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	<title>Comments on: Vaccines: One Small Risk for a Child, One Giant Benefit for Mankind</title>
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		<title>By: Quest Topic in the News: The Autism-Vaccine Connection &#124; QUEST Community Science Blog - KQED</title>
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		<dc:creator>Quest Topic in the News: The Autism-Vaccine Connection &#124; QUEST Community Science Blog - KQED</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 18:59:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] autism, a subject we covered in last year&#039;s TV story, Autism: Searching for Causes, and several blog posts. The claim-–that there might be a link between the immunizations children receive and the onset [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] autism, a subject we covered in last year's TV story, Autism: Searching for Causes, and several blog posts. The claim-–that there might be a link between the immunizations children receive and the onset [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 13:52:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about immunosuppressed children who may contract measles or mumps from a child who has recently recieved the live MMR jab thanks to viral shedding. see below link for a prome example.
Who should they sue? the child or the vaccine maker or the Government?

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&amp;_udi=B6TD4-4HC15TW-4&amp;_user=10&amp;_rdoc=1&amp;_fmt=&amp;_orig=search&amp;_sort=d&amp;view=c&amp;_acct=C000050221&amp;_version=1&amp;_urlVersion=0&amp;_userid=10&amp;md5=bf4b60cd1c749354d06c9de57fb21a51</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about immunosuppressed children who may contract measles or mumps from a child who has recently recieved the live MMR jab thanks to viral shedding. see below link for a prome example.<br />
Who should they sue? the child or the vaccine maker or the Government?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&amp;_udi=B6TD4-4HC15TW-4&amp;_user=10&amp;_rdoc=1&amp;_fmt=&amp;_orig=search&amp;_sort=d&amp;view=c&amp;_acct=C000050221&amp;_version=1&amp;_urlVersion=0&amp;_userid=10&amp;md5=bf4b60cd1c749354d06c9de57fb21a51" rel="nofollow">http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&amp;_udi=B6TD4-4HC15TW-4&amp;_user=10&amp;_rdoc=1&amp;_fmt=&amp;_orig=search&amp;_sort=d&amp;view=c&amp;_acct=C000050221&amp;_version=1&amp;_urlVersion=0&amp;_userid=10&amp;md5=bf4b60cd1c749354d06c9de57fb21a51</a></p>
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		<title>By: Barry Starr</title>
		<link>http://www.kqed.org/quest/blog/2008/06/06/vaccines-one-small-risk-for-a-child-one-giant-benefit-for-mankind/comment-page-1/#comment-62070</link>
		<dc:creator>Barry Starr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 16:07:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fact that thimerosal can be neurotoxic at certain levels is undisputed.  The question is whether or not the small amounts of thimerosal contained in vaccines cause autism.  Since removal of thimerosal from vaccines in 2001, autism rates have continued to increase.  One would expect them to decrease if thimerosal was responsible for the increase in autism.

I wish thimerosal had been the culprit because then we would know the environmental trigger that can cause autism in certain people.  Since it most likely is not the reason why autism rates have increased, we need to find out what the triggers actually are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fact that thimerosal can be neurotoxic at certain levels is undisputed.  The question is whether or not the small amounts of thimerosal contained in vaccines cause autism.  Since removal of thimerosal from vaccines in 2001, autism rates have continued to increase.  One would expect them to decrease if thimerosal was responsible for the increase in autism.</p>
<p>I wish thimerosal had been the culprit because then we would know the environmental trigger that can cause autism in certain people.  Since it most likely is not the reason why autism rates have increased, we need to find out what the triggers actually are.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 04:53:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your information is wrong. You are doing a true disservice to the people you serve. Learn the facts before being part of one of the worst cases medical malpractice in history. As you most likely don&#039;t know it too 70 years to get Lead out of paint and gasoline due to faulty opinions like yours and corporate agendas. People do bad science these days for big paychecks, perhaps you are one of those people. There is a major lawsuit pending and over 1,000 peer reviewed journal articles clearly demonstrating the neurotoxicity of Thimerosal. The risk by 1999 was 1 in 250 children coming down with autistic symptoms. You mean well in your defense of vaccinations, I too think they are critical for a healthy society, but you are letting your desire for vaccines blur your judgment about unscrupulous corporations and cdc compliance. DO YOUR RESEARCH FOR REAL! Don’t just stop at one study, one article, look at the preponderance of peer reviewed studies dating back to the 1950s about the toxicity of thimerosal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your information is wrong. You are doing a true disservice to the people you serve. Learn the facts before being part of one of the worst cases medical malpractice in history. As you most likely don't know it too 70 years to get Lead out of paint and gasoline due to faulty opinions like yours and corporate agendas. People do bad science these days for big paychecks, perhaps you are one of those people. There is a major lawsuit pending and over 1,000 peer reviewed journal articles clearly demonstrating the neurotoxicity of Thimerosal. The risk by 1999 was 1 in 250 children coming down with autistic symptoms. You mean well in your defense of vaccinations, I too think they are critical for a healthy society, but you are letting your desire for vaccines blur your judgment about unscrupulous corporations and cdc compliance. DO YOUR RESEARCH FOR REAL! Don’t just stop at one study, one article, look at the preponderance of peer reviewed studies dating back to the 1950s about the toxicity of thimerosal.</p>
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		<title>By: Concerned Mommy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Concerned Mommy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 20:42:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;One Small Risk for a Child, One Giant Benefit for Mankind&quot; So you are saying that you don&#039;t care about the children/families who have been harmed by vaccines as long as you can go along through life thinking you are safe from sickness, because you refuse to look at the real facts of how many came down with what, &amp; instead are listening to the people who are making loads money off of every vaccine that they hand out...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"One Small Risk for a Child, One Giant Benefit for Mankind" So you are saying that you don't care about the children/families who have been harmed by vaccines as long as you can go along through life thinking you are safe from sickness, because you refuse to look at the real facts of how many came down with what, &amp; instead are listening to the people who are making loads money off of every vaccine that they hand out&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: The Choice to Vaccinate &#124; Stay September</title>
		<link>http://www.kqed.org/quest/blog/2008/06/06/vaccines-one-small-risk-for-a-child-one-giant-benefit-for-mankind/comment-page-1/#comment-58330</link>
		<dc:creator>The Choice to Vaccinate &#124; Stay September</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 03:57:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] that sometimes they believe it is. And even if they didn&#8217;t believe that, they at least will consider a child who has died from an adverse reaction to a vaccine a mere casualty in the war again... Tragic, but necessary. Sure, tell that to mourning parents. And we&#8217;ll see if you&#8217;re [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] that sometimes they believe it is. And even if they didn't believe that, they at least will consider a child who has died from an adverse reaction to a vaccine a mere casualty in the war again&#8230; Tragic, but necessary. Sure, tell that to mourning parents. And we'll see if you're [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Barry Starr</title>
		<link>http://www.kqed.org/quest/blog/2008/06/06/vaccines-one-small-risk-for-a-child-one-giant-benefit-for-mankind/comment-page-1/#comment-58083</link>
		<dc:creator>Barry Starr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 15:22:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are definitely right that 100% vaccination isn&#039;t required.  Some people can&#039;t be vaccinated and for some the vaccination doesn&#039;t take.  I wonder what the real number is?  I bet you could get some idea from looking at countries where the introduction of vaccines has been more gradual.  Or from countries where a percentage of the population has opted out.

