419L._SX329_BO1204203200_.jpg 331w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2018/11/51Mmjft419L._SX329_BO1204203200_-160x241.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2018/11/51Mmjft419L._SX329_BO1204203200_-240x362.jpg 240w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 331px) 100vw, 331px\">While the roots of \u003cem>I Might Regret This\u003c/em> are in misery, the content is whimsical and contemplative, and yes, often very funny. Which is also an accurate way to describe what went down at the Nourse on Saturday. The book, Carden told her friend onstage, \"is like living in your brain and your heart.\" Jacobson herself quipped that making it was more akin to an ailing pet leaving home to \"die in the woods.\" Still, she says of the road trip, \"I felt completely free of everything. I'd never really been on a trip where I felt that way. I would definitely do it again.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In a \u003ca href=\"https://www.newyorker.com/culture/cultural-comment/the-big-funny-tragic-life-of-chris-farley\">documentary about Chris Farley\u003c/a>'s life, Bob Odenkirk said something applicable to this particular moment in Abbi Jacobson's. \"You can't walk around being funny all the time,\" Odenkirk commented. \"You have to be yourself sometimes, and you have to be alone sometimes.\" In taking that brave step—and taking it to very literal heights with her travels—Abbi Jacobson has, after focusing on it for 10 years, finally grown beyond the confines of \u003cem>Broad City\u003c/em> (awesome though the show still is).\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Jacobson is in no way distancing herself from her long-time writing partner, Ilana Glazer. (\"It's my relationship with Ilana that I cherish most,\" she writes.) Nor are they ending the show because it's bad. (\"I just don't like it when shows go past what they should,\" she told the Nourse.) And though \u003cem>I Might Regret This\u003c/em> is bound to propel her in a brand new—potentially more mature—direction, the work within the book is plain about where Jacobson is in life, and the fact that she knows she still has a lot to learn.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It's okay to learn and to get better and to know you're still not quite there,\" Jacobson writes in a chapter titled \"All The Incredible Things I Did Not Do.\" \"It's okay to be nervous and excited at the same time, to be unsure of what's ahead. It's okay to just go and try and to feel whatever you have to feel and to follow your gut. It's okay,\" she concludes, \"because that's all you really have.\"\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Abbi Jacobson's new book, and her appearance at the Nourse Theater over the weekend, prove just how broad her career can and will be.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1541444385,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":12,"wordCount":1018},"headData":{"title":"Abbi Jacobson is Traveling Far Beyond 'Broad City'—And Fast | KQED","description":"Abbi Jacobson's new book, and her appearance at the Nourse Theater over the weekend, prove just how broad her career can and will be.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":""},"disqusIdentifier":"107062 https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/?p=107062","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/2018/11/05/abbi-jacobson-is-traveling-far-beyond-broad-city-and-fast/","disqusTitle":"Abbi Jacobson is Traveling Far Beyond 'Broad City'—And Fast","path":"/pop/107062/abbi-jacobson-is-traveling-far-beyond-broad-city-and-fast","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003cp>Being a successful comedic actor in America comes with some very specific pitfalls. The first is the pressure to be \"on\" all the time in order to please fans. The second is the crushing invisibility that comes when people can't separate you from your on-screen character. The third is the difficult challenge of finding a means to show the world what else you're capable of without killing your own career.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It\u003cem> has\u003c/em> been done before. At the peak of his movie stardom, Jim Carrey made a conscious decision to take on more serious, meaningful roles to prove that he wasn't a human cartoon. In 2004, Dave Chapelle turned down $50 million and walked away from \u003cem>Chapelle’s Show\u003c/em> at its peak, because he “had a crisis of conscience and stood up for his integrity as an artist.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And on Saturday night, speaking in front of a sold out Nourse Theater, Abbi Jacobson was taking clear steps away from the character that has so thoroughly defined her life thus far. Since it launched on Comedy Central four and a half years ago, \u003cem>Broad City\u003c/em> has had a major impact on pop culture and what everyday feminism looks like. As she entered the stage, Jacobson was greeted by cries of \"Yas kween!\", but the evening ultimately had more to do with drawing a line between Abbi Abrams of \u003cem>Broad City\u003c/em> and the real-life Abbi who created her.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_107072\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\" style=\"max-width: 450px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-107072\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2018/11/GettyImages-1007402664-800x561.jpg\" alt=\"Abbi Jacobson during Netflix TCA 2018, July 2018 in Beverly Hills, California.\" width=\"450\" height=\"315\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2018/11/GettyImages-1007402664-800x561.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2018/11/GettyImages-1007402664-160x112.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2018/11/GettyImages-1007402664-768x538.jpg 768w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2018/11/GettyImages-1007402664-1020x715.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2018/11/GettyImages-1007402664-1200x841.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2018/11/GettyImages-1007402664-1920x1345.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2018/11/GettyImages-1007402664-1180x827.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2018/11/GettyImages-1007402664-960x673.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2018/11/GettyImages-1007402664-240x168.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2018/11/GettyImages-1007402664-375x263.