It does raise another ethical issue though.  Let&#039;s say the 90% number is right.  Who gets to be the 10% that gets totally risk free benefits at the expense of the other 90%?  Do you figure who opts out by lottery?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are definitely right that 100% vaccination isn't required.  Some people can't be vaccinated and for some the vaccination doesn't take.  I wonder what the real number is?  I bet you could get some idea from looking at countries where the introduction of vaccines has been more gradual.  Or from countries where a percentage of the population has opted out.</p>
<p>It does raise another ethical issue though.  Let's say the 90% number is right.  Who gets to be the 10% that gets totally risk free benefits at the expense of the other 90%?  Do you figure who opts out by lottery?</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Hoyt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Hoyt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 23:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are right, correlation does not imply causation. The argument of vaccination causing autism is tenuous at best. The fact is, the diagnosis of autism in the last two decades has changed dramatically. The definition and recognition of autism is now open to more symptoms than ever before.

As far as requiring 100% of all children to be vaccinated, who knows. It could be that if at least 90% are vaccinated for disease XYZ then all 100% are safe. Epidemiological studies on what percentages are needed could shade light on this. Until that is done though, the benefits of vaccination to the child and community still outweigh the risks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are right, correlation does not imply causation. The argument of vaccination causing autism is tenuous at best. The fact is, the diagnosis of autism in the last two decades has changed dramatically. The definition and recognition of autism is now open to more symptoms than ever before.</p>
<p>As far as requiring 100% of all children to be vaccinated, who knows. It could be that if at least 90% are vaccinated for disease XYZ then all 100% are safe. Epidemiological studies on what percentages are needed could shade light on this. Until that is done though, the benefits of vaccination to the child and community still outweigh the risks.</p>
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		<title>By: Barry Starr</title>
		<link>http://www.kqed.org/quest/blog/2008/06/06/vaccines-one-small-risk-for-a-child-one-giant-benefit-for-mankind/comment-page-1/#comment-58061</link>
		<dc:creator>Barry Starr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 21:50:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was hoping someone from the vast majority of people who vaccinate their kids would reply but I guess I&#039;ll have to.

I would urge folks to look at http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vac-gen/6mishome.htm.  This is very well writeen and scientifically accurate.  There is no reason for the CDC to fudge the data or hide facts.

Even if a disease was on the decline before a vaccine was introduced, the vaccine eliminates it more quickly.  And prevents new outbreaks from happening.  How many extra polio victims would justify not using vaccines?  

My suing idea was just trying to come up with some way for people who do not do what is in the common good to be held accountable.  I am open to other suggestions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was hoping someone from the vast majority of people who vaccinate their kids would reply but I guess I'll have to.</p>
<p>I would urge folks to look at <a href="http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vac-gen/6mishome.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vac-gen/6mishome.htm</a>.  This is very well writeen and scientifically accurate.  There is no reason for the CDC to fudge the data or hide facts.</p>
<p>Even if a disease was on the decline before a vaccine was introduced, the vaccine eliminates it more quickly.  And prevents new outbreaks from happening.  How many extra polio victims would justify not using vaccines?  </p>
<p>My suing idea was just trying to come up with some way for people who do not do what is in the common good to be held accountable.  I am open to other suggestions.</p>
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		<title>By: Zubair</title>
		<link>http://www.kqed.org/quest/blog/2008/06/06/vaccines-one-small-risk-for-a-child-one-giant-benefit-for-mankind/comment-page-1/#comment-57989</link>
		<dc:creator>Zubair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 06:09:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem with the medical establishment is just that, it is the establishment. And anyone working as part of that establishment is only looking at what the establishment has prescribed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with the medical establishment is just that, it is the establishment. And anyone working as part of that establishment is only looking at what the establishment has prescribed.</p>
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