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2018/11/GettyImages-1007402664-520x364.jpg 520w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 450px) 100vw, 450px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Abbi Jacobson during Netflix TCA 2018, July 2018 in Beverly Hills, California. \u003ccite>(Matt Winkelmeyer/Getty Images for Netflix)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>Jacobson's appearance, in conversation with her close friend \u003ca href=\"https://www.imdb.com/name/nm3639013/?ref_=tt_cl_t4\">D'arcy Carden \u003c/a>(Janet from \u003cem>The Good Place\u003c/em>!) was in support of Jacobson's first collection of personal essays, \u003ca href=\"https://www.amazon.co.uk/Might-Regret-This-Drawings-Vulnerabilities/dp/0349010862/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1541357924&sr=8-1&keywords=i+might+regret+this+abbi+jacobson\">\u003cem>I Might Regret This\u003c/em>\u003c/a>. The book is the result of Jacobson trying to figure out a way to deal with the most painful break up of her life, which also happened to be her first with a woman. \"Being out of control\u003cem> in\u003c/em> love is glorious,\" she writes in a chapter titled \"Heartbreak City.\" \"It's the closest thing we have to magic. But being out of control in heartbreak...? I wouldn't wish that upon anyone. It's unnerving, it's manic, it's hopeless.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At a loss as to how she could heal, Jacobson got in her car and decided to spend three weeks driving from New York City to Los Angeles to clear her head, occupy herself with a new project and try and figure out what went wrong. On Saturday, she told the Nourse it was one of the most terrifying things she's ever done, \"but now that scariness is like my flashlight for what I want to do next. The scariness is good.\" Her words echo something Dave Chapelle told students at Allen University earlier this year: \"It's okay to be afraid, because you can't be brave or courageous without fear.\" Carden got emotional about the importance of her friend's trip. \"It was good for you,\" she said. \"When you left, you were a shell, and at the end, my friend was back.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Jacobson gave us the first major sign there was more to her than \u003cem>Broad City \u003c/em>earlier this year, with Netflix drama, \u003ca href=\"https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6142496/?ref_=nv_sr_1\">6\u003cem> Balloons\u003c/em>\u003c/a>, a harrowing, unflinching story about the sister of a heroin addict, struggling to get her brother (Dave Franco) to rehab. It was the first time one of her side projects had strayed so far from the tone and aesthetics of \u003cem>Broad City\u003c/em>. (Jacobson also voices Bean in \u003ca href=\"https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5363918/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_3\">\u003cem>Disenchantment\u003c/em>\u003c/a> and Emily in \u003ca href=\"https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3398228/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_2\">\u003cem>BoJack Horseman,\u003c/em>\u003c/a> and has published two coloring books—\u003ca href=\"https://www.amazon.co.uk/Color-this-Book-York-City/dp/1452117330/\">\u003cem>Color This Book: New York\u003c/em>\u003c/a> and \u003ca href=\"https://www.amazon.co.uk/Color-this-Book-San-Francisco/dp/1452117349/\">\u003cem>San Francisco—\u003c/em>\u003c/a>as well as a collection of illustrations, \u003ca href=\"https://www.amazon.co.uk/Carry-This-Book-Abbi-Jacobson/dp/0735221596/\">\u003cem>Carry This Book.\u003c/em>\u003c/a>)\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-107075 alignright\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2018/11/51Mmjft419L._SX329_BO1204203200_.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"331\" height=\"499\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2018/11/51Mmjft419L._SX329_BO1204203200_.jpg 331w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2018/11/51Mmjft419L._SX329_BO1204203200_-160x241.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2018/11/51Mmjft419L._SX329_BO1204203200_-240x362.jpg 240w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 331px) 100vw, 331px\">While the roots of \u003cem>I Might Regret This\u003c/em> are in misery, the content is whimsical and contemplative, and yes, often very funny. Which is also an accurate way to describe what went down at the Nourse on Saturday. The book, Carden told her friend onstage, \"is like living in your brain and your heart.\" Jacobson herself quipped that making it was more akin to an ailing pet leaving home to \"die in the woods.\" Still, she says of the road trip, \"I felt completely free of everything. I'd never really been on a trip where I felt that way. I would definitely do it again.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In a \u003ca href=\"https://www.newyorker.com/culture/cultural-comment/the-big-funny-tragic-life-of-chris-farley\">documentary about Chris Farley\u003c/a>'s life, Bob Odenkirk said something applicable to this particular moment in Abbi Jacobson's. \"You can't walk around being funny all the time,\" Odenkirk commented. \"You have to be yourself sometimes, and you have to be alone sometimes.\" In taking that brave step—and taking it to very literal heights with her travels—Abbi Jacobson has, after focusing on it for 10 years, finally grown beyond the confines of \u003cem>Broad City\u003c/em> (awesome though the show still is).\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Jacobson is in no way distancing herself from her long-time writing partner, Ilana Glazer. (\"It's my relationship with Ilana that I cherish most,\" she writes.) Nor are they ending the show because it's bad. (\"I just don't like it when shows go past what they should,\" she told the Nourse.) And though \u003cem>I Might Regret This\u003c/em> is bound to propel her in a brand new—potentially more mature—direction, the work within the book is plain about where Jacobson is in life, and the fact that she knows she still has a lot to learn.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It's okay to learn and to get better and to know you're still not quite there,\" Jacobson writes in a chapter titled \"All The Incredible Things I Did Not Do.\" \"It's okay to be nervous and excited at the same time, to be unsure of what's ahead. It's okay to just go and try and to feel whatever you have to feel and to follow your gut. It's okay,\" she concludes, \"because that's all you really have.\"\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/pop/107062/abbi-jacobson-is-traveling-far-beyond-broad-city-and-fast","authors":["11242"],"categories":["pop_1548","pop_2696"],"tags":["pop_1509","pop_1507"],"featImg":"pop_107065","label":"pop"}},"programsReducer":{"possible":{"id":"possible","title":"Possible","info":"Possible is hosted by entrepreneur Reid Hoffman and writer Aria Finger. Together in Possible, Hoffman and Finger lead enlightening discussions about building a brighter collective future. The show features interviews with visionary guests like Trevor Noah, Sam Altman and Janette Sadik-Khan. Possible paints an optimistic portrait of the world we can create through science, policy, business, art and our shared humanity. It asks: What if everything goes right for once? How can we get there? 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